Myers-Briggs

Posted by cadalyyn 7 years, 9 months ago to Culture
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A thought crossed my mind while driving home yesterday. Are certain personality types more likely to hold Objectivist values than others?

Personally, I was thinking in terms of Myers-Briggs personality types. I am an INTJ and have always leaned towards logic and trying to make all of my emotions rational and logical to the situation. Maybe, because this is my personality, I was more likely to be drawn into Objectivism and similar ideals.

What is your opinion on this and/or (to get an idea of how many of us share the same personalities) what are your personality types?


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  • Posted by Kittyhawk 7 years, 9 months ago
    I tested around a year ago as an INFP. (I saw there was another INFP posting here.) While the I was firm, the other classifications were very close to a 50-50 split. I also had taken the test in college, about 30 years ago, but don't remember those results, unfortunately.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 7 years, 9 months ago
    What is an INTJ ?
    I do not know what or who Myers-Briggs is.
    As to personality types, people who, as children
    and adolescents, are rational and honest sometimes tend to get hurt by others because of
    this. (At least, I think this was true in my case). They also may be accused of being "selfish!" quite frequently. (Or, in a class discussion of a
    character in a fiction work in English class, may
    hear a character accused of being "selfish"
    for merely standing up for him/herself). Such a
    person may very well have trouble getting along
    with others. And somebody like that may be more receptive to Objectivism.
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  • Posted by Enyway 7 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "There you go, man. Keep as cool as you can. Face piles of trials with smiles. It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave, and keep on thinking free!"
    Graham Edge, Moody Blues drummer
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My mother tried to raise me Catholic. By first grade I was noticing inconsistencies. They whole praying thing for example. If you prayed to Mary , that would get you more than praying to Jesus. I was wondering just what one got, I made a quiet deal with God. I wanted this plastic dump truck toy so I figured if there really was a god, praying every night for a month should convince him to put one up in the attic in a special place no one knew about. I said nothing to anyone about this deal and I prayed for the month. When no plastic dump truck appeared I concluded either there was no god, or if there was one , praying was useless. But if I didn't do what the priests said, and there was a god, I was going to hell forever.

    Back then the church offered a deal. If I went to communion on 9 consecutive first Friday's. I would get the chance to repent just before dying- and then could escape hell !! I did the 9 consecutive first Friday's and then was free of the whole thing.

    Now I realize the folly of the whole catholic religion . What a thing to put children through !! It's cruel
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 7 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was born an Objectivist/atheist. Even at the age of 3, I would not believe my mother claiming I had an invisible guardian angel nor the rest of her Catholic indoctrination and attempts to make me say prayers. Nor her assertion about the Easter bunny. It always bothered me that she would lie to me.
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 7 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I tested INTJ, too, though on the cusp of at least two quadrants. Oh, and I can read palms, too. Tell you all about you... :)
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  • Posted by cranedragon 7 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The "J"? And not the "T" part? I've always taken the attitude: I think, therefore I'm an Objectivist.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 7 years, 9 months ago
    to help out people like me....

    Personality Types | 16Personalities
    https://www.16personalities.com/perso...
    Bold, imaginative and strong-willed leaders, always finding a way – or making one. ENTP Personality (“Debater”). “Debater”. ENTP (-A/-T). Smart and curious ...
    ‎INTJs · ‎INFPs · ‎INFJ Personality · ‎ENFPs
    Briggs Myers' 16 Personality Types: In-Depth Profiles & Free Quiz | Truity
    www.truity.com/view/types
    Isabel Briggs Myers created the sixteen personality types with the help of her mother, Katharine Briggs, and the theories of psychologist Carl Jung. Since then ...
    ‎INTJs · ‎INFJs · ‎INFPs · ‎INTPs
    The Myers & Briggs Foundation - MBTI® Basics
    www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personali...
    The purpose of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator® (MBTI®) personality inventory is to make the theory of psychological types described by C. G. Jung understandable and useful in people's lives.
    ‎Take the MBTI® Instrument · ‎The 16 MBTI® Types · ‎Judging (J) or Perceiving
    Myers–Briggs Type Indicator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers–B...
    Jump to Structured vs. projective personality assessment - A chart with descriptions of each Myers–Briggs personality type and the four dichotomies central to the theory. Katharine Cook Briggs and Isabel Briggs Myers extrapolated their MBTI theory from Carl Jung's writings in his book Psychological Types. A diagram depicting the cognitive functions of each type.
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  • Posted by minorwork 7 years, 9 months ago
    Don't see much use for this unscientific Meyers- Briggs fad. Might as well use astrology. Look at the test's history. Was a modification of Jung's categorizations done after Katherine Briggs read Jung's 1921 book PSYCHOLOGICAL TYPES. Jung had people dropped into one of four basic buckets. Neither Briggs had formal education in any subject related fields. Isabel Briggs Myers was Katherine Brigfs' degreed political science daughter. They decided that each person probably combined elements, so they modified Jung's system and made it a little more complex, ending up with four dichotomies, like binary switches. Any combination of the four switches is allowed, and Myers and Briggs reasoned that just about every personality type could be well described by one of the sixteen possible ways for those switches to be set. https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4221

