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Welcome to the realities of Obamacare

Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 9 months ago to The Gulch: General
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My nephew is married and has one child. He works for Midas and they just had a meeting today to discuss their health care plan. The current plan cost him $45.00 a week and included all 3 with eye and dental and a $2,500.00 deductible. The new plan will be $84.00 a week, does not have eye and dental and carries a $5,000.00 deductible. I guess someone finally read the Affordable Care Act and found out what was in it.


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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Get off your high-horse."
    High-horse is an attitude of arrogance or contempt. Mine is an attitude of alacrity and optimism.
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  • Posted by Notperfect 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Rich, I agree, but remember what Biden said "this is a big F&*(ing deal". Where is the outrage over even just the thought of Hope and Change. Silence is what you hear except crickets chirping. And I am mad as hell.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The law should have been repealed based on that alone. Over and over he said you can keep your plan and keep your doctor. Where is the outrage over that?
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  • Posted by Notperfect 9 years, 9 months ago
    5 years ago I started with a Armed Secured Company. Insurance payments $140.00/mos. $250.00 deductible, vision, dental. Now the company is eating most of the payments which skyrocketed to $1078.00/mos. $6500.00 deductible, no vision, dental is still around somewhere. I still pay $140.00/mos. but come Oct. we are off the plan. Wife has a pension from Mi. Blue Cross and Blue Shield. $293/mos. vision, dental do not know the deductible. Oh and those little sacred words BO quoted you can keep your Dr. well my primary care Dr. quit and said if this is what you want to pay me " I do not think so". My specialist I see refuses the healthcare from my company. I applaud both.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    " I don’t have health insurance, and I’ve been pretty stubborn about that my entire life."
    Is it a)because you have enough wealth to self-insure, b) because you would refuse expensive treatments you couldn't afford, or c) some other reason.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Right now his wife has decided to work part time. It's a fast food job but it will help. They just bought a house and he learned about the insurance change the day after moving in. She had been thinking about it so this just made up their minds. Sounds like they are okay for now.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah...but would you accept it? I would have a hard time doing so, but if I had a family to support and few other job prospects I would also have a hard time taking risks with their lives.

    Yaknow, your nephew might just talk to spousal and any other family units who can understand and state an opinion. Ask them if they prefer the risk of his trying to change jobs, the option of his wife working or if they would prefer to take government help. He might be surprised at their answers.

    Jan
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  • Posted by boburg 9 years, 9 months ago
    I can beat that! Prior to Obamacare I had a policy that I paid $500 a month because of our age existing conditions. With the new obamacare requirements I lost that policy. now the best I could do is get a policy that is $1200 a month. but Obamacare pays $700 every month of it bringing it back down to $500. Now I'm getting threatening emails and letters and phone calls saying I need to prove my income. All this after I sent it to them with registered signature required copies. they still claim they have not received it yet. They will not even say what I sent them was not good enough they need something else. it does not even make logic sense to them that I'm paying premiums and therefore I have to have income to do it.
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  • Posted by superfluities 9 years, 9 months ago
    90% of Florida Obama care subscribers got the gubberment subsidy...I didn't....mine went up $600 a month to around $2700 a month for three people...much less coverage too! mission control we have a problem here. Never had eye or dental either.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I hadn't heard that radical but it makes sense. Give people a chance to read it and they probably won't.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks Jan. I know he doesn't like government assistance but Pennsylvania has the CHIP program. His son qualifies and that will help if we can talk him into accepting it. Damn kid has pride. Where did that come from?
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Great point. Obama claims to champion the blue collar guy but you are absolutely right about this. It may bk some companies or at the very least drive insurance costs up to the point the "working" people can't afford it.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Truth be told the Republicans had it easy. The bill was unpopular and the Dems had the votes. Sit on the sidelines and use it as a political weapon.
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  • Posted by sfdi1947 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wiggys;
    Ya need to check the electric roll call vote on Obama Care: Democrats 100%, Republicans 0%. I will admit both parties, and many others, between have been guilty of Crony Capitalism.
    Ethics is all about the price. Sooner or later the largest percentage will be bought.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course it shouldn't...the hard workers are the targets...they know responsible people want to be responsible and pay their way so they're blocking their way with 'greater good' speed bumps. I hope your seizing this opportunity to discuss this and the bigger picture with your nephew.
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 9 months ago
    I almost peed myself yesterday. I was watching a lesbian couple whining about Obama Care. they cried why do I have to pay for birth control and maternity leave. My partner will not be getting me pregnant? Waaaa. Well I guess the Gay and Lesbian community need be careful what you ask for because you might just get it. LOL. Good I hope they all complain about how bad this stupid idea was called ObamaCare.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    sigh...I hate weak people. Afraid of being called a bully...BY bullies. They probably will only whimper, and not full on scream, when the boot is on their throats too. A scream might offend the boot wearer.
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