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  • Posted by $ 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    That was what we were told in DC school as well, it was the Huffer exhaust. Supposedly there was a guy under the wing doing some kind of check on the Zuni unit, and his testing triggered what would have been safe under other circumstances.Really doesn't matter, the real lesson was in how bad fires can get, how hard to control and how easy it is to die in one.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I watched the Forestall training video for fire fighting school when I served in the USN. I agree his hot dogging likely didn't start the fire but I only said some Vietnam Vets I've run across say he did, among other things. Having never served on a Carrier I have no direct experience and differ to yours.
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  • Posted by Bobhummel 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    AJA, As a 20 year Navy fighter pilot, I am absolutely no fan of McCain, but the fire on the USS Forrestal was started by the hot exhaust from a "Huffer" (jet startng unit on a flight deck) blowing onto a pod of Zuni rockets loaded on an A-4 on the starboard side on the flight deck. The hot exhaust ignited the rocket motor and it fired across the flight deck and impacted another A-4 on the port side. Every Naval Aviator or NFO gets to watch this PLAT (pilot landing aide television system - see http://www.navy.mil/view_image.asp?id... video in "Flight Deck Fire Fighting School" a.k.a. black booger, singed eyebrow school. The official story is that Johnny was in one of the aircraft next to the one hit by the Zuni. Trying to get a "hard Light" on Pratt & Whitney J-52 is a pretty stupid thing to do, because it can break your jet. Not that Johnny boy had not done many stupid things in the past. He is after all a "Black Ace." He has destroyed 5 of his own aircraft. But a "wet start/hard light incident did not start the "Forrest Fire".
    Cheers
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  • Posted by term2 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump called mc Cain out for using guilt and sympathy to get power. That’s why mc Cain hates him
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  • Posted by term2 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    McCain’s game is to trade sympathy/guilt for political power. The reason he hates trump is that trump exposed his game for what is. I think a soldier who is captured IS a failed soldier, not a hero
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  • Posted by RevJay4 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    And doesn't seek the limelight at every opportunity. I've known a few, and they are very humble folks.
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  • Posted by RevJay4 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    When did McShame ever represent our country? It was always about him, nothing else. Come to think of it, how many of the critters in DC truly represent our country and the folks who elected them to office? Not many, if any, I'd say.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years ago
    This socialist talks about "duty", really! "Songbird", as the miliaray men called him, always put himself first. What about the other ignored duties, like to his wives, to his state, to Sarh Palin, to the truth? This man should have changed parties years ago, he is part of the swamp, and never cared about the USA. Too bad he still gets covered by the media at all.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 6 years ago
    McCain is an arrogant douche.

    One of by business buddies met McCain at a DC boat political event just a bid prior to the 2008 election. In pseudo-small talk he simply said he didn't understand one of McCain's positions. McCain simply unloaded on him, with statements like, "you just aren't listening" and "why don't you just go back and read...".

    Arrogant puke. Another above the law, just like Hillary.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Check out what is finally in the news about Sweden these days... people thought he was nuts for saying “Sweden - look what’s happening in Sweden” last summer. Now they are fighting off grenade attacks and IEDs by the Syrian “immigrants”.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 6 years ago
    Trump really doesn’t like McCain, and it’s deeper than just counter-punching McCain’s bullshit during the election when McCain basically said he was voting for Hillary. McCain ran for President - I’m very certain he came with hat-in-hand to Trump a few times for big cash. I’m thinking Trump just doesn’t like him to begin with.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    True. Maybe trump saw that mc Cain is a power hungry politician who uses guilt over his pow status to get power from people in the USA. So trumps comment exposed McCains little sympathy game and the reaction was true hatred- and the country’s interests be damned at that point. He didn’t want to admit his life has been built on guilt. After all, getting captured is areally a failure as a soldier, not an achievement to base one’s life on. He will go to his grave trying to destroy trump and the USA for electing trump. I do hope he retires quietly, but if he doesn’t retire that he dies quickly before more damage is fone
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  • Posted by $ 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    The video was so grainy and crappy, it was hard to tell. They had better TV in Havana at the time....
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  • Posted by $ 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    No, the real reason was Trump announcing he was a traitor during the campaign, which was crass, but the truth is never socially correct. Seeing what he has done in the last few years, he is a traitor, or a shape shifting alien took his body....
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  • Posted by $ 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    He is a proto-poltician, just like the proto molecule in the expanse....mean and useless to us, but will screw us all.
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