Warnings about school shooting suspect missed
We missed the signs, but want your guns. Were stupid, but we will protect you from bad guys who didn't give us your guns. You may be dead, but rest happy we will send him to prison for killing you, or maybe parole, because the shrink says he's nice. What a dysfunctional system. Ayn Rand would not put up with it.....
At 18, dad would be 78? Mom having hot-flashes and menopause while changing diapers?
There are long lines of adoptive parent prospects in this country, look at how many will spend $50,000 to $100,000 to adopt a little Chinese kid. This doesn't seem like we have to accept all-comers.
They were exhausted parents and the kids lived their lives in video games, doesn't appear to have been any religious or moral foundation taught to them, I don't think it's much more complex than that.
Now at 47, and my son is grown and about to be married, I am pretty shocked when I see people about my age with young kids that were probably assisted-by-science. War deployments, 20 years of business ownership, business travel, curling, golf, shooting on the weekends... I would be pretty damned exhausted trying to take care of a toddler (at 10 or 12 years older than I am now).
The article I read described the "mom" at 49 and her husband (adopted dad) were retired and had just moved to south Florida when they adopted the kids. The dad died a few years later (I presume of natural causes as he was older than the wife and a retired advertising executive from NY).
After the dad died, the mom approached several neighbors asking them to take the kids, because she couldn't keep up with them (4-5 year olds). We can generally assume how the rest of their childhood went.
Seems like mom was a stay-at-home wife, and with the limited information I have read, bipolar or depressive. We can also make some assumptions of that toxic soup the kids were raised in from a mental health perspective.. not including whatever their birth parents passed-along.
I realize the evil this kid did, but if I was on the jury and they were asking for a death penalty, I have to admit I would probably not be able to make that leap based on what I have read (no idea if it is entirely factual).
This kids & adults don't come out of the ether.. society crafts them. We have to start acknowledging our failures - and it's not a lack of gun control.
The people that took him in were not relatives of the adoptive parents, they were the parents of a friend of his that had known him for several years.
They temporary housing adults keep insisting he had the rifle locked up - that's obvious, in most states it is a felony and criminal negligence + others to make available a firearm to a person you believe or know to be mentally ill. If they admit the kid had the rifle in bed with him, they are going to prison.
The danger for the temporary parents is if they had significant cause to believe he may have mental illness or a break with reality, if they did, they should have called the police before this happened.
next time a person sees something similar, call the fbi and record the name date and time of call.
call the school and tell them it has been reported to the fbi. Then call the local police where the school is and tell them. And finally call a news paper in that community and give them all of the info and the facebook account to see. In this manner maybe the fbi will get off their butts.
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When my neighbor was talking to me about how much they really knew about this kid I just said, "Sounds like it wasn't an accident." I still, sadly, think that's the case. Strange, strange days, my friends...
Something has drastically changed since I was a kid, we used to take our guns to school in order to work on them in metal shop and/or woodshop, and no one got shot. Guns have been around for a long time. Guns haven't changed except for some basic differences, shape, color, feel, the way they look, insignificant as to what they can do. A single shot bolt action rifle can kill just as effectively as an AR15, or even an M16, but they all take someone to aim them and pull the trigger. Those differences have not changed the way we behave, our society is what has changed us. Hell, I even remember when our politicians seemed to openly respect each other, and people actually respected the laws we had, at least most of them. Whatever has changed is what has to be stopped.
We may need to make and enforce laws (all laws) that stop the crimes (all crimes) and the causes of those crimes, not more laws against the tools (whatever they are) used to commit those crimes. A crime is an action by man, it is not a tool used to commit a crime. Some crimes are committed (by man) without the use of a tool. Running people down with a vehicle is a crime, the vehicle is not a criminal, the driver is. Personally I attribute the biggest changes in society to our politicians, especially some of the current ones, they confuse the people with their graft and power struggles, and today openly disobey the same laws that we pay them to create. What can anyone expect from our youth and even so many adults when we demonstrate such disrespect for each other and disrespect for our laws in so many parts of our society today? Many people have got to be confused as hell. The question is, what are we going to do about it that actually works?
