Thank you, Dob! Same to you!

I think Carson is very accomplished person all round but I think his pyramid theory is a bit flaky. I admire the man but generally speaking.
Based on a statement he made, I don't think Dr. Carson would approve of my 30-round clip carbine in an urban area but the Hoover Tactical rifle range is in very urban Hoover just beyond Birmingham's Southside. I have a problem with any nitpicking of the Second Amendment. .
But if Carson ran against $hillary, I would have voted for him. Think she would have beat him, though, along with Ted Cruz, who I voted for in the primary.
The Donald giving the evil hag a bad hair day seems akin to a miracle.

Your opinion is valid about the bicameral brain but , you have no evidence to support it. Maybe if you studied the enigma of the pyramids you would know that how it was built with such astonishing precision is why the issue of the builders is so murky.

Sorry I think she would see the intention of the messenger as the important aspect, not the unproven theory used to illustrate it.

This post is just to discredit a man. A very accomplished brain surgeon who was trying to make a point to graduates that if they think big, with determination and work hard great achievements can occur. His story or thoughts about the pyramid was not the point of his speech. I will repeat. Is the point to denigrate a brain surgeon for his hypothesis about archeology and to ignore a positive message? Particularly when the archaeological theories are full of holes
Smells like a progressive rat trap.
The idea "rags to riches" by individual achievement. It is a leftist nightmare. So they discredit the messenger of that idea.

Happy New Year Nickursis,
I thought this might be of interest to you. It is a lecture by Robert Bauval who has collaborated with Graham Hancock. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCU7n...

For storing grain, there are simpler methods than to build a huge massive structure with tiny tunnels in it.
Using the tiny tunnels in comparison to the structure to store grain may not be unreasonable if some pharaoh got overthrown and exiled.
Shifting desert sands may not be a good place of a pit but they did have buildings and wells on more table ground.
Still, I'v e read that Egypt was a lot greener in ancient times.
https://www.google.com/search?q=silo+...

That pretty much describes my view of the universe. I use the label "atheist" easily, but under that are many unknowns. The Universe did not have a Creator, but Earth may well have. After all, we build houses ... in outer space...

Nominal atheists Carl Sagan and Richard Dawkins agreed that what we perceive at the subatomic level may be consequences of something else that we do not perceive but the understanding of which would answer some questions. Beyond that, they had no opinions ...

I have had that same experience, Abaco, with Masters and PHds who have absolutely no common sense, or grasp of reality. Although in his case, if there were enough evidence to support a bad view, I would have expected it to surface during the primaries, and there were only a couple claims he was a quack, and they quickly faded.

Actually, there is no real evidence to assume anyone was ever buried in there. The three Pyramids are unique not just for their size, but for the fact that they are almost completely devoid of any decoration or glyphs claiming to belong to anyone. What there is also does not correlate to dates either. It is one of he odd things about them, and also was a reason the grain theory became popular to explain it.

Except his data is a wee bit out of date, something from the last year would be more appropriate. It is like expecting Trump to grab every ass and boob in the WH after he takes over, because he may have done it 15 years ago. People change, grow and mature. Although Trump may be a bit whacky..Carson has not been out in right field, except when he started during the primaries speaking about the 30K year old Earth (from biblical references) as if it was fact. His only problem there was in not making it clear it is his belief based on his religion, and separated the religion from the science.

Thats what I think, as well. I do not want people in any office who have their own agenda, and will manipulate things to fit it. Enough of that in the last 8 years....

Dob, as we have discussed in other threads, the Pyramid question has a lot of hard, factual data to say that they are not as the Egyptologists would have everyone believe. Graham Hancock has some well founded theories, that he does not pretend to "own" and he makes a persuasive case for their being much older. The "alien" idea could even mean the theoretical previous civilization Hancock espouses, since no one has any data on just what they could or could not do, if they existed.

Bingo! Right on target. I did not buy into his beliefs (there is another video where he espouses the "Earth is 30K years old" belief) but he does have a good track record, and usually makes a lot of sense on political and economic ideas. He is a qualified as any other loon that Barack Baby rolled into DC, and he is not beholding to anyone, that I am aware of. At least I do not believe he will sell out to whatever political group tells him too, like, oh, say the IRS, the Justice Department, the EPA..etc..during the present empire.