    The confirming impression that Briggs-Meyers is an accurate test is due to an effect we all must be wary of for we all are subject to it, the Forer Effect, after psychologist Bertram Forer who, in 1948, gave a personality test to his students and then gave each one a supposedly personalized analysis. The impressed students gave the analyses an average accuracy rating of 85%, and only then did Forer reveal that each had received an identical, generic report. Belief that a report is customized for us tends to improve our perception of the report’s accuracy. http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-n...
    Does not speak well for the test being derived scientifically and it isn't. It's pseudoscience palm reading. Want to experience the Forer effect for yourselves? Use color to "determine" you personality characteristics and be amazed. http://www.colorquiz.com/

    Analysis of the present glut in cult personality testing. https://www.amazon.com/Cult-Personali...
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  • Posted by Flootus5 7 years, 9 months ago
    Is there a simple way to take this test?

    Back in 2007 I was sent to a charm school called the Center for Creative Leadership in Greensboro, North Carolina. They based a 3 day workshop in part around the Briggs-Myers personality classification. I was sent because my boss at the time was telling me I couldn't communicate. I had been warning the production folks that a certain highwall in a coal strip mine in Wyoming was at risk of massive failure if they continued to ignore slope stability protocol. I began in a written memo backed with monitoring data, and then verbally on a weekly basis in morning line-out meetings. In June the wall completely failed. Three thousand feet long and five hundred feet back. Twelve million dollars in lost production and thankfully no one hurt.

    The workshop was the most bizarre Orwellian experience I have ever been through. One way windows with cameras behind filming everyone's demeanor and performance. And then review your performance while mutually the film and pointing out where you were combative, evasive, or at fault in some way. Prior to attending I had to pick a list of 12 people (peers) that would do an on-line Q&A session about me. My boss was able to pick 5 more of his choice. The on-line results were all tabulated, scored and summarized before we got there. In several major areas, everybody's response clustered on a graph with my own self evaluation. But my boss was way out in left field. At the end of the workshop we individually met with a "counselor".

    The guy assigned to me said we have a problem. My assignment was to approach my boss with the results and mutually hammer why might be. And report back. Forget it. Within a year I had a knew job.

    I can't remember what I classified as. I was so put off by the whole thing I dismissed it all. And then I learned that major employees were starting to use Briggs_Myers results as hiring criteria. Needless to say I was not impressed with the whole thing, but perhaps I had a bad experience because of the shock collar...err....charm school approach.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is one of the 16 personality types defined by the Myers-Briggs test. There are two options for each of the letters.
    Extraversion (E) or Introversion (I)
    Sensing (S) or Intuition (N)
    Thinking (T) or Feeling (F)
    Judging (J) or Perceiving (P)

    INTJ is defined as:
    "Introversion + iNtuition + Thinking + Judging.
    Vision oriented, quietly innovative, insightful, conceptual, logical, seeks understanding, critical, decisive, independent, determined, pursues competence, improvement"
    by the Myers-Briggs website.
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 7 years, 9 months ago
    I agree with whoever in the thread already said it was "hooey". It pains me to think that on on a site devoted to a philosophy of Individualism anyone would pay the least attention to something that reduces you to 4 letters, based on a small number of generic questions. (I've taken the test, required in a class.)

    Just my individual opinion.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 9 months ago
    There might be some links between personality and propensities toward differing values.

    When I first read Genotype by Dr. D'Adamo I learned that certain Genotypes/bloodtypes have slight, predictable personality traits. the idea here is the different chemicals used by the DNA or the part of the strands that are active or read by the body and is determined first, by bloodtype and then your resulting genotype. (based on common measurements, head and body shape, partially determined in the womb.)

    But, that only points to a level of probability and can be influenced by upbringing, family dynamics and...wait, wait for it, you may not believe it...the food you eat.

    Do not discount this body of work until you read the book.
    I found by reading his books, I understood myself better than all the road trips I took in my teenage years to "find" myself.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually they added an A or T at the end for some tests so that it is five letters now instead of 4. At least 16personalities online did
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  • Posted by $ jdg 7 years, 9 months ago
    I have a copy of "Please Understand Me" and every time I look at it I am more convinced that Myers-Briggs is hooey, or at least needs expanding to cover more types of people than they recognize. This is one of the same problems astrology has: there are more than 12 kinds of people in the world.

    Using the quizzes in the book, I come out to be a type that it says cannot exist: IXTJ, a hybrid of the Logical and Artisan types.
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