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Good Riddance, Mr. Obama, by Robert Gore

Posted by straightlinelogic 7 years, 3 months ago to Government
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Barack Obama was not the worst president in US history. That honor goes to Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who was dead before most of us were born. Any education in history threatens to shed light on present conditions, so it’s been eliminated from curricula, replaced with pandering propaganda. Proper instruction would teach that FDR effected the sea change that transformed the US from a melting pot of mostly self-confident, self-reliant, marvelously competent individuals into a bankrupt welfare and warfare state, the majority of whose citizens are jumpy at their own shadows, afraid of their fellow citizens, and terrified of their politicians. Mr. Obama has merely been mop-up relief for the welfare-warfare team’s starter, FDR.

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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 7 years, 3 months ago
    Hello straightlinelogic,
    "His tactic was breathtakingly simple: use the government’s failures to expand the government." I submit that this tactic has long legs and has been adopted many times by the statists. Creating a problem allows them to justify more statist action thus creating more "unintended" consequences, requiring more intervention.. Rinse and repeat... ad infinitum... until the inevitable collapse. It is the unavoidable, inevitable story of empire building. Jefferson knew of the perils- "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, & government to gain ground."
    There are so many reputable books available now that clearly contradict the unearned elevation of near hero/savior status of FDR. And, yet it is still the predominant propaganda we were all fed decades ago by statist historians that dominate the thinking of the majority of citizens. The only good that FDR did was sign the 20th amendment/repeal the 18th amendment. :) Buuurp!
    Obama was definitely cut from the same cloth. Yes, good riddance.

    Always a pleasure reading your work SLL.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 3 months ago
      Hi Objectiveanalyst,
      Well said, what comes to mind is regarding the contradiction about FDR, here in accord with you. "By the essence and nature of existence, contradictions cannot exist.”
      — Hugh Akston
      Regards,
      DOB
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 3 months ago
    Greetings Mr. Robert Gore,
    Thanks for the graphic illustration . I am also guilty of claiming
    Oblame-all as the worst President. Well we sure have had a string of vile repugnant kakistocrats.
    In my life, I first learned of the tremendous JFK from an adoring media and as time past, his morals and fraudulent election were revelations.
    Than LBJ what a creep. Was he capable of participating in an assassination? I wouldn't be shocked. Nixon , I think he was in over his head
    The military money machine( Kissinger) and his deplorable Intelligence pals they were the frauds.
    From what I've come to believe were derived from Dulles and the Rockefeller CFR. Carter was like a disease to the economy. +1 for Reagan 1st term,
    Having Bush as Vp was big mistake. Fast forward to today. The open mendacity of virtually everything regarding Obama. His narcissism, the castigation of producers. IRS as his weapon , Al Sharpton as a White House advisor...wtf. His loud vituperation to "deniers" of AGW. Aggressive fed land grab all right before our seeing and understanding eyes.
    The others before him at least pretended to care about the middle class or producers.
    Another great hero like yourself spreading truth of our history was Norman Dodd . Crediting Roosevelt as the birth of the end may well be right although the holding hands ,the courting , the first kiss ,second base all led to the copulation that enabled a birth in the first place. The Carnegie institute for world peace had the funds and the plan to place Wilson and his secretary of war. Their meeting min.s explain what has occurred
    All According to their plan.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz-ouH2MRfQ
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  • Posted by richrobinson 7 years, 3 months ago
    Another great article Robert. It was years after I graduated that I took the time to read more about Roosevelt and other Presidents. I have a much different opinion of them now than I did then. I would include in the criticisms of FDR his inability to give up power. By his fourth term it was known he would most likely not survive another 4 years especially with all the stress that office brings. I don't feel the need to rank the Presidents from worst to first. I group them and FDR, Obama, LBJ, Wilson and others belong to a group that should be exposed for their failure to follow the Constitution. I voted Trump and hope things will change. At the very least we are seeing a long list of Republicans and Democrats that clearly want nothing to change.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 7 years, 3 months ago
    posted to facebook and forwarded to my many email friends....excellent surmise...and the mention of Wilson for creating the Fed...the entity that will collapse Western civilization...
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years, 3 months ago
    While Obama may not be the worst President, I do believe he has been the most supremely arrogant. Accepting the Nobel Peace Prize even before he'd taken office, based on no accomplishments but his "potential" was a big warning sign of his unmatched hubris.

