The Incorrigibles

Posted by Herb7734 1 year, 1 month ago to Culture
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So much in the world that is evil. So much to sadden one. I wondered what Ayn Rand would think of it and write about it. She had such a high regard for what was possible for humanity. Was she right? I was sitting in my car looking out at Spring Bayou right off of the Gulf of Mexico when I spotted a dolphin chasing a bunch of fish as young couples strolled by, hand in hand and another couple were smooching over at a picnic bench.People are a strange species. They could be drugged, battered, starved, everything but murdered , but something inside them was always striving to live, to struggle out out of darkness toward the light. They are utterly incorrigible.


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  • Posted by WilliamRThomas 1 year ago
    We have to remember that in many ways, life on Earth has been getting better and better. There is more wealth, and more respect for individuals, now world-wide than I think has ever been. I, too, fret about where we are headed. I, too, see problems. But population grows, longevity extends, wealth still grows a bit, and people in the free(ish) world mostly report being happy. Those are the prizes in general. For each of us, it is living and being happy. We should keep our eyes on the prize, and ignore a lot of the noise..
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    • Posted by 1 year ago
      The problem is with those who would enslave mankind and send us sliding backward into darkness. Our progress is only a glimpse of what can be possible in a truly free society.
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  • Posted by Abaco 1 year ago
    That short paragraph is a very nice read, Herb. Very well said.

    There is something so powerful about sitting still and observing. I have learned so much just sitting with my mouth shut...haha...
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    • Posted by 1 year ago
      My wife has inherited our new car with its 6 speakers. I, on the other hand have the 11 year old mini-van with its 4 speaker. But watching the scene, while listening to music is a great way to learn by relaxing. Some people even stop and chat.
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  • Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 1 year, 1 month ago
    Consciousness is not a part of our DNA, it has to be earned, cherished and protected. It's fragile.
    We might be most amazing, deserving of being chosen...if we can keep it.

    Ref: "Life is common in creation but Conscious Life may very well be chosen".
    The Fight for Conscious Human Life.
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    • Posted by 1 year, 1 month ago
      Or...the various beliefs (Amerind, Indian) that all life has a soul (consciousness). That the consciousness is the same in all life but can only manifest itself to the degree of the life's nervous system. Life is a vehicle for consciousness and consciousness can only perform to the vehicle's sophistication.
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      • Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 1 year ago
        As far as we know, we are the only ones capable of self introspection, it's been suspected that maybe white whales and dolphins might also but I don't know where that came from.
        We are the only one's, that have the ability to modify behavior willfully because it's the right thing to do... other living animals May do so only out of fear of consequence. That is not willful, it's instinctive and still unaware of the process.
        All life is aware of it's environment but not aware that it is aware.
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        • Posted by ProfChuck 1 year ago
          From the perspective of evolutionary science things that work succeed and things that don't work fail. In a constantly changing environment adaptability is crucial. Nature has no morals or objectives, just rules.
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          • Posted by  $  blarman 1 year ago
            If one can not identify and set goals to achieve, one can not establish morality, where morality is nothing more than the actions which (if followed) lead to goal achievement and immorality those actions which prevent goal achievement.
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        • Posted by allosaur 1 year ago
          Way over a decade ago I listened to Rush Limbaugh make fun of the high intelligence mystique of dolphins. He was prepared with a sound effect as he asked if they had built anything, written any books or said anything noteworthy beyond~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLfCc...
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          • Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 1 year ago
            True, but they have not the physical requirements...think of them as the "K" in R/K selection theory...resources are abundant to them so life is cheap...I would put them in Dog category as far as interactions and adaptation abilities myself.
            Again, have no idea where that came from in relation to dolphins...maybe it was the new age left?!?!
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            • Posted by allosaur 1 year ago
              You have me New Age suddenly recalling that Star Trek movie in which space aliens came back to talk to whales that had gone extinct..
              Or maybe it was an almighty space alien probe that started to destroy the ocean in its frustration to find those wonderfully bright whales.
              The Enterprise had to go back in time to fetch a couple and to scare the hell out of whalers in the process. Me dino really like that scare the crap out of whalers with your big giant space ship scene.
              Excuse me while I go converse cuisine with some upwind stegosauri.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 1 month ago
    I was going to title this "Hope." But I realized that there will always be those who do not just hope, but actually promote life, sometimes, not even consciously. No matter how oppressed, they will strive to be happy.
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  • Posted by  $  Maree 1 year ago
    And Herb my friend, you and your wife, like myself just a week back, demonstrate that couples strolling along a beach - alive, heroic and reasoning - need not be young.
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  • Posted by  $  iriscrockett 1 year ago
    I love thinking of "what would Ayn Rand think". I love her writings in "A to Z" and can't help but think she would think, she would reason and she would take the action she thought right. Just exactly like you are saying, without changing her mind and "blanking" out, she would be proud of her actions of choosing life.
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    • Posted by 1 year ago
      With all of her sharp intellect and wit, she was still a romantic in every sense. I would have liked to spend a few days with her strolling around my favorite places while listening to her commentary. However, after absorbing all of what she's written, I think I can pretty much supply those thoughts myself.
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  • Posted by  $  DrZarkov99 1 year ago
    Humans are simply the best equipped animal on the planet, with a balance of strength, intelligence, and instinct for social cooperation superior to our neighbor species. Every time someone makes a statement about some specific capability that is completely unique to humans, we discover that other species exhibit the same quality. We are not the only self aware animal, nor the only one capable of acts of sacrifice, charity, regret, or remorse. We're simply better at exhibiting those qualities than other animals.

