I doubt that your argument is philosophically sustainable. You are arguing, or equating, the rights of a real person vs a potential person, with an undefined depth of potential. Should be go back to the Bible for the definition of that potential, as is striking dead for the offense of spilling the "potential"? "Potential" is wasted and thrown away every day and not only in terms of human procreation; whom should I hold responsible for not allowing my potential to blossom?

I will refute that, as a paramedic I have delivered a premmy weighing 1k 2nd trimester infant, and it survived outside of the mother's womb.
Also, your argument would mean that when a pregnant woman is shot, and the "baby" dies, it could not be called a murderer.

Hear hear

An infant is born. Inside it is a fetus. A fetus is a physical parasite, not a person.

And does not the infant have a right to life?
The power to either grant life to the unborn baby or of the mother, is not a Federal issue, and thus by the Constitution, it refers back to the State.
I am very certain that in many States, if RvW were overturned, not much would change. Yet it would no longer give SCOUS the power to force it's will upon the States.
This is exactly what happened Texas last year. The bill they passed did not restrict abortion. It required the clinics to use standard sterile procedures, have admitting pre set up with a hospital, Incase of an emergency, and SCOTUS claimed that restricted the right of women. This is exactly what is required of any dentist's office or Lasix clinic.

Sex

Think you have him there.

Until one is no longer a physical parasite, but I am particularly callous about this subject.

I agree with you. I posted the note, because I didn't understand Trumps real position, and I was arguing against Hillary with a feminist. This place really compresses the noise into tangible information. I do find his pandering to the right in his new position irritating, but irrelevant as you say.

As an agnostic, I think the viability argument at the core of Roe v Wade has some validity. The baby inside the womb is the same creature as the one outside of it an hour later. Perhaps killing it because it's still inside is acceptable. Of course my son was born a couple of weeks premature so I've held someone in my arms who would have normally been still been inside.

That question is very simple, until religion enters the room. The baby is a parasite until it is born viable.

He followed that statement with "but that should be left up to the states." He's never been terribly polished about crossing the thought about policy with his personal opinion.

They are taking responsibility. Having an abortion is no picnic, and isn't free. No one wants one.

All true. The government should be out of it.

Totally agree.

Mother keeps the baby and takes care of it. Father should be out. No problem, unless they are married. Should factor into the mother's decision. If married, They have to work it out or decide not to be married.

Personal responsibility for what?

Exactly right!

If we have a right to privacy, why does the state get to tell us what drugs we can take, that we have seat belt and helmet laws etc. If we truly have a right to control over our body, why are so many laws passed to control us?

I actually would like a right to privacy, but apparently it only applies to abortion.

Two points. First, the time to worry about body autonomy was before the sex happened as the primary purpose of the sex act is pregnancy. Abortion has become just another form of birth control albeit an after the fact one. If you want to play, first get on birth control (even if it may have side effects), make the man use a condom, and if something goes wrong get the Plan B the next morning. This limits your chances of becoming pregnant, and is taking personal responsibility and limits the need for abortions.
Second, the wording in Roe v. Wade concerning late term abortions has allowed women to twist the letter of the law. It states that a late term abortion is allowed if it could impact the woman's health. Well health has been determined to be just about anything, even depression. So a woman could go to a Psychologist and have them sign off on her claim that her mental health is being impacted by her 'unwanted' pregnancy and schedule a late term abortion.
And I am pro-choice because I live by Dennis Miller's saying that when it comes to the subject of abortion it should be 'one penis, no vote'

Men do have something to do with it or there would be no fetus. I would argue women have a personal freedom to not have sex if they are unwilling to live with the consequences. One more time I will say, what about personal responsibility?

trump is a pragmatist thru & thru...no consistent objective philosophy to guide him...and the sad fact is that he read Atlas...he rejects objective philosophy...reminds me of the song...love the one you are with....

Since when is Trump a champion of fiscal responsibility? He's the one calling for socialist expansions like mandatory paid maternity leave. He wants to replace Obamacare with his own version. He isn't calling for reductions in spending. Or taxes.

And I question his affinity for the Second Amendment as well. He was a vocal proponent of the Brady Bill in the 90's. His "Lifetime" membership in the NRA was only purchased a couple of years ago - and it's cheap - only a few hundred dollars.

Trump is in this for himself. He's anything but principled. He's going to be a lot like GW Bush if he gets elected IMO - certainly not as bad as Obama, but certainly no Ronald Reagan either. Better than Clinton? ANYONE - even Bernie - is better than Clinton.

Does Trump really care about overturning Roe v Wade?

My opinion? No. Trump is saying this because he knows that if he doesn't get a significant portion of the conservative vote, he's doomed. Will he actually try to do anything about it? Not a chance. Trump's not a conservative. His concern will last just up until the election results are announced.

And the opposite argument questions if the baby really is part of the woman, or it's own individuality with rights that must be protected. When does life actually begin? Answer that question and all else falls out accordingly.