Hip-Hop

Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 4 months ago to Culture
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I am what is today called a "classically trained musician." I suppose that means , I went to school to learn music.I studied composition and musicology, and played a number of brass instruments. I have played with orchestras and swing bandas, but I haven't been a professional performer for many years.Our new car came with Sirius so I played around with it one day, listening to various channels until I accidently landed on a hip-hop station.My ears were assaulted with a driving beat and some person chanting: (Please pardon the following)
"I just wanna fuck bad bitches,
Chicken head, chicken fed, with a dick in your mouth."
As I listened to this charming tirade, I could hardly believe my ears. I later found out that this was some person called Dr. Dre. I decidedto listen to more of this stuff. Surely it couldn't all be this bad. I was wrong, it was. And worse.

Apparently, to rappers, women are not fully human. They are all bitches and whores and are to be raped, abused, and beaten. Hip-hop is for young men who do things without consequences, and society says it is OK. It even gets various music awards though it is filled with violence, crime, sex-as-brutality, and more. And then, society wonders why its young men are so violent.

I suppose I am naïve in that I wasn't aware of the depths of depravity that this so-called music represents. I heard rap many years ago by Ice-T and others of that era, but had no idea how low this junk has gotten. If art is the flower on the tree of philosophy, this must be a stinkweed.


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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 4 months ago
    Rap doesn't make its target audience violent -- they already are. It just provides them with a way to provoke fights with you and me.

    As far as sexual promiscuity -- that is and should be accepted, by a lot more than just blacks.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think I did see it on a school trip in 1966 or 1967
    (maybe 1968). I had seen it at the Waynesboro
    High School in 1966. I was more excited by the
    school performance; there was a sort of smugness
    in the film that I didn't exactly cotton to.(Not that it wasn't good, but I liked the school perform-
    ance better, though some of it lacked polish.
    And no, it wasn't my high school).
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A long time ago, the D'Oyly-Carte players filmed The Mikado. I thought I had seen it before. Compared to their performance, filmed on stage as it was performed proved that I had never seen the Mikado. If you can find that film, you will thank me.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Listen to or watch "Singing In The Rain." a really fun, great musical. The movie is also excellent. It's Jerome Kern, I believe.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think I remember something in the Google Terms
    about not saying putting content on that was ob-
    jectionable or offensive, so maybe I ought not to
    have made the reference to "throw[ing] up".Rogers
    and Hammerstein was reasonably good, but it
    never excited me like G&S. Though my ab-
    solutely favorite song was not by them--it is
    La Marseillaise. (Not that I favor France over
    the U.S.A., but they do have one h**l of a
    national anthem).






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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's why you live in America. You can voice your opinion, but I don't have to agree. BTW I was just at a G&S performance of "Pinafore" and enjoyed it immensely.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Gershwin is all right, but it doesn't excite me all
    that much. Now Berlin is better, I think--I really
    care for "God Bless America". But I like a 4/4
    rhythm, and not swing--not saying that's all they
    wrote. But I think there has been a certain amount of deterioration for a long time. As to
    Stravinsky, don't try to make me throw up, please.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I really haven't seen very many of them, due to
    lack of opportunity. Several different versions of
    The Mikado; also I saw H.M.S. Pinafore on stage once; some years ago, my mother had got-
    ten a few on a VCR to show me on a visit home.
    But I learned them mainly from record albums.
    HMS Pinafore is my favorite.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One of these days we're going to have a conversation about that. So, you are of the opinion that the music of Gershwin, Kern, Berlin, etc. doesn't amount to much? There's Copeland, as well as many great composers since G&S. As to Stravinsky -- well, I wish I had you in a music class. You have become "sissy-eared." You need to evolve a bit, but if you like the romantic music of the 1800s (most Objectivists do) Then there are the movie composers, John Williams, Elmer Bernstein, etc.
    Oepratic type musicals such as those by Sondheim, or how about The Phantom of the Opera? Don't throw away the 20th century.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is comic light opera. I adore G&S. Just saw a performance of HMS Pinafore done by a G&S touring group, who are methodically performing each opera from beginning to end, one per year it was great. And the actors stayed in character when taking their bows.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have heard drum ensembles play music. It requires a talented composer and an equally talented group of percussionists. But by and large you are correct. Western music is comprised of three elements. Melody, harmony, and rhythm.
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  • Posted by bbuckeye 8 years, 4 months ago
    Rap certainly is not music, unless you believe that a drum beat alone is music. IMO, music requires a melody, so hip hop barely makes it although it is so repetitive that it defies logic.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In English?--Why not mention something really
    great and wonderful--(and I really do mean it)---
    GILBERT & SULLIVAN?!!!
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 4 months ago
    I think that music has not, by and large, amounted
    to much since Gilbert and Sullivan died (not that
    the music itself need ever finally die, but I mean
    the era). But it was some time before it got to be
    as nauseating as "punk rock", etc. (Of course,
    there was Stravinsky; that could be blasphem-
    ous and offensive without words--like an attempt
    to destroy music from within).
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 4 months ago
    Sounds like the next round of government occupiers, reminiscent of the 60's doper crowd that gave us a pass for the criminally insane, communism and political correctness.

    The pendulum is about to swing the other way...way to far as usual.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A secret abuser?
    I don't think so, but then :
    "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?
    The Shadow knows". -- Orson Welles
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I never thought of that!
    Thank you, I will steal that from you and place it in my verbal arsenal.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You should try opera in English. Start with a familiar one like Carmen. Better still, The Medium by Gian-Carlo Menotti. He wrote Amahl and The Night Visitors. You might surprise yourself and like it. I often draw the line at heavy metal. Some of those guys play by rote and wouldn't know a good guitar riff if they were hit in the ear by it.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I felt the same hearing Beth and have been listening to her most the afternoon. Great pipes as they say! BTW she and Joe Bonnamassa did a CD together.
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  • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Left has for many years enjoyed their little joke that "military intelligence" is an oxymoron. I like to respond that "rap music" is an oxymoron.
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