Dr. Ben Carson - Libertarian?

Posted by $ blarman 11 years, 11 months ago to Philosophy
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These are some GREAT quotes! #4 is my favorite.


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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are correct, but winning in politics is often about not giving your enemy ammunition to use against you.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He's been in the spotlight for a while...how long does he need to think about his stance on things before he voices it. He's not 12.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I disagree. Strong, principled stand right out of the gate. It's what reasoned people are looking for.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Small l not L. The Libertarian party, I believe, does in fact espouse open borders. Thus, one can have libertarian beliefs and not be a Libertarian. Which is where I think Ben is at.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Being guarded is actually a good thing for a president. That means that the person thinks before he/she acts.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, but even the little that I know of BC tells me that he would be far better than the current occupant.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I just give him some slack. He may be contemplating a run for significant office, and as such needs to be cognizant of everything he says. Heck I was criticized for holding a principled position during a recent run for county supervisor. Too many of our fellow voters are willing to believe whatever they are told about a candidate or is reported. Thus, those who might be contemplating a run need to be incredibly careful.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wasn't assigning...I was explaining how it appears..to me. But I wouldn't be so quick to assign pure character either. :)
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  • Posted by Maphesdus 11 years, 11 months ago
    I like this one:

    ”The real key to staying cool and calm is to relinquish selfishness and always consider the feelings of others.”
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  • Posted by $ jlc 11 years, 11 months ago
    I think my opinion is that if he knew my beliefs and he wanted to stand under my umbrella, he would be welcome. If he considered himself opposed to me, he would be an alternative that would not present a logical disaster...the 'honorable opponent' concept.

    If people like him were the worst that we had to concern ourselves about...

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    1) The NSA director was definitely following orders.
    2) The brief jail time is because what Snowden did was treasonous to the United States of America (albeit far less than Obama or the NSA director).
    3) The witness protection program should be obvious. Are you arguing for no jail time or a long jail time? No jail time would be difficult to stomach for anyone who likes the rule of law. Death is standard for treason; this is a reasonable place to make an exception to the death penalty for treason.
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  • Posted by RobertFl 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They need to express that concern to the LIbertarian party. I recently spoke on the phone to a party rep in DC about just that. He told me that they do get a lot of push back on that issue and are evaluating their position.
    The problem seems to be that there are lot of people saying they're libertarian but that doesn't reflect in their registered membership roles. A lot of people talking but not to where it matters where the party platform is drafted.
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  • Posted by ewv 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    jbrenner: "I would have put him in a witness protection program after a brief jail time."

    Why a brief jail time? Rather, a witness protection program prior to a lengthy jail term for the NSA director.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think a man should be a man and not shy away from his beliefs and convictions and voice them without trepidation. Anything else comes off weak or pandering. Wishy washy.
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  • Posted by XenokRoy 11 years, 11 months ago
    I have say that the first quote is well, altruistic, and just plain wrong. I mean sure consider the feelings of others, but do so in the context of what is best for you. This guy needs to read the virtues of selfishness.

    Most the rest were not so alarming, but that first one makes me very skeptical of him.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am sure that if he chooses to thrust himself into the political arena by running for office that there will be plenty more investigation and he will be forced to flesh out his stances. Until then, I think it is prudent to follow the sage advice: caveat emptor.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, it was expressed as how to stay cool and calm. Yes you conclude what you conclude including at gut level (if your head level philosophy is well integrated at the emotional level). But to maximize achieving your values in the situation you must see clearly enough the feelings, needs of those you are dealing with in order to get to the best outcome that concerns/needs them if not on board then at least not so actively fighting against.

    I wish he hadn't expressed it as putting aside selfishness.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello Robbie53024,
    Hear, Hear! I would like very much to see him in some position like that. It may be a good place for him to cut his teeth and for us to learn more about him.
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's the best way to govern period. Make sure they are educated and follow good principles, then let them carry on. You save micromanagement for the unskilled and unmotivated.
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