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SUPER COPS

Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago to Science
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Oh you people in the Gulch.
You got me thinking about the police. You outlined your experiences not once but twice. I wanted to be sure of what I was hearing. I was raised to respect police, and over the years, my experience with them has been mostly positive, with a few exceptions. But, the problems with today's police as astutely pointed out by Gulchers got me thinking, and as usual, as I started reading up on the subject it led me to some interesting if unexpected directions,. I am going to skip the footnotes and references, as I have little patience for that and just present the bare bones of my reading.

Research in police behavior starts in the national military and filters down to local police, including state police and county sheriffs. Serious studies started after the Civil War in which modern weaponry was introduced bringing with it higher death rates in battle than were previously experienced. It is an axiom in the military that equipment can help turn the tide but no battle can be won unless there were soldiers on the ground.

Cutting through all the voluminous studies on the subject, I was surprised to learn that soldiers of the Civil War and World War One didn't often kill the enemy. Only 15% shot to kill - on both sides. In World War Two, greater indoctrination provided soldiers with a higher kill rate of 25%.Part of that was improved weaponry with automatic guns , canons and flamethrowers.The big challenge, therefore, was how to get more highly motivated soldiers. Let's skip ahead in time about 20 years.

Vast improvements in body armor and the start of exoskeletons have made the soldier more effective , but killing motivation continues to be a bugaboo. Attempts with various drugs including LSD have not worked satisfactorily. The problem is consciousness. trying to create the super soldier or super cop are relying on "meatware." They forgot about Dr. Einstein.Free will comes from consciousness. Consciousness is our perception of reality. But reality is not Newtonian - it is really very weird. In the Newtonian world things can be traced backed to their origins and then moved forward in order to predict their future. However, it has failed to create the ideal soldier. I'm not going to go into entanglement and all the mind-twisting quantum paths except to say that newer more recent experiments which base their psychology on quantum theories have led to CBT, or Cognitive Behavior Therapy, which has proven to create new interneuronal connections in the brain. This is energy creating matter which creates the mental acuity of the ultimate killing predator. If you object to the actions of current police, you ain't seen nuthin' yet.This research has illuminated to me the thinking of certain current military strategists that scares the hell out of me. I doubt if any of us will enjoy dealing with mind altered super cops.


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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 9 months ago
    I suspect we're not going to be seeing the kind of super cops you fear, but they will be gaining a lot more "toys" to help them, and some of those are designed to lower the stress level and avoid unintended consequences. Drones are cheap, readily available technology to aid in pursuit. The drones today are too slow to keep up with vehicle traffic, except in congested urban situations, but we'll be seeing smaller law enforcement organizations that can't afford a helicopter going the drone route. Look for a high speed pursuit drone in the near future.

    Military non-lethal weapons are evolving beyond the rubber bullet, and will undoubtedly reach the law enforcement arsenal soon. One great method of crowd control is a microwave beam that makes the rioters think they're on fire, even though it does no real harm. It's a little clunky now, but good technology always improves, coming down in cost, weight, and mobility.

    Body cams are being adopted at a rapid pace, and are already acting as a check on excessive use of force by police wearing them. In fact, one female cop got beaten almost senseless by a perpetrator because she was worried that the body cam footage might make it look like she went overboard if she drew her firearm. Increased accountability and oversight is becoming the new watchword, so don't worry about fictional brutal supercops.
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  • Posted by DeanStriker 8 years, 9 months ago
    Informative and well written, Herb. The stuff about the low percentages of soldiers who kill (or won't) was an eye-opener!
    There's a lesson in that which deserves more attention that it's given these days.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Vincent D'Nofrio was great in that movie in a role that could easily humiliate a less talented actor.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago
    Not to mention...video games where killing isn't real, I've played a few, shoot em up and car get aways where, once crashed, everything resets.
    Plays havoc with the brain and if one is not fully consciously aware in the first place...well, you can see where it goes from there.

    Someday I'll add to Julian Jaynes's work by adding the problems with humans gaining consciousness experienced by our self appointed non conscious handlers.

    There is no doubt in my mind that this is a Fight between Conscious Human Life and non conscious humanoidal anti life.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Drafted dino heard the word "kill" a lot on Parris Island back in 1969.
    Drill instructors told us time, time and again that we were being made into "lean green killing machines."
    This bit from Full Metal Jacket is almost like a vivid memory--save for that fire watch scene at the end~
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu0ju...
    I was told I'd be a supply clerk, by the way, But before I trained to be a supply clerk, I received advanced training on how to be a better killer.
    I was introduced told the M16 (used the M14 on the Island like in the movie) and assorted other weapons, went on hikes, played war and so forth.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 9 months ago
    This is a lot of what they are trying to do with Basic Training in the military. I can stil remember chanting, "Blood Blood Blood makes the grass grow!" during bayonet training.

    Good times
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  • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What really pulled me into the subject was the experiments dealing with the nature of consciousness and perception. Leave it to the scientific community to take a breakthrough and militarize it.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, I barely scratched the surface. The idea of mind altered cops is pretty scary. I left out that there are suspicions that experiments are going on underground with brain damaged patients. Apparently, there have been a couple of novels written on the subject, we can guess who the villains are.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 9 months ago
    Hi Herb; I kind of think we're seeing some of those mind altered cops already. As to CBT, I've seen it so inappropriately applied and in many cases used as a type of politically correct thinking tool.

    Teaching people about thinking and how their minds work are highly appropriate, but doing so in a manner to manipulate correct thinking truly frightens me.

    Txs for your recap.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 9 months ago
    Hi Herb,
    As you, I have had mostly positive experiences with police .They have a difficult job to be sure. They usually become present in a persons life at tragic events if not traffic enforcement. We hire them to catch criminals that are violent and only can be subdued with force .They are challenged to solve crimes based on evidence that proves beyond the shadow of doubt guilt. That said their power and force is very dangerous when combined with human emotions and temperament. With unlimited funds and as you have pointed out trial and error. The brainwashing and mind manipulation of soldiers and super cops is inevitable , combine that with weapons, Kevlar and removal of consciousness result is a living robot. The CIA ,KGB and other initials around the world with the power hungry ruling elite kakistocrats spend lots of time and effort figuring out ways to kill, and control all in the name of security.
    The federal govt has their reach into local law enforcement in many ways. The founders intent, I think was for local city ,county , and states to handle policing and law enforcement as needed.
    The federal govt was to pave the way for interstate commerce,to protect our borders and from foreign enemies. Governments and bureaucrats have the tendency to be control freaks with the constitution as the barrier between us and them.
    Thanks for sharing your research on
    CBT and COPS
    Regards,
    DOB
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