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Beauty

Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 7 months ago to Culture
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I thought that we might contemplate a subject having little to do with politics. Being old, I often look at things based on what would today be considered as no longer in use. Take beauty for example, I think we can all agree on certain standards of beauty like when we see a flower, certain art, or hear a piece of /http://music.It is pretty easy to expound on their beauty. One thing, however, I find to be less easily understood, is the beauty of people.

Standards of what is considered beautiful have changed from era to era, and generation to generation. Look at runway models. They are skinny, barely pubescent girls. And , girls is what they are, not women. Yes, they have beauty, but they are not a standard of beauty. Real women simply don't look like that. Compared to women, when it comes to beauty in men, they have it much easier. They seem to come in all shapes and sizes but still get their share of admiration. I suppose the current standard for male beauty comes from Hawaii in the form of an ex-wrestler named Dwayne Johnson.

But beauty, and I mean real beauty is not just skin and bones. It is also intellect, attitude, grace, and expression. I started thinking about this one day as I thought about my wife. When I first met her at a party 62 years ago, and asked her to dance, she was pretty and she was a great dancer. She made my stumbling steps look good. As I look at her today, I realize that she has grown into true beauty. And I thought, how fortunate I was to be committed to such a woman, whose true beauty has only grown as the years have gone by. I hope I am up to her standards.


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  • Posted by rbroberg 8 years, 6 months ago
    "[...] real beauty is not just skin and bones."
    Human beings do indeed have attributes beyond the physical description reproduced on their licenses, passports, or Match profiles. If the mind is man's tool of survival, then wouldn't "intellect, attitude, grace, and expression" have equal or greater importance to weight, height, hair color, eye color, etc.? Herb, I like it.

    On the other end of the argument, we should ask what is the reason a particular culture values youth and a slender frame when the maintenance of such a figure requires self-induced vomiting, starvation, amphetamines, and hours of Pilates, for example.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have only been able to grasp Helen Keller's "descriptions" as products of pure imagination. But, you are certainly right about music. There are persons in the Gulch that hate some music that I love. I cannot account for it. About the only "music" the seems to be about 95% disliked is Hip-Hop.
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  • Posted by khalling 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have often wondered about the usefulness of scented crayons and names for crayons not tied to a visual experience-like "cornflower." Rather colors based on tactile or abstract description. "fire" "rain" all the flowers and how they smell. ( I guess it might take a blind person to explain to me the difference in smell between a red rose and a yellow one ) but even if we take sight away, what about hearing? objectively, people argue over music. Hardly objective, here is Helen Keller's thought on the subject of beauty: "The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched. They must be felt within the heart."
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  • Posted by 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks.
    There are so-called standards of beauty, but you're right, it's subjective. I would bet that if you were describing a color to a person blind from birth and another person described the same color, I'd bet that the bind person would think they were two different things.
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  • Posted by dwlievert 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Herb:

    Though it can be objectively defined within a context (symetry, form following function, etc), I would argue it is ultimately subjective. It is indeed "in the mind of the beholder."

    When one or more of the senses encounters it, the mind produces that warm inner glow of recognition and pleasure, triggered by its possessed and imagined values.

    Great question Herb!
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  • Posted by Steven-Wells 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Designers like women who look like waifs or tall clothes hangers to dress with a couple band aids and a cork. A friend of mine likes some aspects of the modern tall model, but wants them with a little more chest, thus the "giraffe with tits" look, say Eva Green. Personally, I'm a throwback to a weightier age, preferring Marilyn Monroe as she looked in Some Like It Hot (1959). She would rate as plus size in modern measurements, but steamed up Tony Curtis’s glasses (and many others’).
    Because of the emphasis on body over clothes, contemporary adult video starlets look curvier than fashion models; for example (some A names): Alexis Texas, August Ames, Asa Akira, Adriana Chechik, Lisa Ann.
    My comments above are all visual—ignoring, intellect, poise, character, grace, ...
    For hotties with brains, thoughtfulness, and perspective, watch Outnumbered on Fox News, typically hosted by Sandra Smith, Harris Faulkner, and pretty plus-sized Meghan McCain.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've seen the ugliest kids come from the prettiest couples...always wondered What the Hell Happened...
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  • Posted by 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    depends on whether they are funny or not. We all have idiosyncrasies, but I think a person should be comfortable enough with them to not care what anyone else thinks about them.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed...but sometimes a slight "interesting" deviation from that mathematical perfect can be attractive also...like a slightly crooked mouth, a dimple or freckles.

    Funny, the idea of "interesting" just reminded me of the original definition of the word cute as found in very old dictionaries: So ugly, that in a strange sort of way...kind of interesting.
    Therefore, in the 60's I hated when girls called me "Cute"! when having Kooties was bad enough...laughing.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Those are all attributes that are admirable in both men and women. They are to be found in a hero, and a hero will seek a hero to mate.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The mind can not manifest anything, (like the Secret espouses), but it can sense that which has already occurred...therefore...Extra Sensory Perception.
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  • Posted by $ jhannen 8 years, 7 months ago
    My contribution to beauty would have to be confidence and strength. I've always said that what I found most attractive in particularly women is confidence, strength and a positive, can-do attitude.
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