Bureaucrats

Posted by Herb7734 8 months, 3 weeks ago to Politics
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New York Medical Examiner, circa 1955: He is performing an autopsy while demonstrating to two detectives. He pulls down his surgical mask. "Feel free to take yours off too.Its only purpose is to provide out hack commissioner and his imbecile , rule crazed toadies the opportunity to hand down another inane regulation, as if I might give our friend heremy cold.But thats what administrators do, isn't it?Add unnecessary rules?How else to justify their entirely unnecessary existence?


For the life of me, I couldn't find a better description of bureaucratic activity than this forensic doctor's description of the government's crony system., As he was blowing off steam while performing an autopsy.


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  • Posted by chad 8 months, 3 weeks ago
    People will strive toward what motivates them. In the case of bureaucrats what motivates them is to justify their job by pretending that their decisions are important to accomplishing the goal. This can happen in business bureaucracies too. The difference is one is freely chosen and usually quickly learns to abort any activity that is destructive while the 'enforced' rules of a government continue to grow and continue to toward stupidity all the while crushing ambitious and talented individuals while claiming the right to protect them. It is the road to serfdom and America is on it and well near the end.
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  • Posted by  $  Dobrien 8 months, 3 weeks ago
    “Owing to the shape of a bell curve, the education system is geared to the mean. Unfortunately, that kind of education is virtually calculated to bore and alienate gifted minds. But instead of making exceptions where it would do the most good, the educational bureaucracy often prefers not to be bothered.

    In my case, for example, much of the schooling to which I was subjected was probably worse than nothing. It consisted not of real education, but of repetition and oppressive socialization (entirely superfluous given the dose of oppression I was getting away from school). Had I been left alone, preferably with access to a good library and a minimal amount of high-quality instruction, I would at least have been free to learn without useless distractions and gratuitous indoctrination. But alas, no such luck.

    Let’s try to break the problem down a bit. The education system […] is committed to a warm and fuzzy but scientifically counterfactual form of egalitarianism which attributes all intellectual differences to environmental factors rather than biology, implying that the so-called 'gifted' are just pampered brats who, unless their parents can afford private schooling, should atone for their undeserved good fortune by staying behind and enriching the classroom environments of less privileged students.

    This approach may appear admirable, but its effects on our educational and intellectual standards, and all that depends on them, have already proven to be overwhelmingly negative. This clearly betrays an ulterior motive, suggesting that it has more to do with social engineering than education. There is an obvious difference between saying that poor students have all of the human dignity and basic rights of better students, and saying that there are no inherent educationally and socially relevant differences among students. The first statement makes sense, while the second does not.

    The gifted population accounts for a very large part of the world’s intellectual resources. As such, they can obviously be put to better use than smoothing the ruffled feathers of average or below-average students and their parents by decorating classroom environments which prevent the gifted from learning at their natural pace. The higher we go on the scale of intellectual brilliance – and we’re not necessarily talking just about IQ – the less support is offered by the education system, yet the more likely are conceptual syntheses and grand intellectual achievements of the kind seldom produced by any group of markedly less intelligent people. In some cases, the education system is discouraging or blocking such achievements, and thus cheating humanity of their benefits.”
    ― Christopher Langan
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    • Posted by 8 months, 3 weeks ago
      I was a mental drop-out. I put in my time and got out as soon as I could. It taught me that "achieving" was boring and the pursuit of anything else was better.
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      • Posted by  $  Dobrien 8 months, 3 weeks ago
        My daughter now teaches in the same elementary school that she attended as a gifted and talented student. Her role is to lead that same program.
        It has changed, now the gifted students are no longer allowed to meet separately. The concern is the rest of the students will feel bad. The result is
        to limit the expansion of knowledge for the brightest. It is one way to close a gap.
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        • Posted by 8 months, 3 weeks ago
          The problem is trying to govern natural selection In the past, the brightest students were allowed to skip a grade or two.They usually thrived on the greater challenge. But taking care of exceptional children has changed because it might make the regular kids feel inadequate.What a bunch of bull crap.I think that the entire grading system should be looked at and revised.
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          • Posted by  $  blarman 8 months, 3 weeks ago
            And with a growing push toward online education, this may actually happen. If you haven't checked out Khan Academy classes, you ought to. They are fantastic and cover a wide range of disciplines. Their math courses are especially good.
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          • Posted by  $  Dobrien 8 months, 3 weeks ago
            Keeping it interesting, stimulating curiosity,
            Explain connections and pertinence of skills and knowledge. https://youtu.be/yMvpJDbWX_c
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            • Posted by  $  allosaur 8 months, 3 weeks ago
              Never had an interest in seeing this flick until now.
              My tinnitus was giving me trouble with those kids talking; but when I checked it out in my Netflix, it has English subtitles.
              Yay! It's now on top of my queue and I'll likely see it next week. Hopefully, that subtitle listing isn't a lie. That happens sometimes.
              Me dino also noticed there is a yet to be available School Of Rock TV show that cranked up during 2016. There's no 2017. Maybe it only lasted one season.
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        • Posted by  $  Snezzy 8 months, 3 weeks ago
          Get those kids into working with horses. The horse has no understanding of a need to coddle imbeciles. (Also no appreciation of Royalty, as HM the Queen occasionally has discovered.)

