Progressive Columnist: Riots Are Hurting Our Cause

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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Granted this columnist has awakened somewhat; BUT!...why do progressives; communist and marxist by nature, (if not way under qualified to govern anything; including their own lives), embrace rules for radicals and Violent Protest?:

“The direct costs of violent protests are fairly self-evident. People who may not have anything to do with the underlying grievances get injured or killed, their livelihoods are impaired, the communities in which the rioting takes place suffer property damage that can linger for decades, and the inevitable police response creates new dangers for innocent bystanders.”

Oh...so next time they will bake us cake and cookies so we will vote for them and not against them.
This isn't a protest...it's just a chance to act up!...those that act this way do not know the issues except the issuance of a paycheck from georgie sorass...

“It is surely the case that some positive social reforms have emerged in response to rioting. … But the question is not whether rioting ever yields a productive response, but whether it does so in general. Omar Wasow, an assistant professor at the department of politics at Princeton, has published a timely new paper studying this very question. And his answer is clear: Riots on the whole provoke a hostile right-wing response. They generate attention, all right, but the wrong kind.”

"Hostile right-wing response"???...how about a reasoned defense in favor of self responsive liberty!
The left operates from a false premise, learned from false and revised history, from a misguided, misunderstood stance of all the values collected by our forefathers in constructing America.

"Many Americans simply want to go about their quiet lives and accept change as it slowly comes."

What!...do You go about your daily routine accepting "liberal or harmful" change as it slowly comes?

I don't...maybe I missed something...


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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No but having studied western mans venture into self introspection, (consciousness) I am aware of the going's on during that time.
    Yes recognizing that "something" brought about existence and that it wasn't some weird creature, the moon,a star or a planet...only, even with their new awareness they still stuck to the meme of the time and expressed it mystically.
    You'd be surprised to find that a whole lot of natural and unusual things were happening at that time as well.
    The times we find ourselves now is interesting also, as far as we can tell, a grand solar minimum And rapid magnetic pole movements have not occurred at the same time.
    These things have an effect upon mans brain and health...needless to say...we are in for an interesting ride.
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  • Posted by Stormi 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So agree. I think we actually like men, while these women with their signs really seem to hate men. Maybe it is because we have expected to be equals and do our own thinking, but with love, not hatred! Ashley Judd is deranged! I know she, like Hillary have had mental issues for which both have been treated, but it was as if she were auditioning for some play, bizarre!
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 5 months ago
    No no no. Keep the revolution going! Death to Bolsheviks! We must be heard. The elections were rigged. We must take control by force.

    All you 125 lb tree hugging zealots, come get us. Demonstrate precisely why you believe the 2nd amendment is flawed with your pathetic, whining behavior.
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  • Posted by $ Seer 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Did you ever read a book titled "Before Philosophy"? It is atheistic in outlook but does admit that the Hebrew monotheistic religion seemed to be a giant step forward.

    I've also read that at about that time, maybe 600 BC or before, there was a great flowering of not just math, science and technology, but also a spiritual awakening, around the world, including even Siddartha Buddha.
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  • Posted by $ Seer 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And Haiti. Only now the "magical ones" want to refer to it as "voudon" to eliminate any bad images people may have of it.
    When the Leftist/Liberals decided never to call any people's culture "primitive" and to use "traditional" instead, it pretty much hampered any attempt to find out why some cultures advanced and others didn't.
    I believe Progressives wanted everyone to believe one culture's morals were as good as another's.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Very much like and maybe even worse, than Our biblical ancestors prior to losing the illusionary voices of the gods. (Julian Jaynes)

    Just look at the south and VOODOO!...good thing it's really Not warming or we'd be in deep doodoo voodoo!
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  • Posted by $ Seer 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Remember Vachel LIndsay's "The Congo: A Study of The Negro Race?" Magic runs all through it.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Among other "sickness" as well...

    I think there is something to that...one more piece to the whole puzzle.
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  • Posted by $ Seer 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And also, for the same reasons, they seem to have an avoidance of risk-taking, which risk-taking behavior Indo-Europeans have in full measure.
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  • Posted by $ Seer 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have the feeling---though I would never say it---that West and Central African cultures are very hedonistic--pleasure-seeking- in nature, and that type of morality is hard to let go of. Unfortunately, especially with progressive, Leftist, Liberal "teachings", it has infiltrated into American culture, not the other way around.

    I wouldn't say this either: Montesquieu came up with reasons for that (his climate theory on differences in human nature) and it boiled down mainly to the fact that in his opinion the southern climes induced laziness. Now, I didn't say I agreed with that.

