Tired of Russia hacking story

Posted by American_Brian 6 years, 10 months ago to Government
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Tired of Hearing about Russia hacking it Did Not Happen as a country we need to move on and focus of America and the future let President trump do his job arrest the Clinton the Obama get schumer and polosi out drain the swamp already the people in Washington need to grow up be adults stop acting like preschoolers we need a government not spend more money on their Bull Sh..


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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 10 months ago
    Most of the news on mainstream media is biased propaganda rubbish, and this is an excellent example. It's frustrating to every rational thinking person, A_B.
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    • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago
      I think that the information that was "hacked" was stuff that the democrats and Hillary tried to hide from us. It wasnt changed or fabricated. Thats why it came down on Hillary so badly- it was all true and they didnt even claim it wasnt.
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  • Posted by Flootus5 6 years, 10 months ago
    What amazes me is that nobody on either side of this asks WHY would the Russians favor Trump? They already had a patsy with Hillary colluding with them over uranium, Clinton Foundation donations, ridiculous speaking fees, phony resets.....and then there is Podesta's dealings with the Russians.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 6 years, 10 months ago
    Russia has tried to affect elections for years, this is nothing new. We do the same thing as do most countries. Obama tried to influence the UK BREXIT vote and the Israel PM election. the real question should be "Were they successful?" So far there is no indication that Russian "hacking" had any impact on the outcome.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 10 months ago
    You want Democrats to grow up? tsk,tsk and a couple of tch's. Democrats are slipping down a greasy slope into the far reaches of the extreme left. They are hoping that their seeds of collectivism will grow as they bank on their plant of character assassination to bear fruit. So far, failure has been their reward, but the need to grow up and focus on the issues has somehow escaped them.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago
    Watch Oliver Stones Putin Interviews. Very interesting. When asked about the hacking, his response was the BEST I have heard. He said that whoever the "hackers" were, they only released what the democrats and Hillary did so that the american people could get the truth. No one claimed the 'hacked" information was UNTRUE.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 6 years, 10 months ago
    Until the administration starts actually arresting some of these prior administration people for their crimes [the e-mail server, the IRS plot to deny tax exempt status to conservative groups in the previous election cycle, unmaking Americans, leaking info to the press, just to mention a few] you are going to hear about this or whatever made up BS story they can come up with. The problem is that I doubt many Republicans have the stomach for it and in fact many of them are part of the swamp.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 6 years, 10 months ago
    As far as I'm concerned, the story can go on for the next four years. By concentrating their firepower on this issue, the left-wing media is giving less coverage to Trump's rollback of their agenda in areas such as climate change and immigration. And by harping on Russian "hacking", the media is also keeping alive the issue of the Democratic Party leadership's undermining of the Bernie Sanders campaign. That should play well with his supporters when the 2020 presidential election rolls around.
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  • Posted by wmiranda 6 years, 10 months ago
    As long as we have CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo and other fake news media with the Russian narrative marching orders, we'll have have to deal with it, and each plot will have to be turn against themselves and exposed. I'm just waiting for the GA06 election yesterday to morph into a Russian hack against a candidate that couldn't even vote for himself in the district he was running for office because he didn't even live there. Liberal logic is neither.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 10 months ago
    Strange that the story won't go away. I don't get it...
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    • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago
      its just propaganda designed to hurt the current president. Unfortunately, its expensive and keeps our government from doing good things for us, and also prevents Trump from meeting with Putin and getting better USA-Russian relations going.
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      • Posted by $ nickursis 6 years, 10 months ago
        More than propaganda, it is "agit-prop" designed to get enough people incensed that they can railroad an impeachment and get rid of him for their guy/girl/herhim.
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        • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago
          U are right. And trump is right about the witch hunt and the biased media. As much as I dislike the socialist Oliver stone, I thought his 4 hr series. THE PUTIN INTERVIEWS was pretty good. We need to enter a new relationship with Russia instead of just fighting them all the time.
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      • Posted by jetmec 6 years, 10 months ago
        Putin needs to get out of Ukraine before Trump resumes a friendly Stance!
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        • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago
          a lot of the people of ukraine and particularly crimea WANT to be part of russia for the stability it provides them. Shouldnt they be allowed to do that?
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          • Posted by jetmec 6 years, 10 months ago
            No Ukrainians want Russia!!! The people in east Ukraine and Crimea are of Russian decent, The Ukrainian and Crimean people were removed by Starlin and Russian people given there homes, land and jobs. There is also all the oil and gas in the east of Ukraine and around Crimea and Putin wants it. So please do some research before commenting
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            • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago
              Interesting. I was just responding to the election held recently in Crimea favoring returning to Russian rule. Your comment does point out why the USA should just stay out of trying to control other countries. We are better off just worrying about our own country
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 10 months ago
    As convoluted as the story has become, it is real. Remember that this began with the discovery that the Russians were into the Democrat Party computers. That raised questions about Russian influence in the campaign of Hillary Clinton. Then, the wider and fuller story came out.

    If this were 1967 or 1987, there would be no doubts about the findings of 14 US intelligence agencies.

    Every government meddles in every other government. We should not tolerate it, but it is only the XYZ Affair brought forward.
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 6 years, 10 months ago
      Not to argue, but the FBI was DENIED access to the said "hacked DNC computers". And the company who claimed they found the Russian Fingerprints (the FBI accepted at face value), had to backtrack on a similar announcement elsewhere (Ukraine I believe).

      But to be clear. I am not arguing that Russia did not muck around. The BS part is that Trump or his Team directed this, WHILE Obama knew about it, and was responsible for stopping it (He told them to Cut it out)... But it is somehow Trumps Fault?