    Every one of Obama's speeches have been about himself, with the words I, me, my, mine used more than in any other President's speeches. When the American people clearly were not in agreement with his position, he chalked it up to them being unable to understand, needing more explanation.

    For one of the most voluble Presidents in history, his speeches have largely been forgettable, with few memorable phrases. Some of his speeches have been staggering in overblown self imagery, such as the one he made bragging about his pending actions on climate change, where he pronounced that history would mark this as the day the seas began to recede, as though he was a new Moses.

    Obama skipped dictator, skipped monarch, and went straight to deity, in his own mind. More infallible than the Pope, thwarted by only those evil minions of hellfire, the Republicans. He will not be missed.
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    • Posted by walkabout 7 years, 3 months ago
      Well stated. It is critical that we keep laughing at BHO. Typically, the conservative side of political reality "moves on" (as the Bubba WH encouraged us all those years ago and, unfortunately Dubya, moved on). History IS on our side -- Socialism in all it's forms (Democratic Socialism, Marxism, Fascism, etc.) DOES NOT WORK. Unfortunately, after Reagan we let the left write the narrative. I am hopeful the tweeter in chief will continue to react to every little piece of "historical" BS put out by the other side. If there is a use for the Dept. of Education it would be to mandate that education be educational, not misinformative. Glory in Eurocentric (Western) ideas that have created the best world culture we could hope for (ended slavery in the Western world -- it still exists almost everywhere else -- crushed the third Reich, empowered women and minorities, repelled the first Muslim invasion of the West, Created a few small pockets of civilization in Africa and parts of "the East" etc.
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  • Posted by walkabout 7 years, 3 months ago
    A beginning to undoing the damage done by the statists (Wilson, FDR, BHO, etc.) is proposed here as an amendment to the Constitution. (There are several others designed to reign in power, but this one most works to address Mr. Gore's concerns. Article 7; Section 1: We hereby stipulate that all laws passed by the Congress of the United States and signed into law by the President of the United State or which became law through constitutional procedures without the President's signature shall become null and void after a period of fifteen years'
    Section 2: We hereby stipulate that all laws passed by the Congress of the United States and signed into law by the President of the United States or which became law through constitutional procedures without the President's signature prior to the passage of this document shall be randomly assigned a numerical value from one to fifteen. Beginning in the second year after ratification of this amendment the laws numbered one through fifteen shall, with each subsequent year, become null and void.
    Section 3: Excepting Amendments one through ten (the “Bill of Rights”) – and exempting the 16th, 17th, 22nd and 26th Amendments which are hereby immediately repealed – each amendment to the Constitution passed previous to this document and which shall have been in force for 50 or more years shall be submitted to the several States for re-ratification . If the previously ratified amendment is not again ratified by the necessary number of states it shall be considered repealed.
    Section 5: Each article of this document and any future ratified Amendment to the Constitution shall likewise by submitted for “re-ratification” after 50 years.
    Let's get started dismantling this disastrous behemoth! (Investigating and indicting any and all persons within the government who used their powers inappropriately -- in any recent government -- is another beginning step.
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    • Posted by JuliBMe 7 years, 3 months ago
      I like this! However, I think it is too sweeping and will never happen. Good thinking, though.
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      • Posted by walkabout 7 years, 3 months ago
        The American revolution was "too sweeping" and was never supported by more than one third of the colonists. Things happen because a (usually) small band of people make it happen -- dragging the rest of the populace with them. (Unfortunately, lousy ideas (e.g. prohibition, income taxation, Obamacare) follow the same rules.) One per cent make it happen, nine per cent watch it happen, 90 per cent ask, "when did that happen?"
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        • Posted by JuliBMe 7 years, 3 months ago
          LOL, that is very true. I think it was actually only 10% of the population that participated in the Revolution. The left has this down to an art because, none of us seem to remember what a minority they actually are.

