What would you do? What would John Galt do?
You walk into a small beach bar on the ocean and a guy is sitting there. You have met him at this establishment before so you sit down near him and strike up a conversation. This is the sort of bar where patrons generally talk freely amongst each other. The man was in politics years ago in Kansas and occasionally brings up political topics. You know that his opinions are all over the map and have even moved to the pool table in the sand in order to not listen to him before. You try to steer the conversation away from politics, but he is not deterred. Then he says:
1) He is for raising the minimum wage
What would you do?
2) He states that minimum wage will not affect unemployment and the law of supply and demand has been repealed.
What would you do?
3) Then he says Obamacare is great.
WWYD?
4) After explaining that the only areas were the cost of medical has gone down are those the government stayed out of (e.g., Laser correction surgery), he says we are the only advanced nation without nationalized health care.
WWYD?
5) Then he says kathleen sebelius, who is from Kansas, is a wonderful women.
6) Then he calls you a racist, because you state Obama has the same philosophy Stalin, Moa, Hilter, etc.
7) Then he states we should get rid of the Constitution.
WWYD?
1) He is for raising the minimum wage
What would you do?
2) He states that minimum wage will not affect unemployment and the law of supply and demand has been repealed.
What would you do?
3) Then he says Obamacare is great.
WWYD?
4) After explaining that the only areas were the cost of medical has gone down are those the government stayed out of (e.g., Laser correction surgery), he says we are the only advanced nation without nationalized health care.
WWYD?
5) Then he says kathleen sebelius, who is from Kansas, is a wonderful women.
6) Then he calls you a racist, because you state Obama has the same philosophy Stalin, Moa, Hilter, etc.
7) Then he states we should get rid of the Constitution.
WWYD?
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I think that was the perfect time to attempt to change someone’s mind. The best time to interject an idea into a conversation is when someone is emotionally on a roll against it. It is brainwashing 101. A person is most vulnerable to subliminal messaging when they are most adamant and animated about resisting the message.
You are at a bar:
1. They are drinking
2. The music is possibly being played at a 42 to 72 beats a minute (closer to their heart rate is good)
You've got your set-up. Go for it. Let them vent and calmly say the opposite in between beats, like:
“Yes, what I am saying is true” or “You need to believe what I am saying.”
(Yes, I’ve been accused of being a little manipulating. Lol)
I imagine I would have stood and extended my hand to my wife; then turned to him and said, "with due respect for your age, sir, your many years of spending the hard earned money of others has left you without a memory of its origin." Then, we would move farther from him.
...at least, I hope I could come up with something similar at the moment. I have a hard time with pompous elitism.... :)
If not now...
If not who...
GO!
That's why I ended every speech I ever gave - and some letters - by saying "Never surrender." Never, never - in what seem to be small interactions, to in-your-face arguments. Never.
Having said that, remember that the person working the hardest in the argument will probably lose. Anyone who's argued with a child knows this - they have lots of energy and can think up a zillion reasons why they should be able to have a cookie before dinner. You work harder than he does if you try to counter every single reason with an argument. Pick one or two things to say, and keep saying them, and don't say anything else: "no." and "not a chance". They quit, eventually. This works on everyone.
Thirdly, remember that a person can't be argued out of something he wasn't argued into. That is, one cannot overcome emotion with logic. You're not going to "win" this argument. Your facts will have no impact on him, and your well-crafted replies or statements are wasted on him.
All you can do is to let him know that you, the person standing right in front of him, will never surrender.
so, first, I would not try to steer the conversation away from politics. He's too determined to go with you.
At the first point, I would pick my "one thing to say" , which is usually on the order of "You're wrong, and I have no intention of supporting it, financially or otherwise." Sometimes I add "and you can't make me."
It works against 2, 3, and 4,
Re 5 "I do not know the woman/lady/person."
Re 6, I might point out that he doesn't know me well enough to be able to make that judgement. That one is hard to keep saying, but it can be done.
Re 7 Go back to "You're wrong, and [get right into his face] you'll have to kill me to do it."
STARE
HIM
DOWN
Never Surrender.
but it's definitely not for atheists.
My wife and I spent one weekend there, and have met with other couples monthly since. It is a solid investment in a healthy marriage.
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