When is the proper time to resist with force?
Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago to Philosophy
Consider the question posed in this excerpt from John Ross' "Unintended Consequences"
Totalitarian regimes are wrong, so don't let the State enslave you'. That's like saying, 'Don't get sick'. The important question is, when do you know it's going to become enslavement? When is the proper time to resist with force?"
"Please elaborate, Mr. Bowman." Henry took a deep breath.
"The end result, which we want to avoid, is the concentration camp. The gulag. The gas chamber. The Spanish Inquisition. All of those things. If you are in a death camp, no one would fault you for resisting.
But when you're being herded towards the gas chamber, naked and seventy pounds below your healthy weight, it's too late. You have no chance. On the other hand, no one would support you if you started an armed rebellion because the government posts speed limits on open roads and arrests people for speeding.
So when was it not too late, but also not too early?"
"Tell us, Mr. Bowman."
"Professor Arkes, I teach a Personal Protection class off-campus, where most of the students who sign up are women. I'm seeing some strong parallels here, so please indulge me in an analogy."
"Go ahead."
"A woman's confronted by a big, strong, stranger. She doesn't know what he's planning, and she's cautious.
Getting away from him's not possible. They're in a room and he's standing in front of the only way out, or she's in a wheelchair—whatever. Leaving the area's not an option.
"So now he starts to do things she doesn't like. He asks her for money. She can try to talk him out of it, just like we argue for lower taxes, and maybe it will work. If it doesn't, and she gets outvoted, she'll probably choose to give it to him instead of getting into a fight to the death over ten dollars. You would probably choose to pay your taxes rather than have police arrive to throw you in jail.
"Maybe this big man demands some other things, other minor assaults on this woman's dignity. When
should she claw at his eyes or shove her ballpoint pen in his throat? When he tries to force her to kiss him?
Tries to force her to let him touch her? Tries to force her to have sex with him?" Henry took a deep breath and shrugged.
"Those are questions that each woman has to answer for herself. There is one situation, though, where I tell the women to fight to the death. That's when the man pulls out a pair of handcuffs and says, 'Come on, I promise I won't hurt you, this is just so you won't flail around and hurt either of us by accident. Come on, I just want to talk, get in the van and let me handcuff you to this eyebolt here, and I promise I won't touch you. I'm not asking you to put on a gag or anything, and since you can still scream for help, you know you'll be safe. Come on, I got a full bar in here, and color TV, and air conditioning, great stereo, come on,just put on the cuffs.'
"I tell women that if that ever happens, maybe the man is telling the truth, and maybe after talking to her for a while he'll let her go and she will have had a good time drinking champagne and listening to music. But if she gets in the van and puts her wrists in the handcuffs, she has just given up her future ability to fight, and now it is too late." Henry realized he had been making eye contact with all the other people in the lecture hall, just as he did when he taught a course. Now he looked directly at the professor.
"How do you spot the precise point where a society is standing at the back of the van and the State has the handcuffs out?"
Totalitarian regimes are wrong, so don't let the State enslave you'. That's like saying, 'Don't get sick'. The important question is, when do you know it's going to become enslavement? When is the proper time to resist with force?"
"Please elaborate, Mr. Bowman." Henry took a deep breath.
"The end result, which we want to avoid, is the concentration camp. The gulag. The gas chamber. The Spanish Inquisition. All of those things. If you are in a death camp, no one would fault you for resisting.
But when you're being herded towards the gas chamber, naked and seventy pounds below your healthy weight, it's too late. You have no chance. On the other hand, no one would support you if you started an armed rebellion because the government posts speed limits on open roads and arrests people for speeding.
So when was it not too late, but also not too early?"
"Tell us, Mr. Bowman."
"Professor Arkes, I teach a Personal Protection class off-campus, where most of the students who sign up are women. I'm seeing some strong parallels here, so please indulge me in an analogy."
"Go ahead."
"A woman's confronted by a big, strong, stranger. She doesn't know what he's planning, and she's cautious.
Getting away from him's not possible. They're in a room and he's standing in front of the only way out, or she's in a wheelchair—whatever. Leaving the area's not an option.
"So now he starts to do things she doesn't like. He asks her for money. She can try to talk him out of it, just like we argue for lower taxes, and maybe it will work. If it doesn't, and she gets outvoted, she'll probably choose to give it to him instead of getting into a fight to the death over ten dollars. You would probably choose to pay your taxes rather than have police arrive to throw you in jail.