      The message is muddied by design. There is no CRIMINALITY on the Trump campaign part here.
      What is the actual allegation involving Trump? There is none. His campaign? (Some people talked to Russians as part of their Jobs? No Crimes).

      If the Russians released the emails (and WikiLeaks says it was NOT them, and they have NEVER been proven to have lied), then ALL the Russians did was RELEASE information that the Mainstream Media would NOT release, BECAUSE the MSM was explicitly involved in helping the HRC campaign every step of the way. Including oversampling of Polls to show HRC in the lead when she may not be (Suggested by Podesta in emails to the MSM, and actually done).

      Finally, if 14 Intelligence agencies agree on something... I get suspicious.
      Last defense point: 97% of the DOJ employees who GAVE MONEY to a 2016 candidate, gave to Democrats. Hmmm... I wonder what their summary position was?

      If I were Trump. Every leak would have me OPENING a Criminal investigation into something passed (IRS, Fast&Furious, Email Server, Tarmac Meeting). They announce a Leak, I announce and start a new investigation.
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      • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago
        why would trump even get involved. Whoever hacked into the DEm's conputers was just releasing all the crap that they and hillary were involved in. I never heard hillary complain that the leaked stuff was not genuine.
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      • Posted by $ nickursis 6 years, 10 months ago
        Captain, I agree with you 100%, many things echo what I have thought on this mess. It stinks like bad fish, but anything the DNC gets near does, with the RNC a close second. The money thing should be a red flag to show that there is no "non-partisan" departments anymore, nor is ethics an issue either. All of the criminal acts you state SHOULD be investigated, and add Loretta for her coverup and denial of Hillary's criminal activity. He should have a shopping list of lawyers who support him, and others who can be used every time, and just have a stack of envelopes with the subject on it.."Here, you take the Tarmac"..Here, you take the IRS"...and do a televised announcement each time. Maybe we can kill off a few of the worst offenders with heart attacks and nervous breakdowns.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 10 months ago
      Hmmm, this is the first time I've heard there were 14 agencies. Up until now 17 was always the number cited. In any case, can anyone name all 17 (or 14) agencies and state specifically what each agencies' proof is?

      Also, if there really are that many agencies investigating the same thing, the taxpayer is surely getting screwed with all that duplication of effort and it's time 10 or 12 were axed.
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 10 months ago
        The whole "17 agencies" story is baloney. What happened was that some congressional aide found that across the board there are 17 elements of government that have a connection to intelligence gathering or analysis, and used that figure to make the dramatic claim that all knew Trump was in collusion with the Russians. Some of those agencies have no responsibility for the type of collection and analysis that would allow them to even make any statement on the Russia interference claim. I used to support one of those agencies, the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency (NGA, one of those agencies most people have never heard of), which controls data collection systems like spy satellites and makes the information available to other intelligence services. NGA never makes any statements about human intelligence (HUMINT), and would not have any position on the Trump-Russia issue.

        I agree there are entirely too many agencies involved in spy work, and it is a massive duplication of effort that wastes taxpayer dollars. Worse yet, many of these agencies continue to have jurisdictional squabbles, and are reluctant to share information, even after the establishment of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), to whom all agencies are supposedly subordinate. The agencies hide information from each other by excessive compartmentalization, limiting the number of people who have a "need to know." Some serious revisions are badly needed.
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        • Posted by $ nickursis 6 years, 10 months ago
          Doc, one thing I have yet to reconcile, is, if they knew all this, had all this evidence, why did they do nothing until AFTER Trump was elected. This story was percolating around the internet back when the wiki leaks thing happened, and they blamed Russia, then they seemed to catch on to the "Russia bad" idea and it just seemed to grow like an amoeba. The only I heard was that Obama supposedly called Putin to yell at him and say "stop it" and that is it. Yet now it is "Impeachable" material? I would think it would be Obama and his gang that should be impeached then, since they supposedly knew and did nothing, then they also had the responsibility to safeguard our systems which they also supposedly failed miserably at.
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          • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 10 months ago
            If you've been watching the congressional testimony lately, Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee have been asking these exact same questions of former Obama executives, like Jeh Johnson, former DHS Secretary. Their answer as to why they didn't make a big deal about Russian hacking was that they didn't want to erode the American voters' trust in the election process.

            The fact is that the Democrats were dead certain that Hillary would crush Trump by a big margin, and they didn't want to lend credence to his claims that he suspected the election was rigged, which might cast doubt on her victory. After they overcame their shock of the Trump win, they decided it might be possible to twist the story to make it look like the Russians did rig the election to favor Trump, with his approval.

            As it stands now, not one of those "17 agencies" testifying before House and Senate verified that there was any coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russians, so the whole story was manufactured BS. Further, not one of those agencies supported the claim that the President tried to get the Russia investigations stopped, so the claim of obstruction of justice is unsupported as well.

            There are hints that the Independent Counsel and his team may be looking into Obama administration misbehavior as well as finishing up the Trump rumors. Real obstruction of justice by former AG Loretta Lynch, felony leaking of classified information by numerous persons (not just Comey). This may turn out tom be one of those "be careful what you ask for" situations.
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            • Posted by $ nickursis 6 years, 10 months ago
              Doc, I would certainly hope so, if someone was actually held accountable, it would go a long way towards settling things down, not a scapegoat, but a real accounting for their misdeeds. I do not have a lot of hope for anything but a made up assault on Trump, but I will have to wait and see what transpires.
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