Teaching Kids About Electric Chairs

Posted by $ Abaco 7 years, 2 months ago to Education
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I thought I'd share and get opinions on what you think about this. A couple nights ago I was driving home with me 11-year old son in the car. He goes to a very good charter school. It's Montessori-based, which I really like. Note that Montessori prides itself on promoting peace. Well, he starts asking me about how electric chairs work in executing people, "Do they twitch?" I asked him where he heard of this and he reported to me that he read about the US executing two spies for espionage (you know the story, I'm sure) and how they were killed via electric chair. I asked how he got that paper and he said, "It wasn't my teacher. It was from the school, though." So, I followed up with the teacher and, sure enough, it was a document given to these kids to cover history. They are teaching little kids about people getting executed via electric chair for spying on Ingsoc (my editorial there). This irks me. I find it pretty sick. My next step is bringing it up with the principal. Somebody needs to explain to me why this is good curricula. My buddy said, "Teaching them not to cross Big Brother at a young age..."


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  • Posted by rtpetrick 7 years, 2 months ago
    I don't think this has anything to do with INGSOC and 1984.
    Truth is truth and our history is our history.
    Execution by electric chair is part of our history.
    The reality of our system of government is that traitors and spies sometimes die for their crimes. This is not unique to America. It happens in most countries. So, should our children be shielded for this reality? I don't think so.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      I agree with you. What I don't agree with is the age of the kids being taught this stuff. Now, this week, he was given a history reader at school that talked about hanging people. I'm not a sensitive guy about that stuff. The problem is how this information is dolled out to the little school kids. I find it creepy. For example, at what age do we teach kids about waterboarding? 8? It's worthy of discussion.

      I think back about something an old colleague of mine once said. He was a very bright guy. "Abaco. You only get one childhood. And, when it's gone it's gone."
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      • Posted by rtpetrick 7 years, 2 months ago
        I remember learning about hangings of murderers and rustlers in the Hollywood westerns that I saw as a kid in the 50s...maybe 9 or 11 years old. I don't think I was necessarily indoctrinated, but I did learn a certain respect for the law. But that's me. I think the kids today have to grow up faster than I needed to in my day. For example,protecting their self-esteem by awarding participation trophies prevents children from learning how to deal with losing. Perhaps this is why those who do not accept President Trump as president feel justified in rioting and destroying property today. Back in my childhood, I learned that one of worst crimes one could commit was to murder a police officer. Today, that notion seems to be lost on certain groups of youths. It seems that kids today are much more at risk related to sexual predators.
        So, if 11 years old is too young to learn about the history of electric chair executions or the other brutal realities of life in America, what age would you suggest?
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 7 years, 2 months ago
    While I am unsure that the teaching specifically about the electric chair is beneficial. It is a historical fact and to mention what happened without elaborating beyond the mention of it is reasonable. I have shown the well known video clip of Edison electrocuting an elephant, when covering Edison and Tesla, It really comes down to context. Death is a fact of life and while children should not be showered in it neither should they be sheltered from it either.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 7 years, 2 months ago
    I don't know if this is an early indoctrination to the fight to eliminate capitol punishment, or if it's to scare kids into staying away from crime...curious.

    Being a charter school, I find it hard to believe that there is a political cause behind this, but it does bear close inspection by caring parents.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 2 months ago
    I haven't thought about this in years but now I recall a Fifth Grade experience due to its shock value during the Fifties.
    Can't recall what the discussion was about but a class clown named Stewart something tells the female middle-aged teacher that he's been reading his" big brother's book about torture."
    Stewart tells the teacher that American Indians "would strip you naked and stake you down over an ant bed."
    Meanwhile the teacher looks at Stewart with an appalled will you please just disappear look on her face.
    I recall holding my breath, wondering what the teacher would do and what Stewart would say next.
    Best I can recall Stewart piped down and the teacher just ignored him.
    I still wonder if the teacher called Stewart's parents, since I'm doing that right now once again after many years have gone by. .
    And why am I laughing about this for the first time ever? Well, I never told anyone this story before.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      Haha...yeah, the things we remember.

      I remember a bible study I used to attend when I was about 12. It was on Wednesday afternoons at my friend's house - him mom would be the teacher. I'm still in touch with him and his mother passed about a year ago - great lady. Anyway, the teacher asked the group what a sin was. A little guy about 5 or 6 years old pipes up "playing with your penis in the bathtub!" and we all started laughing, even the teacher.

      Man, those were simpler times. No cell phones. All of our parents drove big steel cars from Detroit. We all could afford the annual family vacation. The good old days.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 2 months ago
    If their goal is to teach them "not to cross Big Brother" I think they would pick a different case. A case where possibly one innocent person was executed and possibly as a tactic to put pressure on her husband does not seem like a case that promotes state power.

    I would not want them teaching that to my 8 y/o. At some point they have to learn the facts, but 8 y/o feels too young. I only have experience with kids up to age 8, so I don't have a feel for what an 11 y/o can handle.

    Am I correct that you're saying the school provided factually correct information, but perhaps at too young an age?
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      Thanks for your input. I get it. I do think this age is a bit young for this...a bit morbid IMO.

      I had a talk, again, with my son last night about my approach to navigating education. In short - know the truth but know when to act stupid. Haha....
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