          I do agree with you. However, I actually would like to see what Trump does. I'm willing to wait and see if he's going to pull off "drain the swamp". And, I would like to give him his chance since he worked VERY hard to become president.
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  • Posted by blackswan 7 years, 3 months ago
    Actually, it started with the politicians who passed the Clayton Act in the 1880s, followed by Teddy, then Woodrow, then Hoover, THEN FDR, who didn't sprout from a lotus, fully formed, but who was prepped by 50 years of government intrusion into the economy as a template that he could use.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 3 months ago
    "Obama needs to stop worrying about hacking, and start packing" Nice comment on a YT video, and about sums it up. Hit the road Jack! Buuurrrpp...
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  • Posted by blackswan 7 years, 3 months ago
    BTW, an excellent analysis, even if we differ over the history of the process. One thing to keep in mind is how/why Julius Caesar was able to overthrow the republic when he did. The only conclusion has to be that, long before he appeared on the scene, the foundation was laid for his usurpation.
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    • Posted by Seer 7 years, 3 months ago
      The conquests that the Roman Republic made guaranteed its unwieldiness for governing same..
      Cicero certainly did his best to attempt to circumvent Caesar's rise to power (Caesar was popular with the people---the conquering general), but Cicero was also combating Cataline, who was manipulating the masses. Caesar was also, promising grain and debt forgiveness.
      Just a few clues. The American founders studied history, and were certainly aware of how easily republicanism can change to autocracy.
      It started as a triumvirate, you know.
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  • Posted by Seer 7 years, 3 months ago
    Good article, Robert. But I disagree with you about America's entry into World War II. It was necessary. That conspiracy that Roosevelt created Pearl Harbor I find not credible.
    Obama caused the instability across North Africa and the Levant; he didn't just stick his nose into them.
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    • Posted by 7 years, 3 months ago
      I find the evidence that Roosevelt knew Pearl Harbor was coming persuasive, the evidence that he did his best to provoke it slightly less so. He was working hard behind the scenes to get the US involved in the war, even as he assured voters that we would stay out. Without Pearl Harbor, he would have had a tough time convincing the public to support American entry. Germany had already invaded the USSR and Americans logically asked why the US had to intervene on either side when it was clear that the toll on both sides would be huge, and by intervening the US would be supporting either Hitler or Stalin.
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      • Posted by Seer 7 years, 3 months ago
        He may have known it was coming. I know Japanese assets had been frozen and that Japanese ambassadors were actually in talks in D.C. at the time of Pearl Harbor.
        And of course Americans didn't want to get involved in another European war. But Churchill knew without the "might and strength" of the United States, all of Europe would fall to Hitler. I won't get into the role of Stalin and the brave people of Russia, nor even how Stalin knew Hitler meant what he said in "Mein Kampf."

        You are showing a typical American attitude towards events happening in the rest of the world. You should get over that.
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        • Posted by 7 years, 3 months ago
          Explain.
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          • Posted by Seer 7 years, 3 months ago
            You seem isolationist, at best. I thought you felt that America shouldn't even have fought in World War II.

            And you said something to the effect that Hitler and Stalin should have been left to kill each other off. To me, that shows a superficial attitude to the real events of the advance and engagement of World War II.
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            • Posted by 7 years, 3 months ago
              Here's a statement with which I and most Russians would agree, and most Americans would disagree: the USSR won World War II. The war was decided when Hitler opened a second front against the advice of most of his generals (they knew their history). The Soviet civilian and military casualties were staggering, but so were the German's. Their Eastern Front casualties dwarfed what they sustained on their Western front, and they were through after Stalingrad. Everything after that, notwithstanding the ferocity of many battles on both fronts, was mopping up. That's not to denigrate what the US and English did after Normandy, but it was the Soviet Union that inflicted the decisive losses, at terrible cost to itself (between 25-30 million civilian and military deaths to the US's 400,000).

              It is undoubtedly true that US entry into the war relieved some pressure on the Soviet Union and made it easier for the Soviets to eventually defeat Germany. However, by Normandy, the tide had decisively turned (Stalingrad was over February 1943), and I think it is more chauvinistically American, even superficial, to argue that it was the US entry into the war that was decisive. Had Hitler and Stalin been left to kill each other off, perhaps Stalin would have been too weak to swallow the Baltic nations and Eastern Europe. That, of course, is conjecture.