"Maybe this big man demands some other things, other minor assaults on this woman's dignity. When
should she claw at his eyes or shove her ballpoint pen in his throat? When he tries to force her to kiss him?
Tries to force her to let him touch her? Tries to force her to have sex with him?" Henry took a deep breath and shrugged.
"Those are questions that each woman has to answer for herself. There is one situation, though, where I tell the women to fight to the death. That's when the man pulls out a pair of handcuffs and says, 'Come on, I promise I won't hurt you, this is just so you won't flail around and hurt either of us by accident. Come on, I just want to talk, get in the van and let me handcuff you to this eyebolt here, and I promise I won't touch you. I'm not asking you to put on a gag or anything, and since you can still scream for help, you know you'll be safe. Come on, I got a full bar in here, and color TV, and air conditioning, great stereo, come on,just put on the cuffs.'
"I tell women that if that ever happens, maybe the man is telling the truth, and maybe after talking to her for a while he'll let her go and she will have had a good time drinking champagne and listening to music. But if she gets in the van and puts her wrists in the handcuffs, she has just given up her future ability to fight, and now it is too late." Henry realized he had been making eye contact with all the other people in the lecture hall, just as he did when he taught a course. Now he looked directly at the professor.
"How do you spot the precise point where a society is standing at the back of the van and the State has the handcuffs out?"
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There was a weekly drama on tv in Australia for about 5 years called, Sea Patrol. It regularly showed attempts to immigrate illegally. This was fiction, not a reality show. Decent writing and acting, too. Much better than US reality fare.
The USA border security doesnt seem to be as strict at all, but its very bureaucratic. No prescription pills come in without an accompanying paper prescription. No bananas can be brought even in one's carry on. $300 fine for not declaring two bananas. The lady couldnt even eat them in the customs area to avoid the fine.
I did have the advantage of having found a three room house that rented for $720 a year for 27 years. That helped a lot. In the 1980s I tried health insurance for a few years, but the premiums kept increasing 15% a year so I went the rest of the time without. Since the dear citizens of the USA threatened me with prison when I tried to opt out of Medicare, I use that and have $653 a month SS which I was forced to pay into.
I have been on the grid all the time but have kept the heat down and no air conditioning until about 8 years ago. Now, things are much more expensive than what the cost of living increases would have been. For example, where I live now, back in those days the water and sewer were about $10 a quarter for 50,000 gal and today I pay $90 a quarter service charge plus about $10 per 1000 gal. If it wasn't for my luxuries like phone, internet, and cable with some premium service I would be on easy street. I also feed 8 cats and about 4 raccoons. Don't have a wife or kids, that helps a lot.
Local government here sucks. Just lost my second vehicle because it was declared a junk vehicle because it wasn't moved in every 10 day period even though it was insured, licensed, and ran OK. The house I own is 90 years old and getting to the point of needing some updating for code. But I am 76 and have some stents and will not last forever, so it isn't too hard to keep up. Hope the rest of you have it fairly easy.
On the other hand, if Hillary wins, cronyism gets really entrenched into our government, Obamacare gets changed into universal Medicare, $15 minimum wage gets in, deficit spending will increase, and Syrian refugees and terrorists will infiltrate the us. Government controls will become more pervasive and the fight to take guns away from citizens will intensify. We should look to Venezuela as the blueprint for our future under Hillary
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You might find it in the library, too.
I think it's wise for all of us to start researching other places to go, perhaps formulate a plan to get out in case it happens. I work with a like-minded guy who I go sailing with on occasion. Just today we were discussing the advantages of having a decent-sized sailboat as an escape pod. Sure, they can still chase you down, but...Anybody remember THX1138? Great movie - George Lucas' first movie. Near the end they stop chasing the protagonist, just calling off the chase because it exceeds the budget (not worth the effort). I realize this may sound paranoid. But, I'm just an apolitical guy who observes. It's clear to me that there are some real dark forces in play here now.
This veteran, this Constitutional Conservative has done more than my fair share to reverse this decline - served, commentary, radio, books. Its a lesson in futility, the people don't know who they are and they don't care what they are casually tossing away.
Slash and burn? Sit and help in sink? Shrugging, running to hide, is not an option today.
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