Exactly! !!!...the left has a knack of picking things out of context.

A while back I read an article that detailed a process that may have been used in the pyramids to create hydrogen fuel. It was very well thought out but in no way stated the thesis as definitive.

If someday we solve the mystery...we won't have the pyramids to kick around anymore.

Hi OUC,
The actual reasons for the pyramids being built is certainly up in the air. If you ask just about anyone they will say what they were taught that they were burial sites for mummies. There has not been a mummy found in any pyramid in Egypt . They have found many Pharos tombs and the all are filled with hieroglyphs covering the walls and ceilings as well as items to take to the duat. There are no hieroglyphs in the great pyramid .I seriously doubt grain storage was the purpose. My thoughts are that vibrations and energy are part of the machine. Yes it is a machine built of stone. The pyramids especially the great pyramid in Giza is an enigma. Many aspects of thisbuilding is almost impossible to rectify. My studies of it show that the mathematical elements , the precision is almost impossible to comprehend.

I find this post puzzling... is the point to denigrate a brain surgeon for his hypothesis about archeology and to ignore a positive message? Particularly when the archaeological theories are full of holes.

Smells like a progressive rat trap.

His speech included his belief about the pyramids it was in reference to the bible story of Joseph the Slave .In his story Carson speaks of Joseph thinking big (the theme get it ,MM) Being a slave Joseph was determined to be the best slave he could be and he ended up in charge of the Egyptians grain and built the pyramids to store the grain that feed the folks for 7 yrs of drought and Joseph became a top official for the Egyptians.

The idea "rags to riches" by individual achievement. A leftist nightmare.

At a graduation ceremony the students are not attending a class they are preparing for entry to the real world. The speech should be designed to encourage success and contain some element to attain that success? The point of the story was for the graduates to think big and work to attain those goals and he was trying to give them an example, he then followed with his own story of rising from being a crappy student to a world class brain surgeon , oh and he didn't have white privilege.

The bicameral brain was wacky enough, uncontrolled by a mind; but at the same time capable of many amazing things, and who knows, we may be giving bicameral man too much or too little credit here.
My impression is that ole Ben Carson was simply stating what some think, not claiming what is...

MM's response below seems to pinpoint why this is even a discussion.

Unless you have a little evidence that might point to something other than those humans who might have built the pyramids, it would be best to not try to prove a negative about extraterrestrials. The best evidence for them might be that bicameral mind giving dreamy stuff to the beholder.

Belief is a general term with respect to mental recall. It it does not specify the reason for the mental content nor does understanding. A belief may indicate that something understood is actually true or that something is just thought to be true through some memory. Suppose you understand something. That does not mean that that is true but only that you can connect logically to facts of reality that you believe to be true. Belief does not necessarily just accept truth on the basis of authority unless one makes that authority oneself which would fit Rand in a great many cases. A priori thought, as in philosophy, can never get reality right just as understanding may be right or wrong. One has to go on what one believes one knows or get caught in spinning one's mental wheels in wasted time continuing to look for the really true facts. For progress in knowledge, errors must be made and corrected and perhaps still be in error for later generations to correct.

That evolutionary process may just be a description of perceived reality and nothing that is some existing cause of evolving systems. There need not be a caused causal chain for some future effect, just chemical actions taking place for no reason other than they can happen. Things may just evolve as accidents which can happen with no intelligent design behind them except for rare exceptions due to some rational beings who most of the time act nearly automatically.

Hear, Hear!

hmmm. I wondered what happened to Maj. Frank Burns after the Korean war ended and MASH disolved

I think that Ben Carson, the brain surgeon, may have accidentally removed part of his own brain by mistake. In my experience, individuals who have beliefs that are not supported by actual evidence cannot be trusted to make otherwise rational decisions.

My reaction to this story is "so what?" Does a fringe belief about the pyramids prevent him from doing his job? What he believes is no more ludicrous than the fanatic religious, Gaia-worshipping members of the climate change religion, and they've already done some serious damage.

I'm sure "some" scientist think this, we all seem to have an opinion on the subject so I wouldn't call the statement incorrect but Mike just suggested the link between this and fake news that might be correct.

No it doesn't but it also doesn't mean they didn't...it's an interesting discussion we have all added our two cents to.
I would entertain all the maybe's.