              As for my preferred foreign policy, it is the same one favored by George Washington and John Quincy Adams, but that's another debate. "Isolatinism" is just a smear for a policy that endorses trade and peaceful intercourse with other willing nations, but eschews alliances and foreign political and military entanglements. It has worked quite well for Switzerland.
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              • Posted by Seer 7 years, 3 months ago
                I won't refight the war with you, only this: Stalin had asked the other allies to open up another front--a western front--long before they ever did. There is no argument the feisty, strong-willed Russian people took the brunt of the damages in that war, but if you think Stalin and the Russian steamroller could have kept Great Britain, at the least, from being engulfed by Hitler without the help of the US, you are wrong. Most of my history I read from primary source documents. I don't always agree with other historians, including Tim Snyder.

                Even Putin has thanked the US for entering the war, so as to help defeat Hitler.

                I don't think you are really aware of the carnage wrought in Russia due to the Siege of Leningrad, and Operation Barbarossa, and the Battle for Kursk.

                Robert, I don't disagree with you on the American founders policies of isolationism, and even the Monroe Doctrine. The founders did not want those warring European states to export their wars to America. However, time marches on, and it is a different world, and a different America. Americans no longer have the luxury of forgetting that the rest of the world exists. Take the Islamic State of Nowhere, for instance. (I call them that, so they can believe how unimportant they are to the me.)
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                • Posted by 7 years, 3 months ago
                  Our creation.
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                  • Posted by Seer 7 years, 3 months ago
                    Contribution.
                    America is not solely responsible. America did not have colonies in Africa. THAT problem was inherited. Unfortunately, the solutions we tried exacerbated the problem. Your article on the Deep State addressed some of the reasons for America's actions over the last 7 decades.
                    The Cold War was also a contributing factor to those 'solutions.'
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    Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 3 months ago
    You criticize a bunch of presidents and completely unfairly single out President Obama, who I believe has been a good president. At the very end you mention President-elect Trump with a note of blind hope that he will somehow stop the statist trends you describe in the rest of the article. This hope for change is blinder than the hopes I had for President Obama.

    I sometimes indulge in this blind hope. I figure if President-elect Trump can sell amazingly absurd crap, then maybe he can sell the "absurd" (according to conventional thinking) notion of cutting the size of the federal gov't in half over the next ten years. This is pure fantasy, but I'd take it if it came true. The other side of the coin is he'll act on the stuff he spews for the consumption of the deplorable looser element of his supporters. They're a minority, I know, but so are those of us who want a drastic reduction in state power. If you truly oppose statism you may long for President Obama in a few years. We don't know. In the absence of Constitutional limits that we actually observe, we are playing with fire.
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      Posted by 7 years, 3 months ago
      You're unhinged. If I criticize a bunch of presidents, how I am unfairly singling out President Obama? He's the latest in a long line who expanded the power of the government at the expense of the rights and liberty of individuals, which is what I said in my article. By my standards, and those of Ayn Rand, that's bad. You have different standards, so why are wasting your time on this site? All I said about Trump is that it remains to be seen what he'll do with his electoral victory. If he cuts "the size of the federal gov't in half over the next ten years," and that's a good thing, then how can Obama, who expanded the government, have been a good president? If "a drastic reduction in state power" is a good thing, how can Obama have been a good president? I don't care what happens in the next few years, I, who consistently oppose statism, will never long for statist Obama, or any of his statist predecessors from Roosevelt to Bush.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 3 months ago
        Straightlinelogic , I can guarantee you will never long for Obama .Barry has been a boil on the ass of progress. He will try to disrupt progress of our country create negative race relations and a reversal of his edicts that ignored the constitutional limits. Oh and he will become very wealthy in the near future.
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        Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 3 months ago
        I'll ignore the few ad hominem claims and focus on the substance. Your unstated premise is the US president has a big role in expansion of gov't powers. If President-elect Trump plays a large role in cutting gov't spending and intrusiveness in half over the next ten years, or even 10% over the next two years, it will prove you right that a) the president can radically change the scope of the federal gov't and b) Trump is not the carnival clown he currently appears to me to be. If I'm right that a) it's easier for the president to assert new powers than reduce gov't power and b) the president-elect is a showman, then we're playing with fire.
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        • Posted by 7 years, 3 months ago
          CircuitGuy, I apologize, I said you were unhinged. You're argument was unhinged. Everything that you said would make Trump a good president is the opposite of what Obama did, and you said Obama was a good president. Please explain the paradox. Also, I voted for Trump, but I agree with section a of your last sentence, and as I said in my article, it remains to be seen what Trump will do. That is, by the way, the only thing I said about what Trump will do in office.

