China Calls US Cowards

Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 2 months ago to Politics
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I came across this in Defense News daily update. Interesting baiting of the US. They are playing this like a long, organized competition, and we are arguing amongst ourselves.


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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thats him! Mr. Butler. One of the best officers I had, and my first. The CO of the Gudgeon (John Byron) was a close 2nd, and I had another named Malcom Wright something who was CO Of Rogers when I left.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 7 years, 2 months ago
    When I was very young, my employer, who served in the Army during WW2, told me he was having a drink with a Russian comrade. The Russian was very said and told him one day they would be enemies. My employer protested they were friends who had fought alongside one another. The Russian said, “You just don’t understand!” Neither can an Occidental understand the Oriental mind!
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I havent found his name but he had a Texas drawl and wore cowboy boots. On the Will Rogers our CO wanted him to stop wearing them, and then he stepped into the sail hatch in Charleston and a cottonmouth latched onto his toes and he jumped out hollering, and kicked boot and snake into the river. He was my Div O for my 2 patrols there.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh, God no. I even had a CO one dark midwatch come into Sonar and start that tripe, he was saying I reminded him of him, when I told him, "uh, Cap'n, I'm not black" he got depressed and went to harass the nukes aft. Our skills were basic and we used the tools at hand, I got some good catches and missed some more obvious ones. We were pretty good at doing off the cuff "Target Motion Analysis" (TMA) using the cute litle bearing rate slide rule the Navy had had since WW2. That was amazing that we could tell the fire control party they were all wrong, and prove it, with just basic geometry.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh, shore power was a totally different bird, for that. I remember a boat that hooked the phases up incorrect, threw the breaker and had a spectacular boom form the shore power trunk. That was after they supposedly tested and checked they were all aligned correct. I am amazed that the Virginia's would go DC except it might be a better way because then you can charge the battery directly, or feed a MG set for the hibachi, or power to the non vital bus. I saw a video a while back where they talked to the Admiral running the Virginia program, and it turned out he was my old weapons officer from my first boat (USS Will Rogers) in 1977/8. Glad to see he went up, he was a really good, fair guy and knew his stuff.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nice, as a sonar tech, we had to be able to discerne the propulsion type and details, so we would practice on the merchants, back in the 70's a lot were running diesels in the reduction mode, and you could get gear counts on the harmonics, then it went more and more to DD and DE, so you had to compare screw blade to engine harmonics and go "oh, the same". If not you defaulted to DE.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Strange. The first automatic sync on a Nuc I am aware of is on the Virginia Class, and it is all solid-state, using computer controls anyway. It syncs, you look at the synchroscope, and you close the breaker, which is permissive, based on the computer. This is for shore power though, because VA Class has a DC diesel.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are two main types of marine Diesel engines, low speed, direct drive and medium speed, which are more often generators for electric drive. Wartsila absolutely dominated the medium speed market. They made tons of money and bought a leading low speed supplier, Swiss Sultzer. This gave them that part of the market too.
    Those engines are huge, and usually build right into the ship under a license to the shipyard.
    The Finns are interesting and tenacious. Nokia, Wartsila, Vacon, the Switch...they get in, work hard, innovate and dominate in a non-exploitive fashion.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am pretty sure we had a lockout on ours, the EO took control of it when warmed up and could read how much out of phase it was so he could parallel it the the 2 500KW MG, switch the load from one to the diesel and then take it off line to use for the hibachi start up using the battery. The 2 500 KW would be feeding the whole boat as the SSTGs were off because the hibachi was down, so all you had was them running the whole load, so one was needed to feed it for start up and the diesel replaced it. If you could do it 180 out you would trash both vital and non vital busses depending on when, But you would never bring it on line until it matched. Diesel boats didnt have any diesel AC, they were all MG sets running on the battery, all we had was a big DC generator on the engine.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The is a show on Smithsonian channel on every Tuesday night at 2 am where they do a deep review of a large ship, and almost every one uses Wartsilia now. They are huge engines.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, they did give away a huge chunk of change after the war to defeat the real enemy, or Russia would own Europe and then they went socialist anyways...
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    probably true. N Korea is a hellhole. They can taunt the USA as it is and its not their 'fault". Trump is right that it IS their fault for propping up the regime.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe give it to china. They seem to want it, although I doubt they REALLY want it. We should offer to give it to them.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, Mr Chairman, break down that wall. Walk over him, and give the whole thing to South Korea. No one will want to undermine that change from within.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The only reason to pay attention to n Korea is that fat boy threatens everyone
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually defensive weapons are the only rational thing to have against n korea. Who would actually WANT n korea
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We damn near had one with the liberals leading the charge with riots and blocking trump at every turn
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We have started down the path of helping the Taiwanese make submarines couple of times. Seems like this administration would be all in for it.

    You are quite right about the North Koreans sinking a South Korean ship. This spawned a real South Korean interest in submarines and Anti submarine warfare (ASW). The FFXII platform was developed for this purpose, and went to sea Feb 1. We provide the hybrid electric drive system for this ship and the ASW mission.
    https://navyrecognition.com/index.php...
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