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  • Posted by  $  MikeMarotta 3 years, 1 month ago
    Allow me to suggest that you read the Constitution of the United States.

    ORIGINALLY--
    "The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President." -- Article II Section 1

    HOWEVER… The 12th, 20th, and other Amendments made technical changes to this. For one thing, the 12th recognized the reality of political parties and removed the likelihood that the President and Vice President would be from opposing factions -- which, actually, could be a pretty good situation, if you stop to think about it…

    This is the kind of arcane information that the government hides on websites:
    http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/char...
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    • Posted by herk7769 3 years, 1 month ago
      The "Strange Bedfellows" rule of politics makes possible a President and Vice President from the same party who HATE each other. JFK and LBJ come immediately to mind. If JFK had not been assassinated, LBJ would have been indicted by Robert Kennedy for racketeering. Once he became President, all charges against him were dropped.
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      • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
        Price paid for accepting Votes rather than Presidential Caliber. another reason not to support Clinton. The whole lashup is strictly fifth rate and belong to a foreign and failed philosophy which has no reason to liive anywhere much less here.
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    • Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago
      Unfortunately Jonathan Gruber was right: " the American people are too stupid to understand it" And that was in reference to Obabacare. No one would understand or even pay attention to this.
      But I am glad you brought it to the Gulch's attention.
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  • Posted by  $  allosaur 3 years, 1 month ago
    According to some email and snail mail I've received--all always asking for donations--in such, especially in such, a predicted situation, George Soros will pay protestors to raise hell until O the Great and Powerful declares martial law and and, due to a proclaimed "national emergency," either serves a third term or becomes a banana republic president for life.
    Me dino won't say this ain't gonna happen but I've never donated to such mailings. I'm not too keen on paying for the real estate purchases and Caribbean cruise vacations of scaremongers if not out and out scam artists.
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
      Repeating he can't afford to declare martial law he would be the first one arrested, clapped in irons and jailed. Giving that power to the military whose only oath is to the Constitution and not another man, beast or clod of dirt would bring his worst fears to fruition. The military from his viewpoint is the biggest danger this government faces. Why hand them the legal keys to the kingdom.
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  • Posted by sailfast 3 years, 1 month ago
    Josef Dzhugashvili- Stalin said, " It's not who votes, it's who counts the votes.
    And
    Vladimir Ulyanov- Lenin said, " you will never defeat their armies, you would never get past the Hudson River. But you don't have to.
    Simply take over their education and their media (newspapers).
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    • Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago
      Yes ! And this is EXACTLY what has happened, from k-12 teacher's unions fighting charter schools to higher academia where a COMMUNICATIONS professor is video taped saying " get this reporter out of here!"
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  • Posted by brkssb 3 years, 1 month ago
    Recommended reading:
    Coonts, Stephen; LIBERTY'S LAST STAND
    And a comment: either the election is rigged, or if there is a scenario requiring senate and house involvement, we will never have a duly elected president again. (Not that I believe we have had a duly elected president since JFK.)
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    • Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago
      I'll give another book suggestion - Term Limits by Vince Flynn. Although in today's gun control atmosphere it would easily be seen as controversial. I'm surprised it hasnt been declared illegal yet and taken off the shelves ! ( kidding. sort of.)
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      • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
        Clancy had a number of solutions in his books but are there any Jack Ryans these days. I doubt it. More like Ed Kealty's who had to be patterned after Bubba Billy. in detail. I wonder what Clancy died of so young and int he same year as Vince ??
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    • Posted by  $  TomB666 3 years, 1 month ago
      And as I recall there was a lot of talk about the validity of JFK's election. It seemed that his margin of victory depended on the dead people of Chicago all voting for him - and amazingly enough they did ;-) So maybe it's since Ike?
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      • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
        True. The machine voting systems was alive and well but they didn't count on JFK being a fiscal conservative nor sic-ing brother Bobby on the Luigi and Guido factions. So they took him out. Modern Day president JFK made one huge mistake at Bay of Pigs in trusting the people under him AND in not sending in the jets. But he was dead right in ordering the military out of Vietnam. The second good one was Reagan. The rest have been mediochre to disastrous. Politicians should not be allowed to run for offices and attorneys not allowed to be in Congress nor on the Supreme Court.
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  • Posted by  $  Temlakos 3 years, 1 month ago
    The House of Representatives, with each State delegation voting as a bloc, picks the President out of the top three vote-getters. And the Senate picks the Vice-President from between the two two vote-getters.
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  • Posted by Bar-Nasha 3 years, 1 month ago
    Question: What would be the problem with an straight vote and the results by the number of votes, managed by a computer, period?
    Why do we need so many people involved?
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    • Posted by  $  ObjectiveAnalyst 3 years, 1 month ago
      Greetings Bar-Nasha,
      The thinking was that it would help avoid the "Tyranny of the Majority". This along with many other things set forth by our founders was in direct response to their strong aversion to pure Democracies. That is why we were founded as a Constitutional Republic. The progressives and collectivists like to tell us every chance they can about our "Democracy"... they are wrong and deserve our derision. The Constitution never mentions Democracy but guarantees us a Republican form of government with supposed statesmen, learned enough to help the masses avoid populist movements that would undermine four founding fundamental principles.
      Many still question the utility and necessity of the Electoral college.
      Respectfully,
      O.A.
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      • Posted by Bar-Nasha 3 years, 1 month ago
        Thanks for your answer, it's good. You're giving the Constitutional answer to the question. But, We the people don't know who got the majority of votes since the Electoral College is going to make a decision and we've seen cases when the Electoral College choes the loser. I think that the Constitution was wise in the 19th Century but, is it the same in 2016?
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  • Posted by herk7769 3 years, 1 month ago
    This has happened before. In a 4 person race, Andrew Jackson won the popular vote by a large margin, well above the number two candidate John Quincy Adams. Andrew Jackson also won the most Electoral votes beating the second place finisher, John Quincy Adams; BUT Andrew Jackson FAILED to garner more than 50% of the total cast Electoral ballots.

