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School shooting. Is it time for armed security on all campuses?

Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 4 months ago to News
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The school shooting at an elementary school in CT yesterday is particularly unsettling to me, as I work at an elementary school and most of my day is spent in the Kindergarten classrooms working with 5 and 6 years olds. I am not, however, one of those who are saying that something like this happening is "unfathomable". I'm probably viewed as being a little on the paranoid side among my peers because I always jump to the extreme when anything seems a little off kilter.

For example, a few weeks ago I heard office staff talking on the radio that the overhead system (speakers) weren't working for some reason and I immediately grabbed a few extra radios and passed them out to teachers saying, "keep this on your person until the overhead gets fixed", some looked at me perplexed until I explained, "What if somebody's tampered with our speaker system? If something crazy happens we won't be able to communicate...call me nuts I don't care just take a friggin' radio!" I got different reactions from them. Some were surprised with my train of thought and others were appreciative of my preparedness. The speaker system was quickly fixed and all was well.

Maybe I am being extreme, but when I see kids on the playground, or sitting in a classroom, it has crossed my mind that 'if some lunatic wanted to cause chaos here it could be easily done', but let's face it because it's true...as we have just seen, once again. I was at a Christmas dinner last night with my book club friends (almost all teachers) and eventually the school shooting topic did come up, although we had vowed to avoid it for the evening because it is so upsetting. We didn't talk about it for too long, but we quickly came to the conclusion that there is no real way to make a school "totally secure" from an intruder if someone is so inclined to intrude.

Sure, there are certain "security" measures in place, enforcing them is a priority, keeping the kids safe at all times is paramount (even to the extreme of not letting children 'chase' each other on the playground to avoid injuries...and I could write a book about all the bloody noses and head lumps that result from this practically daily because enforcing the "no chasing" rule on a playground with 90 kindergartners is just as difficult as maintaining a "secure school"...you do your best, but if they're inclined to chase, they're going to chase...they're 5 year olds and that's what they want to do).

I've been thinking about school security a lot this morning, watching the news etc. and the topic of having an armed security officer/cop on every campus has been brought up. (Gun control has also been brought up, but being a gun enthusiast and freedom lover and a believer in having a right to defend myself and my family I do not believe that adding more gun laws to the books will do a damned thing to stop lunacy.) So I'm wondering... is it time to privatize schools and add an armed officer to each campus? Or should some charter schools pop up offering this service on campus, giving parents a choice of sending their children to schools where they think their kids will be as safe as possible?

Sure, some parents would opt to not have their kids attend a school where there is a gun present ANY where on campus, even if it's holstered on a hip of a trained law enforcement officer and that's their choice to do so, but is it time to do this? Would public schools ever offer this? (I'm sure the unions would love it as they could collect union dues from an officer too), but it would work against their current gun control agenda so I'm not so sure really.

What say you?


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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    first of all, the money was in at 5k per safe room, which I did not agree made monetary or tactical sense, just was willing to look at the pros and cons. 2nd, 1929 was the highest spike in mass murder occurrences. St. valentine's day etc. was a nod to that time period. Your answer seems to be guns to every question. They are essential but to quote the bard, "the pen..."
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  • Posted by 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What kind of brick walls are we talking about? I'm thinking it would take a lot of shooting to get through them, and how much power would be left if a bullet did make it thru, but I digress. You've obviously done a lot of thinking about these types of scenarios and have come to a few logical conclusions because of it. Most people's minds don't even go in this direction, instead they go towards trying to make the impossible happen. Waving a magic wand and stopping dangerous people from being dangerous. I don't have a lot of faith in the mental health end either. Unless we bring back asylums, which I don't see happening.
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    he hasn't read all 1000 comments in this post. and don't slug him, his trigger's cocked
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Private citizens who died with a gun in their hand did not change did not stop the mass genocide. I do not disagree that the historical process of registration and confiscation has been a prelude to genocide. The people who made a real difference lived, reported, and publicized what was happening mad the most difference towards ending these murderous regimes.
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  • Posted by 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We said that Hitler confiscated the guns from the registration list at the same time... You don't know about "jynx! you owe me a coke?" Were you never 9 years old in the United States before? lol
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    LetsShrug gets a point, David, you are so off the charts on everyone having a tommy gun because there's a st valentine's day massacre around every corner. I agree with you that being armed is a good thing. and that guns are a good answer here, but we can talk about other deterrents as well.
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am giving you a point for the whiffle bat comment.
    In the USSR or Nazi Germany or communist China, whether you owned a gun or not was rarely the determining factor in your survival. But, knowing what was at stake and deciding to leave while one still could, WAS a major determiner in survival.
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  • Posted by 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree with you David and I understand the frustration. How anyone can think leaving yourself, and students defenseless from a possible mass murderer is hard for me to understand as well. Too many only want to deal with how they WISH the world could be rather than how it really is. It's a type of extreme denial...a mental illness perhaps?
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why do you say that safe rooms, used in tandem with other deterrents, is collectivist thinking? Even if we were playing cowboys and indians, portable, bullet proof "walls" would be helpful.
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