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California's Self-Inflicted Housing Disaster Couldn't Get Worse — Or Could It?

Posted by $ nickursis 5 years, 12 months ago to Government
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Proof that Dumbocraps and their Liberal Left policies are too destructive to allow to continue, and a warning to those (like me) that live in states (like Oregon) that are just a hair away from being in the same "one party state" situation. This quote describes the real hypocrisy of the the "government above all else" gang : "It's a war on the poor, disguised as a housing crisis."
SOURCE URL: https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/californias-self-inflicted-housing-disaster-couldnt-get-worse-or-could-it/


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 12 months ago
    A synonym for socialism should be suicide.
    Oh, and with the article, me dino really enjoyed that video box that revealed several dead wrong environmentally related predictions made by ooo-wee "scientists" over the years.
    It's quite certain such astute learned institutions of ooo-wee "science" still receive gobs and gobs of federal funding despite all of their provably disproven past idiotic PC tripe.
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    • Posted by $ Abaco 5 years, 12 months ago
      Yeah. I've lived in California almost all of my life. I've come to realize after 5 decades that the leftists are really all about control. They don't even try to look correct in their reasoning anymore. It's, "Housing costs too much. Here. Have some mandated PV panels that will increase the price of every house and not give you any sort of return on investment due to our cozy relationship with the public utilities commission." Or, "We must have a high-speed train. Here. We're building one from Bakersfield to Fresno." Or, "We must preserve the beauty of the coast. No, you're not allowed to take your kids there. Well, only in this area where you have to pay for parking and are limited to this tiny NIMBY stretch of sand." Or, (this is my latest favorite), "The California universal healthcare program will double the total State budget, triple your property tax, double your state income tax, quadruple sales tax, double gas tax. You're welcome. It's coming."
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      • Posted by Solver 5 years, 12 months ago
        Leftist are typically brash, unreasonable, illogical and lose arguments, yet strikingly effective at progressively winning by appealing to emotions.
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        • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago
          Of course, every argument is an emotion based one. It always calls out "unfair" or bigoted, or racist, or mean spirited. Rarely will you find one that is factual and logical, they dont get votes from the creatures they have created.
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago
      Here is another problem with all those synonyms, they all add up to a hammer on innovation. Anyone who wants to build a house and wants to finance anything with it, will need all those tickets, permits, fees ad approvals. So if you have an innovative idea, and want to test it, if you do NOT comply with their idea of "correct" or do not adhere to whatever rules the industry has bought through politicians, you are screwed. The whole system does NOTHING to encourage innovation and new ideas, it stifles and kills them. I believe that is by design. I see it as a monster the builders thought they bought and owned so only they could get the permissions needed, and it has now spun out of control and is biting them as much as everyone else. Corruption quickly becomes its own master.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 12 months ago
        Corrupt socialist behavior has nothing to do with rational thought.
        Why is me dino suddenly thinking of dogs who uselessly chase their tails? Surely, it's the smarter dogs who don't do that.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 12 months ago
    Actually the supply and demand originally created the high RE prices in CA. It appears that can also solve it if the out-migration increases. Sounds like Oregon may get some more workers. Portland is a lost cause. Infested with socialists top to bottom. They have followed the CA stupid model for 30+ years. (Of course, its the bankster cartel and the feds that have created the inflation for 105 years. Prior to 1913 there was very little inflation except in wartime in the States United.)
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    • Posted by DrZarkov99 5 years, 12 months ago
      Unfortunately, the demand that any new homes be solar powered, and a new layer of environmental regulations may make it impossible to keep up the supply of affordable homes. That will put a crimp in the supply that will keep house prices high, and maybe drive them higher. Already, families with six figure incomes can't buy homes in San Francisco.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 12 months ago
        And if they wake up and move to a place where they can afford a home, the lower demand will cut market values. The new solar restrictions will also lower demand and market values. It's probably not enough for non-millionaires though.
        I do see your point, DrZ. The additional cost will make the construction of new housing less profitable, so less affordable housing will be built.
        Buying housing in most of American big cities is a bad deal for buyers. It's only good for bankers, governments, lawyers, and RE agents, none of whom produce anything in that housing product, they just make it more costly for the buyers and steal from the sellers.
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        • Posted by DrZarkov99 5 years, 12 months ago
          Housing and cost of living is still reasonable in flyover country. Plenty of jobs available at reasonable wages. So many folks have been told that those places are full of ignorant, racist hicks. Maybe we shouldn't tell them the truth. Wouldn't want to get californicated.
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        • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago
          I will lay odds that there is, or will be soon, a caveat that any house sale, or renovation requires an installation as well. I wonder how much the solar lobby paid them for this boondoggle....
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  • Posted by Solver 5 years, 12 months ago
    So when is Kalifornia going to pass bills requiring all vehicles to be electric? And all farms be organic? And all workers be unconscious bias trained? And all education be liberal studies?
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago
      Uh, you are presenting shockingly realistic scenarios, I can easily see the electric car, organic farm ideas being imposed on the people with no problem. The workers are almost all already trained, and even their science studies are just a mask for liberal studies, so you are not far off the mark. I have to work with some of the Masters and Phd grads from some of Kalifornias best, and I will testify that this is indeed the truth, as their common sense and ability to apply knowledge and create new concepts and discoveries is minimal, but their political reliability is guaranteed..
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 5 years, 12 months ago
        Actually, Governor Brown announced a plan to ban all gasoline/diesel cars by 2040.Hopefully there are enough California voters that will wake up before the situation gets much worse. The Democrats have lost their supermajority in the state legislature, which should slow down some of the insanity.
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        • Posted by Solver 5 years, 12 months ago
          Maybe Hawaii will vote to ban volcanoes due to their significant contribution to global warming. Gota stop all that scalding lava from pouring into the ocean. The poor polar bears are losing their home!
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          • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago
            The gases emitted are a much bigger part of their so called "climate change" even when you give them the somewhat dubious scientific credit for their theories.
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  • Posted by jimslag 5 years, 12 months ago
    The Kalifornicators have already hit Colorado. So real estate has hit the big time here. The house I sold in 2008 for $158K is now going for $275K. New houses are $500K to well over a cool million. Rents for older apartments that used to go for 6-7 hundred are now over $1400 a month. If you have a family and need 3 bedrooms, you are looking at over 2 grand. Renting a house is usually over 3 grand. The pot laws have a lot to do with it but I am wondering who can afford it. I earn over $60K per year and cannot when you add in utilities and transportation, food and such. Then add in taxes, which keep going up and it is intolerable . Sure glad I bought land in Belize when it was cheap. I got 3 acres for about $10K an acre and now it is worth over $25K per. Buy a couple of cheap containers and weld them together, insulate the outside and enclose it for the heat, housing on the cheap. I still love this country but it is getting stupid and it all starts with the nanny government and politicians who think they need to do something with everybody else's money. Sorry for the rant but I just moved back to Colorado after 14 years and it has gotten Kali stupid.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 5 years, 12 months ago
    Hmmmm, I'm reminded of the liberal plan to create more affordable health care by taxing medical devices. How'd that work out?
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago
      I don't kniow but if you want stupid, follow Kommie Kate Brown (is she moonbeams sister?) and she slapped a tax on all health care providers, essentially a sales tax on their income. To fund free health care for illegals amongst other excuses....
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  • Posted by bsmith51 5 years, 12 months ago
    Around 1980 I wrote a letter to the editor of the San Diego Union that all government at all levels should be solely funded from the lottery, the theory being that the lottery was a tax on the stupidity of ticket purchasers. Government would then appropriately be sized according to the stupidity of the people.