    The election went to the House of representatives to pick the winner. Since the Speaker hated Andrew Jackson, an "outsider", he picked John Quincy Adams as the President.
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
      I think they are called candidates. A word which provides both a perfect description but is also gender neutral. As for person..per SON Is there a per daughter? ha ha Striking a blow against left wing PC sexist terminology where ever found

      Keep up the good work and a great comment I'd give you a real + if I could
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  • Posted by  $  richrobinson 3 years, 1 month ago
    Excellent question. With the Republicans in control of Congress Trump should be the winner. There are enough RINO Rublicans and anti- Trump Republicans however to make it interesting. My guess is the Republicans will finally come together and Trump would prevail.
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
      The RInos and DInos outvoted the Constitutional Republicans 85 to 15 in the last Cave In on Dec 31st. But personally I don't care if they cease to exist and the National Socialist Democrat Labor party along with them. It's still a one party system and the RINOS will bark on command.
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 1 month ago
    I think I am ready to just give up on the USA if one of the VP candidates or someone else gets to be president. What a mess that would be. As it is, the country is divided and probably would do better to divide itself and let the divided people slowly move into their respective territories, or just not be subject to the whims of the other party.
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  • Posted by lynchpen 3 years, 1 month ago
    If people demand of Congress appointment of a fiscally responsible and anti-Fed president, then Ron Paul will be chosen.
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      Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
      Not with the RINOs and DINO's in charge. Unless he really did join the dark side. I think he got tired of being an eight per center. None of them seem interested in growing that party and those who were gave in as we've witnessed. They seem to be prone to Cave Ins and media Avalanches. No interest in substantial growth in numbers and shun any attempts to change that. Whatever it will take will be a Jack Bauer with his own Eight Billion Dollar pistol.
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  • Posted by  $  Stormi 3 years, 1 month ago
    What happens if Hillary is hauled off to the loonie
    bin the week of the election? How does that play out? What if Hillary wins, then is arrested? What happens then? We know Obama is not honorable, so we cannot count on anything but chaos with him. Soros will stir up trouble, no matter who wins, until he does.
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
      Winning doesn't 'count on the 8th. Nor does it provide protection until the noon on the 20th of January. . Prior to that the VP candidate would step up to be sworn in. Then we are in real trouble.