    We are stubborn, determined survivors, but we're also arrogant, which is our biggest flaw. Humans have a natural strain of narcissism that blinds us to danger and our tendency to make stupid mistakes.

    If we can learn to subordinate our overblown sense of self importance and superiority, we just might stand a chance of continuing to survive for a long time.
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    • Posted by 1 year ago
      I think I'd have to argue with you on certain points.
      There may be a few self-aware species, but none that can go contrary to their instincts. No horse, for example, would run into a flaming barn to save its colt. Charity, regret, remorse? I find it difficult to attribute those to animals other than man. We are better at exhibiting those qualities because for the most part we're the only species that has them with the possible exception of certain apes and perhaps dolphins. But even those may just as easily be exhibiting instinct.
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      • Posted by  $  Dobrien 1 year ago
        Hi Herb,
        I have watched video of a mother grizzly defend her cubs from a male grizzly 50% larger risking her own life. We can build a barn and the plows, tractors and combines but an animal not so much.
        Regards,
        DOB
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        • Posted by 1 year ago
          We can create A.I. robots, but creating the most primitive form of life eludes us.Dr. Z beat me up on my unbelief about animals which started me looking up about their human-like Emotions & attitudes.
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          • Posted by  $  Dobrien 1 year ago
            A Mars probe has revealed evidence of lakes and rivers of water on the red planet 2.5-3 billion years ago straddling the Hesperian period and the Amazonian period (when Olympus mon was formed) . Scientists believe it is highly likely that life was present then.

            With evolution of microbial life developing to more advanced creatures and ultimately to a dominant species. Al Gore points to the proof of the destructive results of those Martian beings . Those ancient Martians who were building , producing , growing economies pursuing happiness. They destroyed the atmosphere of the planet and caused a volcano to soar 72000" Into the Martian sky and cover thousands of miles with lava.

            Selfish Martians did it all to themselves.

            I don't think any animal could make that stuff up.
            Just thought of one the sheep that cried wolf.
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      • Posted by  $  DrZarkov99 1 year ago
        I follow research efforts and news stories about some very unique animals. One well known story is about a mother cat who reentered a burning building several times to rescue her kittens. Though badly burned herself, she survived and was fought over by many would be adopters. Just recently there was a news story about a pet dog (looked like a Portuguese water spaniel from the pictures) who shielded the family's infant daughter from a house fire. The daughter survived under the body of the dog, who died from burns.

        Crows, wolves, elephants, and other social animals have been observed conducting what appear to be funeral rituals for the bodies of their dead. I've personally witnessed a dog showing signs of grief over the loss of a companion animal several times in my life. I've witnessed animals bringing food to other animals that were injured or ill.

        For a long time we thought we were the only users of tools, until we witnessed chimps using twigs to dig out termites. Then we said were the only ones who made tools, until we witnessed crows fabricating twigs, stripping them and twisting the ends into hooks to pull grubs out of holes.

        I'm not so insecure that I must cling to the notion that we simply have to be supremely superior to other animals. Are we at the top of the food chain? Unquestionably. Are we so elevated a species as to be near deities compared to the lesser beings? Definitely not. Like I said, arrogance is our biggest flaw.
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        • Posted by 1 year ago
          OK, 'll defer to you until I have a chance to do a little research of my own. I have a friend who is studying Bonobos who might shed some light. As they say...I'll get back to you.
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          • Posted by  $  DrZarkov99 1 year ago
            While you're at it, better look into prairie dogs and dolphins. Researchers have discovered prairie dogs actually have a very sophisticated language, developed to identify dangerous and harmless creatures entering their colonies. The professor who did the research determined that the dogs could communicate the animal, the sex, and other distinguishing features, describing the clothing colors his students were wearing. He even determined that the accents and colloquialisms varied in different colonies.

            The bottle nose dolphins self identify with names, and greet others by their names. There's tons more we're discovering about these small cetaceans, and if we can decipher their language, it will be a promising step that could enable us to one day decipher the language of alien species we might find on other planets.

            There's a whole new world of discoveries for you, and don't limit yourself to the primate family.
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            • Posted by 1 year ago
              I'm going to need a way to stretch time. Since I retired, there's not enough time in the day. I have an enormous book list, I want to listen to the music of Rodrigo, participate in the Gulch as well as personal e-mails and Facebook.I need a rest from my rest.
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