Climate Change Prediction About The Pacific Northwest Embarrassingly Bad

Posted by  $  allosaur 1 year, 1 month ago to Science
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Not all that long ago, some snowflaky climate change alarmists lamented, "Oh, no! It will be the end of snow!"
Remember hearing that?
One thing is for sure. You won't be hearing about increases of Pacific Northwest snow from the lib lamestream media.
The same goes for what I wrote in a previous post concerning new climate change findings about the sun and the earth's orbiting relationship to the sun and the orbits of other planets.
Another thing is certain. "Global warming" was tossed out in exchange for "climate change" for a very important reason.
Whatever happens to the climate will be falsely blamed on mankind's use of fossil fuels and protein be damned livestock flatulence.
That reminds me. I have steaks in the freezer and an outdoor grill to put to use. Got charcoal too. Yay!
Nothing like the tasty flavor of good ole' smoked meat!

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  • Posted by ProfChuck 1 year, 1 month ago
    I know this a difficult concept but climate change "science" does not have to be real. All that is required if it is to be useful as a political tool is that it believed and feared. Climate science is extraordinarily complex and our modeling systems border on the chaotic. It is not reasonable to expect them to have useful accuracy as predictive mechanisms. In any chaotic analysis the outcome is extremely sensitive to even the slightest variations in input. This opens the door to "cherry picking" analytical results. Something political "scientists" are very good at.
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  • Posted by Joseph23006 1 year, 1 month ago
    In the prehistory of "warming', there was the threat of a new ice age; but we had had some really nasty winters. All the imperical data collected since accurate records were kept "proved" it! There were hints that temperature samples indicated temperatures were rising, neglecting to mention that many of those samples were taken near heat producing areas or or close to cooling systems?
    Along came Al (the bore) Gore, and the computer projection, the infamous hockey stick, which yielded the same results no matter what information was put in it, humm. He was out selling indugences for the sin of leaving a carbon footprint; he placed his jackboot on the neck of every man, woman, and child from his guzzling SUV and private plane!. Did the marchers on Earth Day metion six inches of snow in Denver and a couple of feet in the mountains? How about the Antarctic ice which is thicker than has ever been measured in modern times.
    Between 800 and 1300 the northern hemisphere got warmer than te predictors claim is coming, Greenland was "green", now frozen Vineland grew grapes and made wine, the dark ages ended in the Renaissance! Cold people are depressed and try to survive, warm people are happy and enjoy life. The warmers are in their own ice age and want to make evey one else as miserable as they are!
    Now it's time to fire up the grill, 1" steak, grilled asparagus, and baked potato crisped with the high heat of the charcoal!
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 1 month ago
    Charcoal, hickory chips, and red meat!
    Let's have a Gulch BBQ!
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    • Posted by  $  1 year, 1 month ago
      Not today. A wave of thunderstorms are en route and already in Alabama with a dinky vanguard storm raining on me right now, according to the weather radar I just looked up.
      Tomorrow will be okay after 8 AM due to a prediction. Good, the pollen will be washed out of the air..
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      • Posted by  $  Dobrien 1 year, 1 month ago
        Glad you had no problems with the weather.
        Tough day for some with that front.
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        • Posted by  $  1 year, 1 month ago
          Wow, I can see my area lucked out today, which has had its share of tornado scares with some serious damage and deaths. Floods are not much of a problem here.
          I've noticed that there actually IS another line of storms headed this way. It should be here any time now, according to the weather radar.
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          • Posted by  $  Dobrien 1 year, 1 month ago
            It is pouring rain 37* here now nothing severe though and I see snow from Kansas to south western Minnesota on the national radar.
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            • Posted by  $  1 year, 1 month ago
              Thought I'd check the radar and back here while working on my novel. I'll likely be asleep when that dragging along weather system gets around to passing over.
              My ex when married to her used to marvel over how I could "don't bother me" sleep through rough weather. I'd tell her I needed to arrive 15 minutes before my 6AM shift at the prison so I could catch the supervisor's briefing.
              Knowing what was up with the admin memo writers and certain assorted inmates was kinda freaking useful during my 21-year career as a corrections officer.
              There were three prestige jargon terms to always look for in an admin level memo: utilize, facilitate and implement.
              Ah, I notice it is raining now. I may have heard a rumble of distant thunder but I'm not all that sure..
              Yes, I'm sipping wine.
              Whoa! I for sure jusr heard distant thunder!
              Bring it on!
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 1 year, 1 month ago
    I notice the big climate change global warming gathering in Colorado got postponed due to a blizzard. Karma?
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    • Posted by  $  AJAshinoff 1 year, 1 month ago
      It warmed unnaturally somewhere else on earth which triggered this event in Colorado.

      There's always a way to interpret things which is why the eco-nuts need the vague "climate change" label more than the specific warming or cooling.
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 1 year, 1 month ago
        I suppose next we'll hear about the "butterfly effect," where in imaginative speculation a flutter of a butterfly's wing in the wrong direction or sequence can set off an unforeseen sequence of events that results in a catastrophic happening. The application is that any countervailing evidence to the human effects on climate can't foresee every circumstance, so we have to assume the most frightening outcome.

        Proponents of unexpected/unlikely events rely on the bell curve, where there's always a statistical probability of the most improbable result, however minute.