      What does change on the 8th is the Secret Service Detail goes full bore. An arrest warrant would not be hard to serve. She's surrounded by handcuffs.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 3 years, 1 month ago
    Let's just hope it does not happen. If you think we've got problems now, ain't nuthin' compared to what can possibly happen in that scenario.
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  • Posted by mec4cdlic 3 years, 1 month ago
    The 20th Amendment section 3 details that if no one is qualified by the Jan 20 date for the new Pres to take office, Congress has the authority to set up the succession. Congress has set it up in Title 3 of the United States Code, chapter 1, section 19 - basically the Speaker of the House is next in line but it details all the way down the chain of who takes precedence over whom.
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
      Act of succession can be changed as it it not a Constitutional amendment. It has two flaws which define who voted it into power One is no requirement for the same party voted in by ha ha the people and the electoral college is not a requriement. That's a due process problem and leaves the door open wide to a rather easy coup should for example the Democrts take the House of Representatives again. President Pelosi???
      So you have one with Major votes the President one who coat tailed in on one vote, two who don't have to be of the same party Speaker and President Temporary. the translation of Pro Tempore.

      Second flaw is all the Cabinet Secretaries. Not one vote in the lot unless you count nominated by Pres and confirmed. They should be dealing with their departments at at such a time.

      In terms of votes, same party for balance of term, and experience of some sort Senators first, Governors second and Representatives third. If not doing the complete job per Constitution stick the VP in the Senate and the house anyway as an observer onlooker and then have him or her do time in the departments. Keep them busy learning what they need to know and keep them out of the way. Only way I see to stop a palace revolt no matter which party is in power and setting up a coup. Pelosi as President crap makes Clinton look acceptable.
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  • Posted by jdg 3 years, 1 month ago
    As others have pointed out, it is mostly spelt out in the 12th and 20th Amendments. But the process works like this:

    (1) The Electoral College votes separately for a President and a Vice President. There is only one round of voting for each, and it takes a majority to win. (The 12th does not give a date, so Congress sets the date the vote is held.)

    (2) If there is no majority for President, the new House of Representatives (seated January 3) chooses a President from among the top three electoral vote getters for President. For this vote special rules apply -- a quorum is representatives from 2/3 of the states; each state gets one vote, determined by a majority of its representatives; and it takes a majority of all the states to win.

    (3) Similarly, if there is no majority for VP, the new Senate chooses a Vice President from between the top two electoral vote getters for VP. For this vote a quorum is 2/3 of the Senators, and it takes a majority of all the Senators to win.

    (4) If a President is not chosen before his term must begin on January 20, or he has died or failed to qualify, the Vice President elect becomes president.

    (5) The 20th Amendment grants Congress the power to determine by law what happens if a VP elect has died or failed to qualify, or if any of the persons from whom the House may choose a President or the Senate a VP have died before a vote may be taken. But Congress has never exercised these powers.

    I expect what would happen in these last cases is that Congress would enact such a law and the outgoing president (or after noon 1/20, a Speaker of the House become temporary president) would sign it.
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  • Posted by  $  RobertFl 3 years, 1 month ago
    There is a chance we could get a Biden/pence, or Biden/Kaine administration. How messed up would that be.
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    • Posted by Riftsrunner 3 years, 1 month ago
      No, it would be either Pence or Kaine as acting President, if the Senate decides but the House doesn't before inauguration day. Biden's term ends with Obama's term. If both houses of Congress fail by inauguration day, then the Speaker of the House is acting President.