Simply seeing a therapist for whatever doesn't make someone an adjudication of mental illness, nor should it. Many people have a mental illness - over 25% of the population, if treated it's nothing to worry about. Brains are chemical computers, they go hay wire when there is a chemical imbalance. Correct the imbalance and things can be pretty normal (within reason).
We need to have a few key laws changed:
1.) Mental Health Privacy - if someone walks out of a mental health treatment center, or stop taking your medication, your physician should be required to report it to the background check system. It's not a "crime", but you shouldn't be buying firearms or getting on planes.
2.) I'm tired of bullshit arguments put up by people on the media for gun control laws that are "true" where they are, but they think is the gospel for the other 49 states - and that is not the case.
Personally, I think the uneven allocation of gun control and criminal prosecution associated violates the equal protection clause of the Constitution. It seems like we need to trash all of them and just implement a system uniformly across the country.
"Gun Show Loophole" - finally, a lefty admitted on TV, that is when you meet someone (another shopper) at a gun show, go out to the parking lot and sell a gun for cash. Ok, that happens at a 7/11 too, it's not a "gun show loophole".
"Holes in the Background Check System" - The FBI actually contracts that out to a private vendor, the contract is re-bid every 5 years. How about if they just change the requirements and have the new vendor bid accordingly. They don't need 6 months of debate for that.
"Fell through the cracks" - they all fall through the cracks, we all know government is horribly inefficient and pretty much incompetent at most things it does. Are we surprised? I don't see a Six Sigma result coming out of any of these plans.
"Weapons of War" - the Las Vegas guy is the only one shooting from a long distance. For everyone else, a semi-auto handgun with a 50 or 100 round magazine would be doing exactly the same result as an AR-15 at 10 feet to 50 yards. I haven't seen anyone screaming about handguns - though they do represent 90%+ of gun deaths.
The bigger question. How did he get his gun into school that day? A school I don't think he was even supposed to be attending.
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here is something more current:
https://www.thoughtco.com/search-and-...
by a county commissioner whose name sounds like a product that's not PC. Who the hell is called Beam Furr?
Anyhoo, here's me own beam on what Beam said~
"We ignored the signs. We should have done something about the signs everyone is now saying they saw."
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/3742...
The Russians have been lost in the desert for 40 years.. yet if you listen to the MSM, they are the epitome of efficient evil operations. When they take their lips off the vodka bottle I guess.
It all depends on the narrative they’re pushing. When belittling Mitt Romney’s accurate assessment of the geopolitical situation it was, “The eighties called, they want their foreign policy back”. When trying to delegitimize Trump, it’s Putin the evil mastermind controlling U.S. elections.
The Florida governor calls for the FBI director to resign!
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/flo...
https://www.mediaite.com/online/twitt...
Be advised me dino is sorely tempted to purloin those stated concepts and apply them elsewhere.
Just give me an appropriate time and place that's as yet to present itself.
Allosaurs think like predators, ya know.
Any time to strike timing is~tick tick tick~hell's bells everything!.
I am dino~
Hear ne ROAR!
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Seeing the headlines without having actual information, it's amazing to me how when any rare costly peril happens in any context there are always Monday morning quarterbacks. If they were responsible for validating that circuit board, reading the military reports, or whatever, the peril never would have happened. But bad stuff will always happen. Ghastly accounts of something like someone dying in a freak elevator accident are not actionable. They can only cause over-reaction.
No thank you, but thankfully other people follow it. I hope they will post an action alert if there is a specific bill to ban something or there is a proposed new rule open to public comment. I will contact someone in my Congressman's or Senators' office to urge them not to just make more things illegal.
It's hard to say for sure how effective I am, but when there's a specific vote I care about, I like to think I can move the needle and actually change their vote, esp if even a handful of other people who know the congressman and/or someone on his staff all do the same thing.