    Fearing the obvious conflict of interest in promoting stupidity by funding public education , Californians found another way.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 5 years, 12 months ago
    That's not by far the worst issue with building houses in California, in the hardest-hit (highest tax and spend) counties, developer fees can hit $70,000 per house before a shovel goes into the dirt.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 5 years, 12 months ago
    All of my family has left. Almost all of my friends have left. All of my coworkers are buying property in other States and will leave soon. All of them. Once I wrap up this phase of my career I'm out.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 12 months ago
      And as that migration occurred Oregon, Washington, and Nevada have been lost to liberal urban majorities that migrated from CA hoping to escape their own stupidity. Migration doesn't correct stupidity, however, it only spreads it. Unlimited immigration from the latin south has added to the problem since those people have never experienced liberty, free markets, and the economic success that results. They can't know how impossible it is to have economic success without free markets and individual liberty. So they vote for their own enslavement by so-called liberals and big government in league with corrupt, uncompetitive big business.
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      • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago
        Correct. The Left Coast is called that for a reason, the whole coast is infected. It is pushing for a revolt of the people they keep thinking are their slaves and money cows.
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    • Posted by editormichael 5 years, 12 months ago
      www.freestatewest.com
      Land, lots of land, under starry skies above.
      And very small population.
      Relatively low prices.
      Come visit, at least.
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      • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago
        Thanks, not doing desert, and Intel has a Factory down there, at 120 in the summers, can't take that, bad enough here with Global Warming, er Climate CHange..er whatever they call it this week, we get 80 and 90's June to Sept. Just looking for something more remote where all I have to talk to is my goat, horses and dogs and cats, much better company than most people....
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        • Posted by editormichael 5 years, 11 months ago
          You're being intolerant, racist, and bigoted.
          This is HIGH desert. No 120 here.
          And we have plenty of goats, horses, dogs, cats, just not very many people.
          Our whole huge county has only 127,000 people.
          Also we get about 17-19 inches of rain a year.
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          • Posted by $ 5 years, 11 months ago
            High Desert, Low desert, Middle Desert, still has that word "desert" in it. And snakes, gila monsters, cactus...ugh. Sorry, I will lead the revolt on the Left Coast from a tree stand first....
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            • Posted by editormichael 5 years, 11 months ago
              When I lived in low desert Bullhead City, temps could and did reach 120. Yearly rainfall was maybe 7 inches.
              Here in the high desert, we right now still need covers on the bed at night.
              Our politicians are, sigh, politicians, but they aren't the total lunatics of, say, Oregon and California -- and the relatively sane people still outnumber the others, unlike California and Oregon.
              "News" papers, such as the People's Democratic Republic in Phoenix and the Red Star in Tucson, are as lousy and dishonest as, say, the L.A. Times and they work wonders to mis-lead and mis-inform the voters who then get suckered to vote against their own interests almost as badly as in Oregon and California, but here we relatively sane ones do stand a chance.
              I certainly wish you luck, wish you ... well, luck is not enough on the Left Coast.
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              • Posted by $ 5 years, 11 months ago
                That is so true..we do need luck...and the revolution.....Although I did just see an article that says that the damn Global Climate change went into reverse the last 2 years and it got COOLER! Who knows, maybe in a few years you will be cool, lush and green, and be able to sell property like hotcakes in the olden days....
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