And Jill Stein isnt going anywhere, so why waste money attacking her.

On the contrary, Hillary will make it so clear that her form of government is an abject failure, it will send the sheep scurrying to libertaria.to escape ;^)
(Just so you aren't confused. I'd rather see Hillary dead than elected by dead people to be president.)

Hello khalling,
What is the question? :) If he could be elected he could be the answer to some things. If he can inspire more people to reject the two party stranglehold in future elections, then perhaps he is the answer desperately needed for that purpose.
Regards,
O.A.

Thanks term2... We spoke recently on another thread regarding unfriending those "friends" that strongly reside in the Hillary camp. I have another take on this ... instead of my keeping quiet on political topics... when it comes time to defend capitalism, freedom, liberty, Ayn Rand ... I will do so, and with passion. In fact, I used to do this back in the day (in my 30's when my mental faculties worked more quickly). I just need to step on the gas again and not let the statist-liberal-anti-reason babble be put forth without being challenged. Those that find my speech and ideas offensive will likely self-extricate from my circle of friends (as they did in the past).

Speaking on "the good buzz" -- last year, I summitted McKinley with Dave Hahn (lead guide). Dave also guided Johnson up Vinson (Antarctica) when Johnson was doing the Seven Summits. Dave told the story of being somewhere in South America when Johnson offered him a sample of his new "consumables" product line. Dave tried it and said "the first five minutes were great ... then I fell into the deepest mindset of paranoia..." I expect that marijuana-laced "consumables" have a long lasting impact and Johnson likely uses his own product. I am all for drug-legalization and other Libertarian platform elements. I just wish that Johnson could more clearly articulate his message and stay on point.

So when will it not be "too early" to advance libertarian ideas in the political arena? Are we to leave politics to the statists until we have "educated" 50.1 percent of the voting population in the value of individual liberty? And who cares what crap they are throwing up against Trump? He can handle it and so can we.

Even though not a perfect vehicle for doing so, the Libertarian Party has exposed millions of people to a pro-liberty political viewpoint, and many of them have joined our cause as a consequence. Down-ballot Libertarian candidates regularly receive 5 percent or more of the vote, along with occasional winners in local elections and even in a few state legislative races. I hardly call that "accomplishing nil".

supposedly over 50% of 18-35 year old demographic is registering Independent. Perhaps that shows some progress. This largest segment (perhaps around 37%) of this demographic is
also pro-Johnson.

I notice that Hillary's camp is not attacking Jill Stein, beyond generic "don't vote third party" ads. Probably because she does not want to give Stein any added visibility as a left-wing alternative to the Democrats.

Nope.

I have seen what mormons do when in positions of power in Las Vegas, and I dont like it. Religion and Government should be separated, period.

I think that its too early to advance libertarian ideas in a political arena. Look at the crap they throw up at Trump, when he advances even a lot fewer libertarian ideas than Johnson. We have to shed off the PC mentality thats given the leftists so much power for one. Trump is like the energizer bunny, for which I have to applaud him. How many people would stand up to the establishment today ? Sanders did it by trying to advance socialism by a LOT, but not with his own money, and got squashed. The establishment has to be weakened first, and we do that by education.

I will support Libertarian ideas, and actually have been registered as a Libertarian for a long time. But, when it comes to voting for president this time, I had to go with Trump in order to give us a little more time to change peoples ideas while we still can. Hillary will make it just that much harder to elect a Libertarian in the future.

No. IMO, for exactly the same reasons AR presented against The LP and Hospers in '72. If anything, those reasons are more applicable today. Glad to expand on request, if not already presented in other comments.

Expressing in the ballot box has accomplished nil in over 40 years. That serves only to negate our philosophy, We are largely the unheard herd.

oh come on

Frankly, I could care less about Aleppo. Its located in a country thats been crazy for a LONG time, and the people who are still there deserve what they get. We should get OUT of the civil war there, period and let them all sit in their cold, dark tents until they wise up.

Hillary's camp is afraid of the truth and will attack anyone who doesnt support her. Its disgusting how she wants only power for herself and millions dont see that.

Absolutely. Hillary will make it harder to reverse the trend in 4 years. At least Trump says it like it is and fights the establishment, You can tell how afraid they are of him by the vitriol they throw at him consistently and relentlessly. I voted for him yesterday, as a member of the basket of deplorables.

Right now, Trump. Johnson cant win, so all he could do is divert votes from Clinton or Trump. Hillary will restrict more and more of our freedoms, take our wealth when we die (65% death tax), and in general make us less safe in the world and make it harder for us to revolt against bad government at home.

Never a card carrying Mormon who wants only to further mormonism onto the rest of us.

For any libertarian with reasonable debating skills, bringing out propaganda and hatred from the left is an opportunity to point out our opponents' flaws and hypocrisy. Both a political approach and an educational approach are needed. We don't need to "force feed" people with capitalist ideas - many voters already have libertarian views on a lot of issues. The Libertarian Party offers them moral support for these views and a place to express them at the ballot box.

The establishment wants to secure its OWN survival. Letting others in will only happen by force.

He just doesn't seem that he wants to compete...just wants to sit back and put a good buzz on...just my observation.

You can't convince me that marijuana doesn't adversely effect brain cells...

I saw some YouTube videos of the muslim hordes taking over Europe. Streams of animals just marauding over the landscape, fed by "refugee camps" and an entitlement philosophy based in islam. IT was very scary to watch, and I sure dont want that here.

I think immigration is OK if limited and restricted to people who want to melt INTO our society, not CHANGE it to something else. There is a "path to citizenship" already, and we should keep that. Expanding it to let in 50,000 muslims who dont want to be AMERICAN, or millions of hispanics who just want to take our goodies into some sort of socialist paradise ISNT a good idea. Britain sure found out early enough, and clamped down on open borders. Germany, under that idiot Merkel, has learned too late to save the German culture I think. Hillary, with her idea of open borders is going to do the same thing here if elected.