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Warnings about school shooting suspect missed

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 2 months ago to Culture
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We missed the signs, but want your guns. Were stupid, but we will protect you from bad guys who didn't give us your guns. You may be dead, but rest happy we will send him to prison for killing you, or maybe parole, because the shrink says he's nice. What a dysfunctional system. Ayn Rand would not put up with it.....


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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have no fasith in any congressman, as they all work for someone other than their district. However, Trump has told Sessions to look into banning bump stocks, which is a no brainer, unless you think you need rapid fire for killing a herd of deer or sasquatches.. not too much opposition from anyone I have heard of. What they need to do is to be able to classify specific risk factors and require them to be entered in the NIBC system, so you pull a name and it gets flagged for the risk factors and not allow a goober like this kid to buy a gun.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "you really should look into this, unless you hate guns, have none, and don't give a hoot. "
    No thank you, but thankfully other people follow it. I hope they will post an action alert if there is a specific bill to ban something or there is a proposed new rule open to public comment. I will contact someone in my Congressman's or Senators' office to urge them not to just make more things illegal.

    It's hard to say for sure how effective I am, but when there's a specific vote I care about, I like to think I can move the needle and actually change their vote, esp if even a handful of other people who know the congressman and/or someone on his staff all do the same thing.
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  • Posted by Abaco 8 years, 2 months ago
    Yeah...I listened to Stefan Molyneoux's podcast on this when I was out running errands this weekend. Frankly...I am amazed at 1-the depth of deception put out through the mainstream media right after the shooting, and 2-the totally across-the-board failure of multiple organizations who's charters are specifically to prevent this kind of thing.

    When my neighbor was talking to me about how much they really knew about this kid I just said, "Sounds like it wasn't an accident." I still, sadly, think that's the case. Strange, strange days, my friends...
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    CG, you really should look into this, unless you hate guns, have none, and don't give a hoot. The id was 19, dysfunctional, had been reported to the FBI twice as violent and saying he was going to kill kids at school, then did it. Now, every snowflake in the world is melting down and demanding all guns be taken away. Something wrong here?
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, and the excuses keep flying. Amazing how anything with Trump is instant impeachment, yet when another area of our useless governmental organs fail, it's "we will get to the bottom of this".
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  • Posted by Madanthonywayne 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    “The Russians have been lost in the desert for 40 years.. yet if you listen to the MSM, they are the epitome of efficient evil operations. When they take their lips off the vodka bottle I guess”

    It all depends on the narrative they’re pushing. When belittling Mitt Romney’s accurate assessment of the geopolitical situation it was, “The eighties called, they want their foreign policy back”. When trying to delegitimize Trump, it’s Putin the evil mastermind controlling U.S. elections.
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  • Posted by Madanthonywayne 8 years, 2 months ago
    This wasn’t a case of “we missed the signs”. This guy was reported to the FBI in September for saying he wanted to be a professional school shooter in a post on YouTube. He made the post using his actual name, but the FBI said they couldn’t figure out who posted the comment. Then in January of this year, someone who knew him contacted the FBI and said the guy was stockpiling guns and was a likely school shooter. Two direct reports made to the FBI specifically naming the guy and they did NOTHING.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 2 months ago
    I have not read a single word beyond a headline or listened to any info on this, so I'm completely ignorant.

    Seeing the headlines without having actual information, it's amazing to me how when any rare costly peril happens in any context there are always Monday morning quarterbacks. If they were responsible for validating that circuit board, reading the military reports, or whatever, the peril never would have happened. But bad stuff will always happen. Ghastly accounts of something like someone dying in a freak elevator accident are not actionable. They can only cause over-reaction.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I graduated high school in 1962, before the shooting thing kicked in. My problem back then was the boredom factor- being force fed what THEY wanted to teach rather than relying on me to learn
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  • Posted by ycandrea 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If I had high school aged kids now I would not let them go to a gov't run one. Maybe a Catholic one or I would home school. Are there private high schools? Now there is a need that some enterprising people could fill!
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How about ONE gate (12 ft fences) surrounding the property into which students come in and are checked for biometric admittance- kind of like they do in subways. One way in, multiple ways out through one way circular doors. All building doors have cameras. Believe me, if this sort of thing happened in business, it would be taken care off pretty fast.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 2 months ago
    Kids can be passionate for a cause, even a wrong cause.If they're not, they may be dead in the head.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 2 months ago
    Rabbits are stealing food from the garden. Stop planting food! Don't kill the rabbits, way too cruel -- and, what about Easter?
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We sell maybe $600k a year in product, and WE could afford to get one. Fire all the ART teachers that we dont need at schools and put in this system there
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That works for business, they can then disable a card immediately when a threat is detected or reported. Duh, but that costs money, so we then can't give useless administrators 300K a year for nothing...so that won't work....
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interestingly enough, I find YouTube to be a pretty good source for learning stuff that is relevand to my life right now, like auto diagnosis and repair for example. I fixed my chevy avalanche and my dishwasher be looking at youtube. There is "learning", where you choose what you need to know, and "teaching", where they try to inject you with knowledge THEY want you to know. I dont remember much of anything I learned up through high school- They taught, and I must have just been THERE in name only because they made me attend.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    maybe each of the students gets a RFID card or looks into a facial recognition device to let them in. We have one at work and it cost about $150 and connects to the internet and logs everyone in real time
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  • Posted by NealS 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oops, sorry, you got me, speaking of forgetting things (about 50 years ago), I have to admit that I did do some shooting at some people, probably even killed them, I saw them go down, but I don't know absolutely for sure if they died or not, they were shooting back, and they weren't there in the morning. I did not use my old rifle or shotgun, you provided me with some other ones, well actually you gave me only a pistol, I had to buy the M16 that I carried and used. I also used a comrades M14 (M1A) to shoot at people, it was better at actually knocking people down. I do know also that I was ordered to order thousands more to die from 8" and 175mm rounds we sent to them by air mail. I can live with this because that's what you trained me to do and actually it was in self defense of myself and my comrades. Let me restate my claim; to this day I have not shot, or even shot at, anyone that didn't deserve it.
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  • Posted by skidance 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But, but.... They would have screamed, "age discrimination"! I've actually seen that happen--or the adoption agency fears that it might, so does not reject the prospective adoptive parent(s). It seems to me that common sense and objectivity are sadly lacking these days.
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  • Posted by skidance 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    While it's indeed possible that some psychotropic drugs may affect certain individuals in ways that, say, enhance anger, it's also the case that the most dangerous period is shortly after the patient begins the medication (before it has time to go into effect) or if and when the medication is abruptly discontinued.
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  • Posted by NealS 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You must have seen mine, and it was in, you'll probably not believe this either, it was in California, back when California was a State in the 50's. My dad actually taught me to shoot when I was about 6, and by the time I was eleven I owned both a shotgun and a rifle, and even a bow and arrows. However the key thing here is that I never shot anyone, still haven't to date.
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  • Posted by skidance 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I once had a client who faked being suicidal to avoid placement. That client preferred to be in a hospital environment. When the 72 hours expired, a new suicide threat was made.
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