      The problem comes in if the whole system is thrown into chaos and the election results for Congress is also delayed beyond January 3rd (their 'inauguration' day) and no decision is made be either house because then the House is effectively out power and about a third of the Senate is as well. Some legal scholars claim the remaining 2/3 are also lame, so even the President Pro Tempe of the Senate is also vacant. Though Cabinet members customarily resign when an administration changes, they are allowed to continue until replaced, so one of Obama's Cabinet could become Acting President unless there was a petition to the Supreme Court to make a constitutional decision.
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      • Posted by  $  RobertFl 3 years, 1 month ago
        The way I read it, if congress can't decide, the sitting VP is Pres, and the congress votes for his VP from the VP candidates. Biden isn't under the 2 term/10 year limit.
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        • Posted by Riftsrunner 3 years, 1 month ago
          No, as I said Biden's term ends on January 20 along with Obama. While not subject to the 2 term/10 year prohibition, the Vice President follows the same term lengths as the President. It would travel down the chain of succession until a valid office holder is found to take temporary control of the presidency until a higher successor becomes valid per the 20th amendment. The Vice Presidenct is effectively just a placeholder position in case of the incapacitation of the current President. Sure, they are President of the Senate, but their power there is relatively limited to being a tie-breaker vote, which is an extremely unlikely occurrence in today's partisan climate.
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        Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
        That's big time passing the buck instead be honest and the Congress asks in advance for the Supreme court to do their job for them. No good choices but the one we have now is fatally flawed and none of them require any particular expertise or abilites. Given the choices offered i would take a Trump or a Gates.
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    • Posted by wiggys 3 years, 1 month ago
      That might be great for us. We would have permanent grid-lock and a real excuse for the congress not to do anything as if they needed it.
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      • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
        +++ Biden? A professional clown and a groper? He wasn't chosen to be President he was chosen to be Vice President for all the wrong reasons. They are supposed to provide some votes and be so unacceptable they assassination proof the President. Hmmmm In Hillary's case reverse what I said.
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  • Posted by  $  MikeMarotta 3 years, 1 month ago
    This also explains why a write-in candidate can win a mayor's office, but not the Presidency. You are not voting for the candidate but for a slate of electors who are pledged to vote for a candidate. They can vote for whomever they wish. Republican elector Patrick Lea McBride voted for John Hospers in 1972, giving the Libertarian Party their almanac footnote 1 electoral vote.

    In reality, we should be having wide-open, highly publicized contests for electors, with people (or slates) running for those offices. Instead, the electors are chosen by internal processes at the Party level.
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    • Posted by  $  CBJ 3 years, 1 month ago
      If an Elector were to do this again, it would make the LP candidate eligible for consideration. The House chooses from among the top three candidates receiving electoral votes, even if the third-place candidate receives only one electoral vote.
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
      Traditionally those were chosen by the States. I've seen them on ballots though but ALL of then are chosen by the parties which generally means The Republican half or the Democrat half of the Government Party. The idea of campaigning for that job never took hold but if we have to have it why not? You might ask your local elections officials if you can register to run for electoral college in your state.....and let us know what happened.
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  • Posted by  $  mminnick 3 years, 1 month ago
    As I understand the rules for this happenstance they are:
    1. If no candidate receivceives the necessary electoral votes, the House of representatives will selects the President from the top three electoral vote getters.
    2. Each state get one vote.
    3. Majority wins.
    It is even more fluid than one thinks. The members of the electoral college are not bound by the vote of the stae. They can vote for whoever they please. (this may have been changed recently, but I can't find out if it has been). This has appened at lease once in the past. George Washington received all of the electoral votes. after that , I think Jefferson won all of the staes but an elector thought only GW should have the honor of wining all of the electors so voted for another person.
    One other time there was a large portion of the electors challenged and a committee of 5 was selected to certify the electors. Three from one party, two from the other. The president so elected was termined ol' 3 to 2. They have not done anything like that since.

    This info is based on the best I coujlld locate in my files qquickly so it may be wrong. Your welcome to throw rocks if ou find out I'm wrong. If you do, please publish your finding here so all may learn.
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    • Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago
      Ok, I thought this Gulch crowd would know, and you pretty much got it, but here is what I found:
      “If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.”

      http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/07...
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      • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
        Unless the VP elect is trapped in the same deadlock then it's the Speaker of The House etc.