          I have had very pleasant and surprisingly adult conversations with eight-year-olds who are taking riding lessons.
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        • Posted by  $  blarman 8 months, 3 weeks ago
          This has happened in my area as well. It's a joke and a travesty to the kids who actually have a demonstrated aptitude.
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          • Posted by 8 months, 3 weeks ago
            Eight seems to be the age at which children become aware of more than the immediate effect their surroundings have. Adults can muddle things up with too much information whereas an eight year old to pre-teen goes like an arrow to the point without any window-dressing contingencies.
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      • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 months, 3 weeks ago
        I don't blame you.--As to me, I did well in some subjects and poorly in others. I made straight A's in French in first year, and, (as my teacher had the idea), skipped the second year, went into the 3rd year, and made straight A's again. But I barely passed in biology. But, pretty early in 10th grade, I knew I was not interested in going to college; I would not if I could get around it. I went to business school instead (for a while; the school took bankruptcy after a few months), and continued my job as a carhop, which I loved (until the boss ruined it for me with his clamping down and orders to "slow down" on the curb,so I quit), and have had various jobs since. I have had different tech courses since then. But that never gets me a job. I am glad I didn't go to college and become an indentured servant for the rest of my life, under tens of thousands of dollars of debts with no way to ever finish paying them off.
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  • Posted by jim_rusnak 8 months, 3 weeks ago
    The Administrative state aka deep state is the greatest danger to our nation. If action is not taken soon, we will truly loose our liberties. Getting rid of useless rules created by the bureaucrats is not enough. We have to get rid of the persons who create these rules. Write to our President and Congress and demand that this grave problem be addressed immediately. Otherwise we will have a society where we have little or no freedoms at all. This is the most pressing problem of our times.
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    • Posted by 8 months, 3 weeks ago
      Everyone in Washington seems to be judged upon their ability to obtain notariety by passing a bill or proposing a change or fighting an existing something. The publish or perish syndrome. Note that quality rarely enters in as a part of this. Just "git 'er done." It doesn't matter how good the done is. One reason why we have so many stupid laws and regulations.
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  • Posted by  $  blarman 8 months, 3 weeks ago
    I'd love to go to more of a merit-based educational system. My son is now a sophomore in high school, but the school administration won't let him take the AP Calc exam - even though he spent last year as a freshman tutoring the Juniors and Seniors prepping for the exam for the simply BS reason that he hasn't taken the class. What is even more infuriating is that he isn't allowed - by their stupid bureaucracy - to simply test out of the lower classes (in which he is extremely bored). We've seriously considered home schooling him because the kid has a brilliant career ahead in computer science (he can already program in several languages) and at this point school is doing very little for him.
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    • Posted by  $  Snezzy 8 months, 3 weeks ago
      He's an engineer.

      He should apply to a technical college NOW. I've known people who have college degrees but no high-school diploma, and also some computer programmers whose only degree is "high-school dropout." He should stop wasting time and go finish his education.

      At one time the recommendations would have been M.I.T., CalTech, Purdue, Georgia Tech, Texas A&M, etc. I think that ALL of them are somewhat infested with the "liberal" crap, but I'm certain that M.I.T. must still be pretty good.

      It'll be a good plan at this point to get in touch with deans at those schools and ask for advice. If any of them gives you bureaucratic answers, cut 'em off at the knees.