        The flaw in the butterfly proposition is that it assumes physical events are like a nuclear chain reaction, with runaway uncontrollable results. In the real world, there are dampening effects and opposing reactions that make the butterfly concept as near impossible as can be.
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  • Posted by chad 1 year, 1 month ago
    As my communist daughter put it, "What if despite all their mistakes or guesses they are right. It is such a serious question wouldn't it be better to be wrong than risk the consequences?" She studies math and I asked her how many 'ifs' can be in an equation before the results are considered worthless? Her reply; "Well there are a lot of ifs in the models, but still the consequences of doing nothing in the face of such a serious threat would be a grave mistake." She did not reply to the question that models are worthless.
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    • Posted by Lucky 1 year, 1 month ago
      It is known as the precautionary principle.
      To follow it, you need to buy insurance against any real or imagined threat.
      No project would ever go ahead,
      and it ignores the consequences of doing nothing.
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    • Posted by  $  1 year, 1 month ago
      Me dino ain't gonna talk about your daughter, chad.
      I have a communist brother. Fortunately, he is but one of four brothers of mine.
      Another brother is so right wing, he refuses to admit we lost the Vietnam War.
      I can see how one could police action split hairs on that subject--but c'mon! South Korea wasn't conquered.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 1 year, 1 month ago
    The entire "Climate Change" business is pure B.S. I'm already knee-deep in it via the Washington outhouse, and since this is a minor issue I don't think it's worth bothering about.
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    • Posted by  $  1 year, 1 month ago
      When Loretta Lynch agreed with some attorney generals to persecute man-made climate change deniers, me dino really felt rankled by that.
      There are libs who actually think such use of free speech should a jailing offense.
      Due to those reasons and others, this has become a big time pet peeve of mine.
      The unexpected election of the Trumpster may have saved the day but The People's Climate Change Pinheads are still out there marching.
      Me dino wanna throw mud at 'em! All day long! All day long!
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  • Posted by  $  1 year, 1 month ago
    Me dino just found this in my email~
    "The People's Climate March" to protest Trump's climate policies has been postponed by blizzard-like conditions in Colorado.
    "The People's anything" sounds kinda commie to me, but then there there it is.
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    • Posted by  $  Suzanne43 1 year, 1 month ago
      This was a good laugh. I thought about the march when my niece wrote to tell me that her son's baseball game and her daughter's prom were going to be postponed because of a snowstorm. Just when you think there is no God, there really is. And to some of you in the Gulch, no religious offense is meant.
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      • Posted by  $  1 year, 1 month ago
        Tomorrow is the May Day of the ye olde USSR annual Bolshevik celebration of paraded tanks and towed missiles, but wannabe commies can't march with signs in Colorado.
        What a shame. Tee-hee.
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  • Posted by  $  puzzlelady 1 year, 1 month ago
    In a recent discussion elsewhere, a very wise friend recalled learning in high school that Svante Arrhenius had calculated, in 1896, the global warming effect of increased CO2 and that humans can, in fact, impact it. Here's a verse that story inspired:


    A savant from Sweden by name of Arrhenius
    About CO2 made no guesses erroneous.
    In eighteen hundred ninety-six he found
    How temperature ranges could be bound.

    That fascinating Swedish reference
    Will challenge mankind’s climate preference:
    To warm the globe and grow more crops
    Or chill it till the temperature drops.

    Before the human proliferation
    Earth did its own obliteration
    With hot and cold and wet and dry
    To see what critters would live and die.

    Can our bright scientific thinkers
    Like Svante who with gases tinkers
    Re-engineer the planet’s stasis
    To be life’s permanent oasis?

    Evolution copes with change erratic
    While comfort craves conditions static.
    Yet all that holds our species here
    Is this flimsy layer of atmosphere.

    The comfort seekers don’t deny
    That change is happening. They rely
    On automatic fixes that don’t require
    They change any habit or desire.

    And should the surface flood or freeze,
    Its innards burst and boil its seas,
    And space detritus come raining in,
    Will our smarter minds learn how to win?

    It would be a pity, don’t you think,
    For humans to vanish in a blink
    When a million years of patient gain
    Produced nature’s triumph, the reasoning brain?

    And if we can’t manage to stay alive,
    At least the microbes will survive
    In thermal vents and glacier bands,
    In bogs and swamps and desert sands,

    Midst noxious fumes, in airless caves,
    On gale-force winds and battering waves.
    Microorganisms will prevail.
    Will they rebuild us? There hangs the tale.
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  • Posted by  $  Stormi 1 year, 1 month ago
    Oh, yes red meat on the grill, like your style! You likely worry the UN Gods of no red meat goal, calling it "unsustainable" - isn't everything? Climate change is such an stupid mantra for them to use, as climate always has changed from before modern society! It feels like winter in the Midwest this week, likely due to government manipulation using crushed clay and ice pellets. Funny how libs never mention these government programs, or blame them. This one is to block the suns's rays.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 1 year, 1 month ago
    If we're into making $hit up because we wish it were true, I'd like a thread dedicated to all the rationalizations we could think of as to why evidence showing Taco Bell health risks are not real. One time I ate Taco Bell and ran a 10k, when alarmists said I would have a heart attack. 30 years ago they said all fats were bad, and if we could suck them out of foods we'd be healthier. That resulted in worse health outcomes, so now it's just certain fats. How can you trust scientists when they change their story every time they find new evidence? Pick a story and stick to it. Mine is Taco Bell and Xanax are good for me. And there's a righteous god up in the sky looking down on me with my grandparents. I like the notion of a natural foods (except for Taco Bell), so contrary to all the evidence, maybe GMOs are dangerous and local organic food is better. I know the evidence disagrees with that, but we're making stuff up, right? 25% of GDP goes to the gov't, so I'm sure everything I don't like in life is on occasionally studied by the gov't, so we can dismiss it on that basis. Then we just go to the abstracts of fields we don't understand, find things that don't look right, maybe something about how concentration of sodium and potassium are regulated in the body, and then work it into a narrative that it's the stuff they don't wantcha to know. The salt in Taco Bell isn't really bad for us. Homeopathic medicine could cure high blood pressure and whatever ails you better than "Western" medicine.

    I see one rejection of reality no worse than the next.
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