DTs role from the onset, I fear. Prior to the experience of DT Barum the Ds had a snowballs chance in hell of winning in 2016 thats to O's monumental failed in every conceivable way.

Today, we get a choice full leftist or moderate leftist..no constitutional candidate. Why did DT not lambaste her in the area of credibility and accountability? Why not ineptitude? Why not treason? Why did he hold back and conduct himself defensively?

2 years ago the idea of a D winning would have been laughable.

It was a pitiful, smarmy affair, that further soiled the reputation of our political discourse and the character of those that would seek to govern.

I agree. I also love Rudy, and hope if Trump is elected he puts him to good use. I am so sick of the Clinton's making millions while in the employ of the taxpayers, using their positions. Why is no one concerned over the millions missing from the State Dept. under her watch.
I am also sick of her being called Sec. of State, that is history, while she calls everyone else by their first names, it makes me boil. She wants respect, but gives none.

Thank you, OA. I was familiar with Franklin's quote but ignorant of its context, which, now that I know, makes it more salient and relevant than ever.

What do you mean by "a member of the black entitled class"?

Hello AJAshinoff,
The deliberations of the Constitutional Convention of 1787 were held in strict secrecy. Consequently, anxious citizens gathered outside Independence Hall when the proceedings ended in order to learn what had been produced behind closed doors. The answer was provided immediately. A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.” (Benjamin Franklin)

As goes the Constitution so goes the Republic...
Regards,
O.A.

The country is full of rumors . . . . People . . . don't believe the best speakers . . . . There's no confidence left . . . . that if they'll just be patient a little longer, things will improve and prosperity will return. They don't believe any public official any more.
-- Atlas Shrugged, Pt. 3, Ch. III, Anti-Greed

:)
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato

It does scare the crap out of me, and as bad as I think that DT is I find HC INFINETLY WORSE!

Didn't watch. Can't stand HC. You make a real good point and it should scare us. Your 2 bits is worth more than a buck.

Why don't you send that to him...it seems, even his advisors don't know squat either...any one of us here could of done a much better job.

Al Jazeera is an Arab channel, run out of the Emirates or something like that. They are most biased, there's no question about that. But I do appreciate and respect their presentation style - they do not threat the listener or the viewer as a total idiot who is not capable of any thought but what the media tells him. Once you watch it, you can appreciate the different attitude and could only wish that an average American could be as intelligent as an average Third World citizen.

ABSOLUTELY. The system is indeed rigged against third parties or anyone outside of the establishment. That included Sanders too. Trump hijacked the Repub party- much to their disdain.

we're in a post-constitutional era....... -- j
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Johnson's polling numbers dropped significantly after he was excluded from the debates, just as the statists who control the debates (and the media) want. They only let candidates they control into the debates.

I would agree. Hildebeast will cut jobs here with the $15/hr minimum wage and increased taxes and regulation. Trump cant do a lot to "bring jobs back". Increasing import duties wont do it, just increase costs and decrease the volume of business. Cutting corporate taxes is nice, but isnt going to make jobs come back. Johnson might just do NOTHING, which is better than anything proposed so far !!

As long as people consent to slavery under Hitlery or Trump, Johnson won't be the answer. There is a VAST, not slight, difference in favor of Johnson over the scum who participated in the debate. I agree Johnson is not Perot. Perot was a far superior presenter, but Perot quit when he had the opportunity to change America for the better. He QUIT, and only returned when he had DESTROYED his chance, just as the statists wanted. They let Perot into the debate because he was under statist control. Johnson is not under statist control.

That sounds better. I have sworn OFF CNN as being way to biased and arrogant. FOX is better, but I just want intelligent discussion, not "fair and balanced". I am tired of propaganda and agendas. I will turn OFF Hillary whenever she or her henchmen are speaking- I just dont want to fill my mind with that drivel anymore.

I like getting news on the internet, mostly because I can quickly scan and read what I want and dont have to listen to humans prattle on about their agendas.
'I have never seen the news organization that you speak of. I shall have to try it.

I voted Perot as well. Johnson is no Perot. And yes, the sucking sounds of jobs leaving is a loud, sustained,resounding, and clearly heard whistle today. Johnson isn't the answer, only slightly moreso that DT or HC,

It is a shame that the average American's mental ability does not exceed 30 seconds worth of propaganda. My attitude towards Al Jazira aside, I do value the structure of their programming - they take a particular subject and calmly, intelligently discuss it, with ample time for opposing views. You won't see that on CNN or Fox.

I thought Trump bombed. I waited and waited for him to really go for the jugular and he just kind of flailed away. He got baited into talking about his taxes for too long. Didn't go after the Foundation. When she mentioned integrity he had a great soundbite opportunity served up on a platter, tee'd up with driver in hand - and nothing... She seemed well prepared.

I could only stomach the first half, though.

so the only beneficiary of her activity is her. when she dies she will be remembered for her husbands screwing around and bengazi.

That becomes a little problematic for those of us who (to varying degrees) have thrown our support to the one candidate (Trump) who has spoken out championing the Constitution (Ex: 2nd amendment) and the protection of it by the appointment of Constitutional Justices to the Supreme Court. Many of us are very concerned about this relentless assault on our Constitutional protections. Especially by the progressive hoards on the left. If this critical plank slips off the radar, the issues surrounding its defense becomes magnified.

Yeah he really missed the moment on the tax thing.
The "helping the rich" would have been best responded to with:
"First of all, not taking money from people by force or the threat of it, isn't "helping" them, it is the right thing to do. So taking less away from them by force is still a better position. Not taking something away from someone isn't giving them things. You don't have a right to people's income, they do. To paraphrase Obama: you didn't earn that. Second, my tax cuts are for everyone, not just the rich. I don't see why you have problem with cutting taxes on everyone. Maybe its your judgement that it is ok to discriminate against people because you want what they have. But that isn't mine. Third, the whole "trickle-down" garbage was a Democrat creation, not something a Republican has ever promoted or implemented. Cutting taxes for everyone isn't trickling anything to anyone, it is the right thing to do. Unless, that is, you want to win by class warfare and dividing the country on phony lines for your benefit rather than theirs."

Everyone would have gone apecrap over that kind of response and it would be probably all we'd be hearing about today. And the "You didn't earn that" would probably become quite the quip clip.

I voted for Perot actually. AS I remember, he got about 20% of the vote. Since then, no third party candidate has gotten anywhere close to that, with Johnson at like 7%. The culture of the country has definitely degenerated. I bet most of the young people couldnt spell constitution, let alone know anything about ours.