        But it makes demanding a VP Candidate that is more than a vote getting clown.
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        • Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago
          M.A., why are all your posts being hidden ?? Do you know ??
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          • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 1 month ago
            Might as well go public since tomorrow will tell the tale. There is a rule in our group that covers complete cut and paste of material from othere sources. It's not banned per se and the descriptive wording led me to believe, especiallyas I received no direct comments or complaints or requests, that giveing full credit to the other sites http://townhall.com and their group and to the article writers was sufficient. Apparently some outfit that monitors this sort of thing filed a complaint with the operators of Galt's Gulch (the people that make it all possible) and the shut down was immediate. Four days later I received a letter of explanation. Reviewed it, complied and so stated but that was after deciding if it was a free speech issue I'd bail before giving in. It maybe a free speech issue but it was nothing to do with GG production and everything to do with how the internet is being run by whomever. Therefore you noticed you have to push the switch as I can still post, I cannot vote up or down therefore the plusses and minuses nor can I delete until this is resolved. the line you read is somewhat peculiar and leads people in the worong direction as with 19,000 plus I'm hardly ignorable or ignored. So a letter went out on private which was not blocked and then of course it's the weekend which means wow Nothing can be done until Tuesday!

            In the meantime the following is a portion of and is in line with the rules of the gulch. Clinton continues to fade and Trump continues to gain Johnson is staqnant. ten look at the second part.

            President

            Election 2016 Clinton Trump Spread
            RCP Poll Average 46.0 42.1 Clinton +3.9
            4-Way RCP Average 41.3 37.9 Clinton +3.4

            as compared to yesterdays which had her at one point with only 1.3

            In electoral leads by 75 at present.

            Trump leads in 18 States up three form yesterday

            The one's showing Clinton with a +8 or so are Polls not national averages

            Polls with 3 or less for Clinton 29.

            There is no information on the criteria for being polled nor if the responder was citizen or not, a voter or not other than saying so . In that respect they are all skewed unless the polls are just not giving away trade secrets.

            As of midnight eastern Clinton is in a slide trump is building steadily

            Electoral College Clinton Trump Spread
            RCP Electoral Map 229 154 Clinton +75

            What I really need is the spread state by state. and the responder criteria the above are all the Real Clear people who are a compiler of all the polls I didn't count the total but it's easily over a hundred.

            Still most of the polls except for a few that are blatantly slanted show much the same conclusion and most are trying to explain it away AKA spin.



            Also some of the reports in other sources such as WSJ clearly state the sourc an RC seems to head the pack.

            270towin has it 42 Trump 46 Clinton 12 other. 16 states for trump and 11 at five or less separation. They do have a difficult to rapidly lead state page.


            CNN's latest Poll of Polls finds Hillary Clinton's lead over Donald Trump has been cut in half, with her post-convention bump wilting in the late-summer heat.
            Clinton holds an average of 42% support to Trump's 37% across five nationwide telephone polls conducted between August 9 and 30.

            Reuters IPSOS

            Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has pulled into an effective tie with Democratic rival Hillary Clinton, erasing a substantial deficit as he consolidated support among his party’s \likely voters in recent weeks, according to the latest Reuters/Ipsos national tracking poll released Friday.

            The poll showed 40 percent of likely voters supporting Trump and 39 percent backing Clinton for the week of Aug. 26 to Sept. 1. Clinton's support has dropped steadily in the weekly tracking poll since Aug. 25, eliminating what had been a eight-point lead for her.


            That should give you a start point and some explanations it's all in what they can do in the 8 1/2 weeks for sure two things will happen.

            You TV Addicts will get your channels back is one.

            Until then it's Snowflake the Shrinking Violet vs Wonder (what he's going to pull next! )
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 1 month ago
    I have the same question. I imagine it would give them a chance to pick an "establishment" candidate, but if they went too far from whoever won the plurality of the popular vote and electoral college, people would be very angry.The sensible thing to do would be to pick who won the plurality, but I suspect they would not do that.
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