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Being Ignored Can Be a Blessing, by Robert Gore

Posted by straightlinelogic 8 years, 5 months ago to Government
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The war lobby ceaselessly conjures threats to US interests and conspiracies to dominate the world. All which must be met with US intervention—overt, covert, or both. How do you conjure a threat when a big part of the world decides to ignore you, who at best sees the US as irrelevant, at worst, a dangerous nuisance? One of life’s joys, all too rare, is telling self-important, pompous people that nobody cares what they do or say, or even if they live or die. It’s been a long time coming, but the rest of the world is starting to tell the US to keep its opinions and interventions to itself, and that’s a good thing for all concerned.

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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't agree with trying to get rid of a department
    by appointing as its head someone supposedly
    hostile to it. It would be better to simply attempt to abolish it. (Not that Trump necessarily can; but he should try to get Congress to do it). Appointing a supposedly "hostile" head is like-
    ly simply to corrupt the "hostile" head of it, and
    just turn him into a statist bureaucrat.
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  • Posted by preimert1 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    FFA, re:"The only thing that has any chance of fixing the deficit is closing down entire agencies of federal government..." I think that's exactly what Trump ha in mind by some of his cabinet heads he has chosen. He plans to have them reduce their respective organizations and eventually delete them from cabinet-level posts. After all most earlier presidents only had 5 or 6. It wasn't until FDR that it began to grow. Education, energy, transportation, etc. Who needs them? Time to fall back to the Tenth Amendment.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    When I reached the "widespread support" part, I tossed up my hands and read on to cop the following attitude~
    Right, wrong, legal, illegal, supported, unsupported, to hell with this. This is not America's problem.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You should read the entire article you cite. From the article:

    UNDP in Crimea conducted series of polls about possible referendum on joining Russia with a sample size of 1200:

    Quarter Yes No Undecided
    2009 Q3[36] 70% 14% 16%
    2009 Q4[36] 67% 15% 18%
    2010 Q1[37] 66% 14% 20%
    2010 Q2[37] 65% 12% 23%
    2010 Q3[37] 67% 11% 22%
    2010 Q4[37] 66% 9% 25%
    2011 Q4[38] 65.6% 14.2% 20.2%

    A post-referendum survey, commissioned by John O’Loughlin, College Professor of Distinction and Professor of Geography at the University of Colorado in Boulder, and Gerard Toal (Gearóid Ó Tuathail), Professor of Government and International Affairs at Virginia Tech’s National Capital Region campus, was conducted during December 2014 by the Levada-Center, and published in Open Democracy on March 3, 2015.[40] The survey showed "widespread support for Crimea’s decision to secede from Ukraine and join the Russian Federation one year ago."

    While the authors of that survey felt and opined that Crimea’s secession was “an illegal act under international law,” they also acknowledged “It is also an act that enjoys the widespread support of the peninsula’s inhabitants, with the important exception of its Crimean Tatar population.” Despite the survey's distinction of Crimean Tatar support for accession to Russia being lower than the support from the rest of Crimea's population, the survey still found that significantly more Crimean Tatars either felt that Crimea's secession from Ukraine and accession to Russia was either the "Absolutely right decision," or the "Generally right decision," than the number of Crimean Tatars who felt that the 2014 referendum outcome was the "Wrong decision." Overall, the survey found that 84% of Crimeans felt that the choice to secede fro Ukraine and accede to Russia was "Absolutely the right decision."
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That "referendum" was a total sham. It was held with Russian soldiers' boots on the ground. It showed a 97% vote in favor of secession - a result as likely as the 97% "climate change" consensus, and in line with the results of "democratic elections" in the former Soviet Union. Voters were given 10 days notice of the election choices, which did not include the status quo prior to the Russian military intervention. For details see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean...
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 8 years, 5 months ago
    I agree with your essay. I made a similar comment about US/NATO Special Forces deployed to Poland's border with Russia. I can't believe that the government there hasn't learned their own history lesson. That also goes for many countries around the world who have been the at the mercy of outside invading military forces. When are they going to learn?
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 5 months ago
    Up until now, me dino did not know "In a referendum, Crimean citizens voted overwhelmingly to leave Ukraine and join Russia."
    Perhaps the past regime and its lock step media support hoped that quietly reported inconvenient fact would fly past unnoticed by most USA citizens.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I just noticed I made a mistake here. I thought you said "the deficit to increase by around $60 billion in FY 2018," but you said "decrease." I do not think the deficit will decrease, and in fact believe that it will continue to increase the next few years. Sorry for the confusion.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 5 months ago
    This is off point but I just have to note that Trump's inaugural address contained a passage where he bellowed "I will not ignore you!" All I could think of was "Please do."
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 5 months ago
    Not sure this is the way we should look at it, however, we do see some disturbing things:
    1) The military industrial complex making sure it stays in business.
    2) The military making sure it has something to do.
    3) The above and the CIA serving interest outside of our interests. Examples: New World Order, The Crown, The United Nations, The Central Banks, or Global Corporations..etc.
    4) We also can't forget some with a pure desire to protect innocent human life and a desire that all men be free. I would think these people would be a very small minority used by all of the above to advance their own agenda's.

    My point: I'm not all that sure that all of the Conscious world see's it the way you describe, but I'm convinced by your dissertation, that perhaps the Non-Conscious world probably does.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would be surprised if a single Democrat is willing to cut spending enough to lower the deficit that much.
    There will be some from the GOP who will vote for even more cuts than that, but I doubt if there will be more than a few. So I predict another round of congress pretending to fix the deficit in the next 4 years.
    The only thing that has any chance of fixing the deficit is closing down entire agencies of federal government and restoring free markets. At least 51% of the congress must change ethically and in guiding principles for that to happen.. Trump's recommendation of another Goldman Sachs denizen (with financial ties to George Soros) as Treasury Secretary does not bode well for ethics to win over banking cartel looting.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 5 months ago
    I agree with all parts of this article that I'm knowledgeable about. I'm not up on Syria and Ukraine, but it all rings true.

    "Putting America’s own house in order, or even making a good start, would be a full-time, eight-year endeavor for the entire Trump team, and that’s if they never take vacations or sleep."

    Yes. We'll have to make graphs of gov't spending, budget deficit, military spending, and overall debt including indirect "debt" of entitlements. If eight years is the time-table, we should aim to reduce the deficit by around 60 billion a year while separately reforming entitlements. You call this an intractable problem, but just holding gov't constant, not growing it, would solve it eight years. Do you predict the deficit to decrease by around $60 billion in FY 2018?
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    Posted by coaldigger 8 years, 5 months ago
    This is such clear and reasonable insight into current international affairs. Even on an individual basis we are better off when we are ignored. I appreciative of a government that protects me from people that want to take my stuff. I am less appreciative of a government that takes my stuff to protect me from the enemies that it created.
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