          I'm skeptical that Trump will do anything other than move the government along the same path his predecessors did, and which I deplored in my article. As for whether he's a clown and a showman, I'll judge the man by his results.
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            Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 3 months ago
            "Everything that you said would make Trump a good president is the opposite of what Obama did"
            I don't agree with that assessment at all. I think he did a good job at managing the status quo. He hasn't fixed the structural problem of gov't. I don't know if it's possible for a president to do because part of the problem is executive over-reach.
            "As for whether [President-elect Trump] is a clown and a showman, I'll judge the man by his results."
            Yes. I am sure he's a showman of sorts, but it remains to be seen whether he will use to expand gov't power or protect citizens' rights. It could go either way. It will probably be a mixed-bag.

            I do not know what the markets don't reflect this uncertainty. Maybe market participants don't think the POTUS has much impact on business, or maybe they're all looking at their own fantasies they project on him. For many reasons, I predict VIX will eventually reflect the uncertainty I perceive.

            Getting back to the topic of judging by results, I agree completely, and I have a low bar. If a president can just manage the modern reality of a huge federal gov't with an empire-like military presence around the world, I will be satisfied. So if real per capita spending stay flat AND the deficit decreases while real per-capita GDP grow, I'll consider that success. Since President-elect Trump is talking about massive borrowing, similar to President Obama, my notion of a 10% cut in real spending over two years is pure fantasy.
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            • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 3 months ago
              If it was true that you are interested in Ayn Rands ideas, she tried to warn against the narcissistic fraud you claim as a good president. Here is your Altruistic socialist president speaking.

              "The biggest deficit that we have in our society and in the world right now is an empathy deficit. We are in great need of people being able to stand in somebody else's shoes and see the world through their eyes."

              Barack Obama
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                Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 3 months ago
                I think literature and story-telling media trick people into putting themselves into other people's shoes and that reduces the tendency to initiate force against others. We see a decrease in violence with the printing press and even constantly decreasing over the past 100 years if you consider WWII to be an anomaly. I would like to ask President Obama if he thinks the deficit is a recent decrease in empathy or if he is just saying the increase in empathy has been a good thing and he thinks we need more.

                Narcissistic fraud is an empty epithet not related to Ayn Rand or President Obama, but you by chance hit upon one of my biggest disappointments with Obama: He campaigned on hope but often talks about fear. I was optimistic that investors would worth through the financial crisis on our own. He promoted fear, not hope, to sell people on expanding President Bush's policies of gov't bailout and stimulus. In the quote you cite, he's talking about the empathy deficit rather than on how empathy has been an amazing part of the civilizing process. Cruel treatment of criminals and animals are looked down upon. Solving your disputes with guns is seen as low-class, not something for top leaders like Burr and Hamilton. I don't see the deficit. I see huge progress, and I have hope that an even better world is possible.
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                • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 3 months ago
                  CircuitGuy here is a quote from your "good president" Oct.18,2016. "There is no serious person out there who would suggest some how that you could even rig America's election, in part
                  because they're so decentralized and the numbers involved" Obama. If you like this POS you are a fool.
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                  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 3 months ago
                    I don't know about "suggest", but the evidence shows he's absolutely right. There was no widespread election fraud. President-elect Trump won the Electoral College fair and square. Secretary Clinton won the popular vote, which does not matter, fair and square. President Obama was correct. The election was fair.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 3 months ago
      Play with fire? A flamethrower at 10 paces aimed at Obama and activated would be justice for his traitorous crimes. As you well know, I do not support Trump although I give him a chance to act in favor of individual liberty and free markets. That would be the opposite of Obama's disgusting, unconstitutional, statist, occasionally traitorous actions. Bush was a horrible president. Obama was much, much worse and between the two of them, they set back individual liberty a century.or more and crippled our country with insane debt, unnecessary war, and unconstitutional regulations and rights violations crushing the life out of the economy and personal liberty.
      Obama can't die quick enough.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 3 months ago
        Obama can't die quick enough because he plans to big time narcissist whiner stick around after January 20--and to the delight of his morally corrupt fawning lib media.
        Think you're sick of that traitor now? Just wait.
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