Early Monroe, Mansfield and a host of pin up art from the era on calendars and other garage wall decorations. You can still find some today but extremely rare.

Based on the track record, hindsight isn't part of their makeup either.

Ala Jane Russell?

Yes it absolutely must be considered. The people coming here are used to oppression. So for them to follow along like the sheep they have been taught to be, is no stretch.

I disagree. This would be another way to strengthen an already overbearing, centralized government. It would also make it easier for our govt. to entangle us in foreign military adventurism and empire building. Do you really want to supply arms and training to people who already break our laws and raise their native flag over American soil as an act of defiance? The problem is not illegal aliens. The problem is the welfare/warfare state. Those coming here to seek gainful employment would lose incentive to come here if we didn't have a welfare state rewarding so many American citizens for being lazy. Those on the handouts would be forced to take the menial labor jobs now performed by non-citizens. Stop the "War on Drugs" and violent/criminal enterprises lose their monopoly because then anyone can supply that demand. Just like no one goes to a den of criminals to buy a bottle of whiskey anymore.

And it shows.

Loved that touch.

Excellent points.

I prefer the cheesecake of the late 50's. Much sexier in those days.

Three m's and an e? Really??? I never knew.

No, I think he got it right, we are boarding them here in the US. Except we are paying the board, not them. That means CBP means Customs and Boarder Protection.
Cheers

Hahaha, arrrrooooooo!! Want some cheesecake with that?

And would these aliens be serving the people or the dear leader who let them in? The Constitution or the fuhrer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXcWQrhzl...

I haven't said anything about compulsion. Everything I have discussed refers to volunteering in return for a reward. It could be argued in the case of illegal aliens that a degree of compulsion exists since the alternative is deportation. However, anyone would be free to refuse.

Similarly, no one is "compelled" to take or hold a job. The benefits of doing so, however, lead most of us to do so voluntarily.

Dave, et. al.
Let's start with a [unfortunately, truncated] etymology lesson. Look at the root words for "service" - related, in the Latin, to "slave"
If it's service and you have to do it, you are either under 18 years old and living in your parents' home, or a slave.
Not for me.

Another point from Neil Smith - in his alternate universe, their version of Congress was meeting when what was the Second Wold War in our universe began. There was a vote to send aid, people, stuff. It failed unanimously. Then, again, unanimously, the entire Congress took a leave of absence to go and fight the bad guys.

I still believe that [at least many] people will do the right thing, given the chance. Compelling one to do 'the right thing' assumes that the end justified the means. It doesn't.

Time to have grandma for lunch.

The sergeant who "Starship Troopers" main character speaks to when he goes in to sign up says something along the lines of: "and we HAVE to find a job for you" and refers to someone who is physically unable to do nothing but move beans from one box to another or some such.....and who was allowed to "perform service". Yes, I believe the primary mode of service was military, as indicated by the desk sergeant with three missing limbs whose job was, basically, to make joinees think about what they were doing.

There was another nice touch in "Starship Troopers": the first thing every enlistee does is go on 48 hours leave. And if they don't come back, nothing happens. Except that they never get another chance.

government functions with knee jerk reaction. those employed by government have zero to lose if the f--- up and they do on a continual basis. foresight is not a part of their vocabulary.

Only instead of Nero fiddling while Rome burns

We have the Obama fund raising while wiping his ass with the Constitution as the economy craters

Darn, the grammmer police are here :)