      My wife knew a lady who invented a medical device for a Rochester NY company. She later went for a job where she would work with the machine. but was not qualified because she wasn't "certified" on it. "But it's MY machine, and I'm the one who DEVELOPED THE CERTIFICATION!" "Sorry, you don't have the certification."
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      • Posted by 8 months, 3 weeks ago
        A smaller tech school might be helpful. My son graduated from Lawrence..Tech which might do it for you.Lawrence Institute of Technology in the Detroit suburb of Southfield. Excellent school, not as well known, but if it's the education you want.you'll get everything you need....
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    • Posted by 8 months, 3 weeks ago
      You're preaching to the choir. Both my boys had similar problems. One was a science whiz, the other was amazingly creative in the arts.Their teachers were at a total loss as to how to handle them, or even appreciate them.
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 8 months, 3 weeks ago
    Lawyers run this country.

    If it weren't for nonsensical rules there would be no tort lawyers and hence no bureaucracy.

    Justification for non-existent jobs lies in the fact that "government" has a monopoly on force. Anyone can be "guilty" of a "crime" where no criminal activity is present.

    Punishing the innocent and rewarding the guilty is how the bureaucracy thrives...and that is also why we so desperately need to pare down government. That approach to life is evil.

    Thanks for the post from the 1950's. It shows how long that this nonsense has been going on.
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    • Posted by 8 months, 3 weeks ago
      Moochers have been around since before A.R. wrote about them. It seems to be intrinsic to human history. Fortunately, the men of the mind and theirworkers do so for themselves and not for the benefit of others or else Atlas would never existed in order to shrug.
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  • Posted by  $  dukem 8 months, 3 weeks ago
    I was in public secondary schools in a southern border state in the fifties, when skipping grades was possible (I skipped the third) and classes were divided into "sections" or "groups" based on the innate and demonstrated differing abilities of the students. There was some discussion even I was aware of about the wisdom of this, and it was explained to parents that this was simply a way of teaching more effectively and had nothing to do with the intellect of their child (which all the kids, even in elementary school, knew was B.S.) As the years progressed, I grew a bit ashamed of my "special" status which was known by the other kids, but kept on trucking through the years. It ended in engineering school in college ge where a whole bunch of other "gifted" students made me average, to my great relief. I noticed that the "gifted" students mostly worked harder or were more dedicated or interested students, not necessarily of higher IQ's. It was an interesting time of experimentation in public schools which ended in the sixties, when that system was trashed.
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    • Posted by  $  CaptainKirk 8 months, 3 weeks ago
      What they have done to education is a shame.
      The goal of school should be to make learning fun.
      To teach how to learn. To teach how specific types of people learn, and to give them PLENTY of practice.

      I tutor kids in math (I am proud that my daughter is a Published Writer and a Math person, going into accounting).
      The first thing I do is find out what they are not doing, and explain what Homework should be. The parents do not even understand the math, and cannot tell if their students have done it correctly, so they just back away.

      It's literally this simple to help any kid struggling in math:
      1) Pre-read the section before the teacher covers the material
      2) Make a list of every new word as you come across it (DO NOT lookup definitions, the list is enough)
      3) Work out EVERY Example on paper. Writing the EXAMPLE for your self, step by step, organized and clean
      4) Waste paper. Do not cram things on one piece. One page=One Example
      5) Before Class, SCAN the list of "new words" and say each of them to yourself (like buying a new car = seeing it more)
      Also, scan the examples.
      6) Follow along with the teacher. YOU will get 3-5 TIMES the value out of that lecture, and stop falling behind.
      7) Do EVERY homework problem on a BLANK piece of paper. Write the TYPE of problem on the top of the page. Write the problem itself (this is key for Recognition/Classification). Then write the answer, step by step. Write any insights. START on a fresh page if you screw up. Check the answer...
      8) Put this away. And do something else, other homework, take a 30 minute break
      9) Do your homework again. This time to turn in, or for your workbook. Do every problem again. Hopefully without peeking at your previous work.

      The magic is 2 fold. 1 Being Prepared. It really helps you pay attention. 2. PRACTICE MORE. Your confidence goes up every time you do the SAME Problem over.

      To study for a test, just redo ALL of the homework for the sections covered. You should be able to fly through it. Circle and flag the areas you forgot. That's an area to focus on.

      My neighbor went from failing grades to scoring so high on the next test, the teacher thought he cheated. When he explained that it was really easy because 1/2 of the test was from the examples, and the other 1/2 was just like the homework, the teacher knew. I spent 2 sessions with this kid. And I did not charge them a penny. He is now on his
      way to become an ENGINEER!