    But I do think those regions of the world had, and still have, more exposure to diseases, and thus the people developed a rigidity of sorts. That one must always follow certain "protocols"---in the form of magic and ritual---in order to stave off disease. That any departure from these routines caused more sickness to result.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Correct.
    What the "World order" of idiots don't understand is that just exposing them to western civilization via "multiculturalism" will not work, and has never worked. It is a competence in a language that is "chock full of heavenly" Metaphors that awakens them...that's how mankind began to awaken and that's how they can wake up and smell the desire for self regulated liberty, inventiveness and free market benefits also. (English pretty much does that, the english language encompasses all the worlds great languages and their metaphors).
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  • Posted by $ Seer 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    India did benefit in some ways from the British Raj, and were hurt by it in others.

    The Near and Middle East and Asia Minor are a different story.

    West and Central and East Africa? There was exposure throughout the last 2 millenia to both Islamic culture and Christian culture, yet not much of the good in those cultures seems to have taken root.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Bad as "colonialism" in some circumstances was, there is a part of the theory that might be valid. The idea of bringing civilization to countries that really don't have much of a civilization is a good thing...the middle east comes to mind here. The society itself has not ascended into "Conscious" behavior and are Stuck in the pagan ancient ways. They were way too behind to play a part in the global world stage. Another example would be the tribes in Africa also.
    WAIT!...however, I am sure this view was a minority view from the few sentient conscious humans that took part in the effort.
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  • Posted by Seer 8 years, 5 months ago
    Just read the article. Well, most of it. He or they didn't even bother to say "protests" or "demonstrations"; just plain admitted they were riots.
    And then acted as if he or they had just come up with some really original and innovative thoughts.

    But as far as "civil disobedience", I have a good friend from high school who is a professor of Political Science at Gonzaga, who told me that Gandhi's method of achieving independence from Great Britain probably wouldn't have worked with any other government.

    And then Britain went and pulled out of India and let that poor divided country almost destroy itself.

    Lessons from the past.
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  • Posted by Seer 8 years, 5 months ago
    Haven't read the article yet, but wanted to add something "self-evident". Almost 230 years ago, James Madison, in the Federalist #10, said that representation tended to quell the violence of factions.

    But then that malignant 19th century European philosophical thought intervened, and I guess Liberals lost the sense of the rule of law.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Emanuel, (wasn't there a porn movie with that name?) is nothing but a modern day nimrod.
    Their Ivory towers Will fall!!!
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  • Posted by NealS 8 years, 5 months ago
    I would venture a guess that Chicago may soon see some results of a new (?) and different approach to reacting to citizens that were brought up and trained to be hostile (not an excuse, but an observation). I can't even figure out if there was any positive result of any of the hostile demonstrations that I have seen in my lifetime (mainly Watts, Vietnam, today). I relate the Vietnam demonstrations mostly to cowardice (Kerry & Fonda and many others who demonstrated), probably a wrong conclusion on my part, and probably concluded because I served in Vietnam, they didn’t. I even know why I served. It’s just my prejudiced point of view, which makes it my personal demonstration. I can see that most demonstrations seem to have been futile except for promoting opportunists like the Sharpton's of this world that make their living off extreme dissention. They would have little to do if we could figure out how to get along with those that we might disagree with or are different from us. Mostly I see nothing has changed from the majority of demonstrations, they have only ticked off more people and furthered our division. Mostly those that agree with them and support them are only lying to themselves. We have to first admit the real problem or there is nothing that can result in a peaceful solution, or any other kind of real solution. It makes no sense fighting something if you don’t truthfully and consciously understand what you are fighting, or fighting for. I cannot for the life of me understand the “leadership” of Chicago (), ignoring the truth of why people are scared to go there anymore, and doing nothing about it. It stifles Chicago’s economic growth. Every person in Chicago should be concerned that Rahm Emanuel is just seemingly another Sharpton drawing a paycheck. I have heard not even a word from him about any concern about the reputation he is allowing to be brought on his city. It hurts everyone, him being only a politician drawing a paycheck, he should be paid on commission. Of course we can blame it all on the people that live there too, after all they elect these “leaders” mostly to confirm their argument for whatever, not for what’s good for the people. Politics today has created generations of people that can’t even understand what they are voting for. It’s little more than a popularity contest anymore. Those are just my opinions, I could be wrong. I sometimes get (a little) fed up, but I have learned God’s plan. When He takes us away, it all makes sense now.

    St. louis, Detroit, Birmingham, Memphis, Milwaukee, Rockford, Baltimore, Little Rock, Oakland, Kansas City, etc.)
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