"it is plain to me that this is not a news item,"
Yes. I became fed up with stories about the election week ago.
https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
Since that time, the claims about sexual assault have been repeated non-critically in NYT articles. I do not agree with the way they're treating Trump.

When Johnson released a video after the second debate about his views on immigration, it seemed like watching something bizarre from ancient history. https://www.facebook.com/govgaryjohns...
It was almost quaint to hear him talk about an issue related to the fed gov't, as if everyone got the memo except for a few nerds like Johnson: The election his about acting like children mindlessly belittling each other for no reason.

I am resisting the impulse to follow the election out of morbid fascination. I'm deeply concerned that the nonsense we're seeing is one symptom of the large long-term problems of excessive govt cost/intrusiveness and executive branch overreach.

But I sure don't want a crooked liar as president of my country.

Again, realize that the average person tells two important lies a day and that married couples only lie about things that are important.

Lying is not a Christian Sin. It is a fact of reality. Get over it. Plants do it. Crustaceans do it. Even birds in the trees do it.

People may have learned purposefull lying as a consequence of the invention of writing.

Here Austin, I get liberal news from NPR (KUT-FM; and we have other "public" radio sites such as KOOP "cooperative radio.) I also get mainstream "conservative" news from KLBJ. (Lyndon Baines Johnson radio: believe it, bubba.)

It would be easy to parody NPR on this.

What they say: "Why do so many Republicans hate Donald Trump?"
What I hear: "The GOP is still a big tent where diversity of opinion brings debate, whereas Democrats all believe the same thing at the same time."

What they say: "Why are so many Clinton stalwarts hesitant about these allegations? .... Well, Myrna, it is because the allegations are allegations and allegations need to be proved, so many people are curious about these allegations which have not been proved."

What I hear: "She ought to go to prison, but will probably get away with murder... which she has, so far..."

During the same last 48 hour cycle, another 5000 or so emails were released by WikiLeaks...
Talkin' is cheap. People follow like sheep, even though there is nowhere to go..." (Tremeloes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwmov... For "her" read "America." For him/his hear "Clinton."

BTW when that was release Hillary Rodham had left Youth for Goldwater for Wellesley.
http://www.wellesley.edu/events/comme...

I have to agree. (See https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post... above.) I mean, sure, Donald Trump would be exactly the kind of guy... but, the real question is was he that guy?.

Maybe these corporate women who travel First Class are so acculturated to sexism that they they submitted to the groping, and then remained silent for 20 years, even after he declares his candidacy, and runs, and is nominated by his party. Maybe they were victimized by the horn dog Donald "I am Me" Trump. Or maybe the whole thing was scripted.

I am not a Trump supporter at all. I might not vote for anyone for President. I might vote Communist (an honest vote all things considered). But whatever else, it is plain to me that this is not a news item, but only entertainment masquerading as news.

At least not since Ms was launched in 1971. OK, some people (men) were slow to catch on, but it is hard for me to imagine a woman so downtrodden by sexism that she lets this happen and says or does nothing. I have been married twice. Either one (1971; 1977) would have had Trump de-planed, or just thrown him out the Emergency Door herself. Perhaps Democrats are not as feminist as Libertarians.

The only thing he could do, and it would take a lot of honest work...if he is honest and telling us the truth...is to point out his where abouts at the times indicated or show reasonable doubt and connect them to hiltery or any one else...seems to me, we would have heard something waaaaay before now if they were true.

I am still voting for myself...and I believe I already have a running mate lurking on line here somewhere.

the collection of arms would be VERY difficult without a house to house search !! including a lot of backyard digging

The allegations are positive statements and can be shown not to have happened. I am not sure what you mean by metaphysically possible. Metaphysics is a conceptual idea about the fundamental nature of the physical world and does not exist as something in anything but the mind. It is quite possible for trump to find objective evidence that he was not dealing in the accused ways with the women at the times stated.

Well, that's the gist of the thread from a few days ago, at which point does an otherwise peaceful society defend itself against its government? Would they give up their right to keep firearms, or would they surrender those arms and give up any future chance of defending themselves.

They want to simply take away all the guns citizens have, so they will go to the next step using the election mandate...

LOL... can't hurt us here in California, we already have far greater gun control than anything she's opposing (AR-15s are already banned) and we already have the likes of Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer, and their ilk,.

But its likely at this point Hillary will win, and all bets are off then. She will appoint liberal people in the government.

Kind of doubt it, I have a CHP Captain next door. He hates Obama, hates Hillary, hates Jerry Brown. California police endorsed Trump.

I wouldnt want to be a member of the hordes that attacked your neighborhood. BUT, I suspect your biggest enemies would be the police telling you NOT to shoot, and the courts afterwards finding you guilty of being politically incorrect in some way (racial?)

I don't know about that... I live in a pretty right-wing & affluent northern California neighborhood. We took an informal survey at a block party, 29 of the 31 homes have firearms. Several of us categorize as "many".

We had a company party in our Las Vegas office last year, I went down for it, the thing the 30 people on the team there picked to do was a day at the Las Vegas rifle range... Given the cost of Obama-ammo though, having the company buy it for a big outing was quite attractive.

I agree. I live in Las Vegas, and it could easily spread from North Las Vegas and other poor but entitled areas . Lack of feeding the entitled could result in very bad civil rioting. People in general are not geared up to defend against hordes of entitled people trying to get their 'stuff' that they think belongs t them

Didn't work out so well for Bill Cosby. I don't see how it could work any better for Donald Trump.

Alternatively, a woman could be paid to make the whole thing up, I would think.

I don't think any of us would have ever imagined police officers being ambushed or two snot-nosed white kids ambushing, kidnapping, raping and sodomizing a female cop in Missouri. While I would normally agree with you, there is definitely a slippery slope to societal breakdown. Quite frankly, as soon as the rioting expands from the poor neighborhoods to the Republican gun owners' neighborhoods, we'll see the next escalation.

Even during the LA riots, the LAPD knew to just let them burn their community down and just seal off the streets to everywhere else. Kind of like fighting a wildfire, you don't have a hope to put it out - you just have to contain it and let the fuel exhaust itself. But if the wildfire gets out of the containment, now you have a whole new problem.

depends on how easy it is to revolt. I think it starts with passive resistance. Depending on how pervasive the government NSA tools are, outright revolt could happen sooner. Armed resistance in the streets is quite a bit down the line for people on this forum, but you can see its onot far down the line at all for the entitled blacks who riot at the slightest drop in their entitlement.

As an earlier thread on this forum, when does the tyranny by a majority push the minority to revolt.

She was discredited with her lie, turns out, and I now recall, airline seats didn't have arms that lift up until rather recently (when the airlines started squishing people in and the fatty might need to spill onto the neighbor). The First Class seats had a low and wide fixed armrest, they didn't flip up.

She's also tied to the Clinton Foundation it looks like.

"What woman would simply sit in and airplane seat..." Well, a woman who is being paid to lie.

I doubt the Trump people will go quietly and just obey her and give her a mandate. She will get the 51% and declare herself queen, but I think the movement Trump gathered will go on to bedevil her at every turn. I certainly will do that.

Precisely.

I'm not giving up hope, but with the percentage of Sheeple in the US, she will probably win. Slash and Burn is the best thing Trump can do, if she wins, she will be bloodied and with no mandate.

The elites prefer a do-nothing government, Republican legislature and a Dem president tends to be good for the economy, but this one is about the Supreme Court and what would be a generational attack on liberty.