      My degree isn't education. But if I can figure that out, and I have watched it work EVERY SINGLE TIME, why can't the schools? (Because they are there to indoctrinate, and to equalize everyone... No child gets ahead).

      BTW, I don't charge. The only kids who don't improve are the ones who don't do the work. I make it easy for the parents to see that every problem is done twice. The reading list and the Examples for the next day. and when you get that call from a parent who is almost crying to say "Thank you! My daughter is in her room, SINGING while doing her math, and laughing because it is easy again!"... It warms your heart... And it breaks it too! Because this can't be accidental!


      Hey, should I post a TOPIC for parents with the complete details???? comment and let me know. This is probably the one group that would gladly use it!
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      • Posted by  $  Snezzy 8 months, 3 weeks ago
        Tremendously on target! I interview kids for math ability by asking, "What's 6 x 9?" The successful ones give the answer instantly.

        Because I'm a confirmed Wise Guy I also ask cashiers, "Which President is on the US $10 bill?" When they say, "I don't know," I say, "Right!" I like to think that I've just shined a bit of brightness into the dull job of being a cashier.
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        • Posted by 8 months, 3 weeks ago
          The job of cashiering is not as dull as you might think. Ask most newly hired persons at Wal0Mart and you'll find that being a cashier id their ambition. And it becomes a job that they cherish. You meet people, handle money and often solve pricing problems. A dull job for you and I, an exciting step-up for certain others.
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          • Posted by  $  CaptainKirk 8 months, 3 weeks ago
            I always tried to calculate the change before the machine did. I typically knew it before I finished putting in the amount they gave me. And I set a goal to never be off on the register, regardless of the volume.

            Ahhh, drive Through at Burger King...
            "He was a Burger King Employee... With Grease In His Hair!" Sung to JukeBox Hero!

            All my bills were always in order, facing the same direction. And I was trained to always say "Out of X Dollars", and place it sideways above the money until change was made. And to count up to that value from their amount as a double check on giving the correct change.

            The good old days... Nows its SWIPE, Click, Go!
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      • Posted by 8 months, 3 weeks ago
        Make it fun, make it interesting. In most of my classes, I was 100 miles away, unless the class was music.
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        • Posted by  $  CaptainKirk 8 months, 3 weeks ago
          Absolutely. Fun is key. I had a couple of teachers that left deep impressions on me... They would call on me, and use crazy examples like: Given this room, without any measuring tools tell me the length of the diagonal from this corner of the ceiling and 2 walls to the opposite 2 walls and the floor.

          One of my favorite books was Programming Pearls by Jon Bentley. My favorite problem was: given a dictionary of English words as input (assumed a file), generate (efficiently) a list of all anagrams that spell at least 2 words.

          Music... I almost flunked music. I can't CLAP to music. My daughter will push my hands down. LOL
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 months, 3 weeks ago
    One prime example of useless rules, imposed by bureaucrats: the requirement, now thankfully abolished by the Trump folks, for hybrid and electric vehicles to have artificial sound makers, so people can hear them coming. The sound made by modern, well-muffled internal combustion vehicles comes primarily by road friction from tires, and air turbulence. Electric vehicles would make the same sound, and would possibly be more noisy, thanks to the high pitched whine of the motors. Do the idiots who make up these rules even live in the real world?
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 months, 3 weeks ago
    Is there a subliminal message in the title?
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    • Posted by 8 months, 3 weeks ago
      The titles to my posts often have multiple meanings. Part of the fn for me if readers get it.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 months, 3 weeks ago
        I may not have gotten this one. I was thinking of the political ad 18 years ago where at the end the word Bureaucrats zooms in such a way that for a split second only the letters RATS are visible. Somepeople thought it was a subliminal message, but that didn't make much sense to me because "bureaucrats" already has a negative connotation. I couldn't see subliminally associated them with rats would make that much difference. Plus I think the effects of subliminal messages are questionable.

        Watching the ad now seems funny. https://youtu.be/2NPKxhfFQMs

        Pick which political party you want running Medicare Part D. It seems silly.
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  • Posted by wiggys 8 months, 3 weeks ago
    publish his comment in the NYT, Wash. Post and all other newspapers in the country. then have the comments as the lead story on all television news media and can it go viral?
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