Who Influenced the Elections the Most?
Who influenced the elections? Who had the most influence? After pondering these questions for a period of time I came up with the following list:
Who influenced the Election? that would be Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump and The DNC.
Who influenced it the most? that would be Hillary Clinton then the DNC then Donald Trump.
Hillary's influence? The comment about a "Basket of Deplorables", Blatantly Lying about her e-mail problems and the semi-open collusion between her Campaign and the Main Stream Media. (And yes the DNC playing favorites in the Primaries didn't help her.)
The leaks, whether thay can from Russian Hackers or an insider are almost immaterial. It is the facts proven by the material confirmed the previous feels the voting public had about her. They had their reason for not voting for her. The reasons were multitudinous but all were there prior to the release of info by WikiLeaks. The WikiLeaks info just confirmed what was already suspected by most. You don't loose 31 states by telling the truth and being honest. You loose they by being a liar and a cheat and not trying really hard for over 30 years to hide that fact because you are a Clinton and deserve the election victory regardless of your abilities and actions.
Who influenced the Election? that would be Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump and The DNC.
Who influenced it the most? that would be Hillary Clinton then the DNC then Donald Trump.
Hillary's influence? The comment about a "Basket of Deplorables", Blatantly Lying about her e-mail problems and the semi-open collusion between her Campaign and the Main Stream Media. (And yes the DNC playing favorites in the Primaries didn't help her.)
The leaks, whether thay can from Russian Hackers or an insider are almost immaterial. It is the facts proven by the material confirmed the previous feels the voting public had about her. They had their reason for not voting for her. The reasons were multitudinous but all were there prior to the release of info by WikiLeaks. The WikiLeaks info just confirmed what was already suspected by most. You don't loose 31 states by telling the truth and being honest. You loose they by being a liar and a cheat and not trying really hard for over 30 years to hide that fact because you are a Clinton and deserve the election victory regardless of your abilities and actions.
I have a feeling that if Putin was into this, what he really wanted was to weaken Hillary's expected presidency. I dont think he expected Trump to actually win. Trump would be a more substantial adversary to Russia than lily livered Hillary would have been anyway.
I think Trump and Putin will meet and in 30 minutes get their individual agendas on the table, and agree on how we can co-exist. Not a bad outcome in my opinion.
As to wikileaks and the russians, they only showed what NEEDED to be shown to the people. I applaud them.
Speaking for myself, I thought this bribe-taking via the Clinton Foundation liar, who did at least tell the truth about a lib Supreme Court, open borders and flooding the USA with refugees, would be so bad for the country that I voted for the candidate with the best chance of defeating her.
And I'm glad he did.
She's the one cog in the Clinton machine that Hill and Bill have not fully utilized as a frontman. She is smart, smarter than Hillary and possibly smarter than Bill. If she has the desire and drive, I think she may become effective candidate in the future. If she wants to be one.
I truely hope I'm wrong and we never hear another peep out of anybody named Clinton.
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if I were paid to listen to it instead of me paying
her.
Obama's Legacy = TRUMP
ident rather than Hillary Clinton? Isn't she more of
a Socialist and therefore more in accord with them?
And anyway, from what I have heard from the
news, there is no evidence of the Russians having messed with the voting machines, or the
tabulating machines. So how could the Russians
actually make any American voters vote for
one candidate rather than another? I know they
didn't make me do it.--Not that I like Trump's
meeting and getting chummy with Putin. That's one thing I despise.
How many spineless Republicans would not support him? They took an oath to support the nominee and most did not. The Establishment GOP will be gone soon if they don't change their ways..
We used to be a nation with manners, but now, all we have is a bunch of professional politicians that will use almost any means necessary to win. Most don't care for us, most just want the power.
Who in their right mind could not see in Hillary's eyes that she wanted the Presidency and she would sacrifice family members on an altar if it meant getting to sit in the White House.
Most of the politicians use polls to base their stand on, not what's right for the country.
America has finally had enough.
Compared to the effects of every other player in the game, the influence of trump was absolutely enormous - one way or the other.
The vile Queen of Corruption, Hillary the Congenital Liar was a candidate up with which I could not put.
As for me, I was about to vote for Gary Johnson when Vlad Putin, himself, climbed right up my leg, grabbed my arm, and forced me to connect the arrow parts (what we do in California) next to Trump's name. That's how I voted for Trump and Pence.
The first thing I thought when I heard Trump had picked Mike Pence for his running mate was that if Trump died in office and was succeeded by Pence, that would be the tenth president with a monosyllable last name.
"Onward through the fog!" :-)
I think the deciding factor was how the media and debates made Trump look like the underdog. They kept milking that embarrassing tape of a private conversation and calling it talk about "sexual assault". In the third debate they asked Clinton a few questions about the e-mail issue. She didn't directly answer, and they let it go after two questions. They asked Trump if he committed "sexual assault" several times. Trump didn't directly answer, and they wouldn't let it go.
I thought the email issue and embarrassing tape issue were not important. On these two unimportant issues, they hounded Trump harder. It was almost like they were trying to corner him into saying, "I am not rapist," a soundbite that would have been played over and over like "I'm not a crook!" He rightly wouldn't give them the lurid quote they wanted. I felt sympathetic toward Trump in that exchange, even though I have a positive view of Clinton, have a negative view of Trump, and think the tapes showed a flaw in Trump's character.
This was IMHO a politically-incorrect truth. The deplorables did indeed go for Trump. Trump was slow to disavow them. She was right in this claim. She was hoping reasonable people wouldn't abide being in the same group with them. It partly worked, but not enough to win the electoral college.
I don't know if it was half; a significant share.
" reasonable people do not base their vote on the "groups" they are allegedly associating with."
Rational people don't, but most political rhetoric is irrational.
"Hillary's whole campaign was based on identity politics and "groupthink", and it rightfully failed."
Trump's campaign had more identity politics, which caused him to get millions of votes fewer than Clinton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzTS...
Trump got millions of votes fewer than Clinton because his focus was on electoral votes. He would have run a very different campaign if popular votes were to decide the winner. At the very least he would have campaigned in California and cut into Clinton's lopsided lead there.
In some ways Trump's campaign managers are smarter than those of us in the Gulch who still waste resources answering CG's irrational posts. Total waste of time. He didn't learn in 4 years of Obama and voted for him a second time. He didn't learn in 8 years of Obama and voted for Hitlery. Great example of modern political brainwashing. Still in denial and ignoring Hitlery's unethical traitorous actions.
I was trying to say I generally agree with Clinton's claim that a significant share of Trump's support came from "deplorables", although I do not know if it's 50%. I think the claim is generally a politically-incorrect truth.
I would also point out another revelation from the hacked emails: that the DNC had paid for people to violently disrupt several of Trump's events and then paid people to blame it on Trump and his supporters. So the very "deplorables" you reference are in fact Democrats.
The KKK? A Democrat construct. Islamophobia? Nothing more than rational self-interest. Xenophobia? National sovereignty.
Shall I go on?
originated and populated by Democrats rather than
Republicans.