Galt's Gulch

Labor unions are a primary cause of economic failure

Posted by overmanwarrior 13 years, 3 months ago to History
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The videos tell the story pretty well, from the goof balls in the Chicago Teachers Union to the Writers Guild, they all started with the taint of socialism at their roots.
SOURCE URL: http://overmanwarrior.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/the-hostess-company-folds-government-in-bed-with-communist-labor-unions/

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  • Posted by WWJGD 13 years, 3 months ago
    A "taint" of Socialism, OMW? No, it was more than a "taint."

    The labor movement in the US was started by Communists under the direction of the Soviet KGB.

    You can see it all over in the writings of the early movement's leaders.
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  • Posted by khalling 13 years, 3 months ago
    my parents were both teachers (in the days of suit jacket and ties, dresses and hose). also, they were teachers in Iowa, home of a big test and high scoring kids. here is my issue with big labor. their responsibility is to their ongoing concern. not to the school system, not to a homeowner paying property taxes. most importantly, not to the student. and one can seriously question whether they are truly for the teacher. when you privatize, all sorts of things hone into focus quickly. You have a customer and if performance is poor, the system will not be paid. the Union is the good teacher's worst enemy in my book.
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    • Posted by overmanwarrior 13 years, 3 months ago
      That is why they are willing to do anything to keep competition out of the education process, because their goals only work if education is a government backed monopoly. I agree with you totally.
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  • Posted by terrycan 13 years, 3 months ago
    A very well written article. I am a member of a labor union. The reason is they pay me more than any one else. I believe there is room for big labor and capitlists to work towards the common goal of getting the work out at a competitive price.
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    • Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 3 months ago
      I used to be in the CWA union, I now work at a school where some of the teachers are in a union and from what I've experienced and from what I've just read in Shadowbosses the unions are out to make the union money so they can fund their candidates elections, indoctrinate children, and bully business owners (and tax payers) to the point of extinction. They're out of control.
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      • Posted by overmanwarrior 13 years, 3 months ago
        Yes they are. I don't see how they (unions) can ever think to function in a capitalist society--and they don't plan to. Instead they are always on the lookout for revolution. And their signs with fists on them dictate their intentions toward violance over invention.
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      • Posted by terrycan 13 years, 3 months ago
        The labor unions did and still could perform a good role for workers and the economy. The biggest problem I see is the union protects incompetence. The unions need to look at some people and tell them you are in the wrong job. The union could work to get this person into a position where they would by productive.
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        • Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 3 months ago
          Why is that the union's job? That should be the business owners' job to fire bad employees..and the employee's job to find other work. How is the union needed, or wanted, or even have a say in any of that process? They should just get out of the way and stop stealing dues money. (They're like a mini government...only not so "mini" anymore.)
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          • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 13 years, 3 months ago
            The problems these days that hinder an employers decision to fire an employee that is not doing their job, unfortunately, are extensive. Discrimination is the clarion call for many disgruntled employees, and just skews legitimate grievances. Any perceived "ism" can be thrown into the mix, and suddenly a huge lawsuit faces the employer who just wanted to be rid of unproductive dead weight.
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          • Posted by terrycan 13 years, 3 months ago
            The unions job is to keep their dues paying member employed. I have been a IAM member for the last 5 years. Non-union workers benefit by riding on the coat tails of union workers. One thing that really annoys me is my money is donated to political candidates I don't support.
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            • Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 3 months ago
              And THAT is reason enough to become a non paying member (supporting politicians that you don't approve of....and THAT is their biggest motive by the way, not keeping you in a job.) The non paying members have chosen not to pay because they have a choice (which isn't like a lot of teacher's unions...most are forced to pay or lose their job)...and you have chosen TO pay. If you don't like them "riding on your coat tails"...then stop paying.
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              • Posted by terrycan 13 years, 3 months ago
                I don't know how you make a living or what your experience has been. No organization is perfect. Remember John Galt organized the producers to strike. That was the original concept of organized labor. I agree government unions are out of control.
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        • Posted by WWJGD 13 years, 3 months ago
          terrycan, though I disagree with you, I modded you up because I think you've brought up something that is worth discussing.
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          • Posted by terrycan 13 years, 3 months ago
            Thank you. I don't believe the union concept is obsolete. Organized labor needs some serious repair. Union labor generally is more expensive. Hopefully you get what you pay for. Unions tend to support apprenticeships that increase a workers skill level. Remember you can always find someone who will do a job for less. Often the cheapest bid is not the most cost effective.
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