Ex-Navy admiral: Revoke my security clearance

Posted by $ nickursis 6 years, 11 months ago to Government
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If anything confirms the deep state (which I think is what Ayn Rand was trying to warn us of), it is this, someone treading on their military service to appear offended because they want to keep their access so they can go on TV and be brilliant talking gasbags. Another corrupted senior officer. Ask yourself, why does ANYONE need a security clearance AFTER they leave the job? ALL security systems are founded on one basic principle: Need to know. How can someone who has left that position have a need to know? We ALWAYS terminated security clearances of people who left the submarine command precisely because of need to know, which no longer existed. The only reason anyone would WANT to keep one: access to secrets you can use to sell yourself, manipulate others and be a self important, pompous ass. Brennan is a traitor, Comey is one too. They abused their power, then set themselves up with their access to sell to the higest bidder. Brennan needed a high level security clearance so he could consult for CNN? Really? You think this is at all realistic?

If anything, this is concrete proof of what is going on, and how people get power and then abuse it for themselves, and will sell us out along the way. ALL clearances should be revoked immediately, if that person is not in the position for which it was granted. Common sense.


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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I never knew about it, but did wonder how all these "experts" stayed in touch with things the public is completely ignorant of. Now I know. Ridiculous, part of the deep state.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is the heart of the matter, the root cause for all this, and I believe it has been slowly and covertly growing the last 20 years or so, I do not recall it ever being done in the early 90's late 80's.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That I wholeheartedly agree with. What makes these SES pukes special? Who thinks it is ok to have a clearance when you are a retired civilian.

    That is the part people should be asking about, not revoking clearances, but why retired people have then at all!
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That may be true, in a way, as if you work for a contractor who has extended govt contracts that need a clearance, it is transparent to the end user, a lot of times, as you still have to periodically update your application. The need to know is supposed to be the trigger that says you need the clearance and access. Need to know drives access, and consequently, the clearance needed to get that access. I wouldn't be too hard on that, the point still is that NO ONE should have a clearance or access once they leave the position that required it. You can place a clearance on hold, and then reactivate it if needed with an SBI short form update. In this case it seems they have built a system of keeping your clearance AND access, even when gone. One has to wonder how Comey got fired and his clearance and access was not revoked same day. Deep state in action. There are probably thousands of these creatures wandering around. Part of the swamp, access and secrets for sale....
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That all sounds the same as ours in civilian DoD contracting. I understand the difference. However, ProfChuck is saying you essentially have clearance for live, and it is all about “Need to Know”. This is incorrect.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thats the way it would seem. The obvious so often escapes the notice. Ayn Rand said it: “The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see."
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed, which I believe is not even needing an EO, since that was the rules when I was doing this, just enforce the rules, unless they got changed, but any change from that would be insane and reason to suspect someone using the system.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Clearance is different from access. I had perople whose clearances expired on board, so every offcrew I had to instigate requests for reneweal. Used to be SCI/TS was every 5 years and took an SBI (Special Background Investigation) which was the whole shebang, visits interviews, etc. Secret (which was the vast majority) was 10 years and required a BI (Background Investigation), which was just a records check. Maybe they shortened the intervals for SBI, but they took forever, sometimes over a year to get done. You could provide interim access, but in an inspection, I had to justify each one and why, which sucked, as I got no recognition for the huge amount of work I had to do.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Precisely right. I have no idea why these SES weenies think they are something special when they end their role.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I do not think you are correct here. Your clearance will expire after two years, if it is not reactivated. If you want a clearance again, you must reapply from scratch.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 6 years, 11 months ago
    nickursis sez
    ALL clearances should be revoked immediately, if that person is not in the position for which it was granted. Common sense.
    Otherwise, if you need to keep your clearance so that you can comment with "authority" on tv or wherever you become a VIOLATER of your PRIVLEGE to have access to secure information. IT IS SIMPLE!!
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  • Posted by GaryL 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly! Brennan is guilty for monetizing his security clearance. Most of these nitwits were rode out of DC on a rail and that is where all their clearances should have ended. Hillary still has hers and so many others do as well. DJT should slam the brakes on this BS but not on an individual basis and only by an EO saying your clearance ends when you leave unless otherwise specified.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is indeed part of this whole mess, while Brennan and Admiral duffas may have had a clearance, that should NOT have automatically granted access, if they did not have a need to know, and brennan being able to spout aboutthings on CNN (where he was a licensed gasbag), does NOT constitute a need to know. This goes to the root of the evil lose in our government, they have manipulated everything to be a money maker, and the Clinton's, we actually owe them a thanks, because only their excesses led to enough angst to start the Q movement and discover all the really dirty stuff that is going to come out.
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  • Posted by GaryL 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That actually touches across all entities where highly secretive info is only known to top officials.
    My late grandfather had TS clearance during and after WW 1 but I doubt he kept it all of his life but don't know for sure. It was listed as "Management Confidential" in my working career but not National Security.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh, nice, very nice, and while you will see the article below, you will NEVER see that tweet, except where ever you found it. Where did you see this gem? It needs to be proudly circulated.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 11 months ago
    And here we go, John Brennan, who is the patron saint of all these clowns, threatening a lawsuit to be able to keep a clearance he should not have, access he should not have and a herd of cronies using the same system to scam money and power (or serve a specific group by leaking information) supporting him. Obviously, he does not understand the term "discovery". Go ahead John Boy, sue, please sue.....


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/brennan-ge...
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  • Posted by starznbarz 6 years, 11 months ago
    Brennan pulled the credentials from Paronto and others that refused to go along with the Benghazi BS cover story, who would you all trust with sensitive info - Brennam & company, or any of those shooters? “My principles are greater than clearances too John, especially when you and the @CIA kool-aid drinkers punishes us for not going along with the Benghazi cover-up story in order to protect you, @HillaryClinton’s & @BarackObama’s failures. You put your politics before us,” he tweeted at Mr. Brennan" . - K.Paronto
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly, you retain the clearance but NOT the access, what turd head is saying is he wants both, even when no longer in that position, as well as Brennan, and all so they can have power and make money, not what clearances are for.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Brennan is playing his part as directed, the idiocy is that this is even a discussion point in the media at all, when it is clear that security regulations require termination of access when you no longer need to know. When he left, he lost the need to know. But not the need to have access to sell, use for blackmail, bribes, and income. Criminal.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly. You hit the nail on the head, it is "need to know", and need to know does not mean know to sell to the highest bidder.
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