Ted Cruz does not endorse Trump Based on Principles

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago to Politics
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Aside from the issues and facts that Mark presents; what about the constitutional values we expect our presidents, our presidential candidates and our representatives to pledge unswerving dedication to...their fortunes, their most sacred honor or their lives to. Isn't that much more important than the "Party"?

I have to laugh even though it's a bit sicking, they booed when Cruz said: "Vote your conscience" "Vote for the candidate you trust and a candidate that will adhere to the constitution.
Kind of makes one think. By the way...that pledge?...was discarded March 29th by the Don himself...

We find ourselves here in these times because we haven't adhered to the constitution...have we not?



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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, it wasn't Cruz. The Utah billboard you are referring to was put up by an unaffiliated PAC and the woman responsible acknowledged it at the time. Trump just saw the billboard and jumped to a conclusion - a conclusion which was demonstrably wrong and upon which he doubled down with his "lyin' Ted" mantra.

    Go back to the original RNC debate. Cruz was asked at that time to say what he disliked about Trump. Cruz's response "I'm wearing a Trump tie." Then he chastised the moderator for trying to get the candidates to attack each other.

    The political attacks started with Trump. He initiated them. He pushed them - especially through his media buddies like the National Enquirer. You support him if you want. I'm writing in someone else.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Tabloid Trump Tactics - TTT, inspired by Saul Alinsky and carried out with relish by his minions. Shameful and disgusting.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He got booed because the people in the crowd were told to boo him by Trump's own people. Reporters talked before the speech with several people on Trump's payroll who were whips being paid to incite specific feelings to speakers' comments! Trump had Cruz' speech days in advance. Cruz wasn't even going to speak until Trump specifically asked him to. It doesn't take a genius to see that this was a setup.

    "he was encouraging people to vote against trump "

    Quote me line and verse where Cruz did any such thing. He didn't. Good grief - its clear you didn't listen to Cruz' remarks nor even bother to read a transcript. It's beyond pathetic.

    I understand you're a Trumpster. You've been one from the beginning. You're anti-Cruz. That's your choice. But at least be objective. Do your homework. READ about things before commenting. You'd end up having your shoes at the end of these conversations.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I question if any of them are pro Constitutional Republic oriented. Not something you can safely be in the left wing be it the Dinos or the Rinos.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In it for himself..."Damn, they are killing the economy and taxing me to death, I lost 500 million dollars. I'll fix that, I'll run for POTUS. I'll get my money back and them some."

    Not a big stretch.

    DT doesn't need help with is ego.I do think DT would have the audacity to stand on the temple mount and tell the Jews they can thank/praise him for their peace. Yeah, I think he's that kind of megalomaniac.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Which proves there is no such thing as freedom of religion or in hillary's case lack of religion or in Obama's case too many religions
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You clearly took from what I said what you wanted to make points from.

    "This is fine in business, not as POTUS when you have 320 million people counting on you. If he's elected and If he serves the people of this nation he will do good things, BUT if he has a choice between serving the nation or serving himself we're screwed."

    I am entirely for self-interest, thats Objectivist, thats Conservative, AND thats entirely American. POTUS is not a job for self interests its a service job for the people of the US.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump as a conservative? You must have a VERY different definition than I do.

    A Conservative would never have supported the Brady Bill. Trump did.
    A Conservative never would have used his political connections to enjoy the fruits of eminent domain. Trump did - several times.
    A Conservative never would have supported Hillary Clinton. Trump did.
    A Conservative would have been able to cite actual powers relegated to the Federal Government by the Constitution. Trump only managed one of three (defense) while failing miserably on the other two (education and health).
    A Conservative would support defunding Planned Parenthood. Trump won't.
    A Conservative would stand for traditional marriage. Trump doesn't.
    A Conservative wouldn't advocate continued use of Executive Orders. Trump does.
    A Conservative would have taken the call to elect Constitutionalists in a campaign speech as an endorsement. Trump instead bristled.

    "So the GOP are really Democrats if you want to really get down to it."

    And finally you say something with which I agree 100%. Trump is a Democrat, now running against a Progressive (Clinton). There aren't any Conservatives to pick from.

    And if you still want to stay on that "must endorse train", I'd agree with Cruz that before that ever happened Trump would have to apologize - not only for going after his wife, but for his father and the whole "lyin' Ted" mantra. That was way beyond politics. That was "nasty" - another word Trump used often against his opponents but which applies to him in spades.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What does being a left winger have to do with principles. Ah yes I see it now. Rephrase. What do party principles have to do with personal integrity? Nothing.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You thought they were any different from the other left wing socialist party with a penchant for fascism? One is statist/corporatist and the other corporatist/statist. One is the left wing of the left and the other is the right wing of the left.
    Cruz chose to lie with swine and got dirty. What did he expect. Bernie knew he was dirty when he jumped in the slop trough. Smalll insignificant difference. What? Cruz thought he'd be treated special.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Standing up for his principles is not stupid. Handling it by going to the convention and making enemies seems stupid to me. It could work for him if Trump fails in a big way, but other than that, I think he's shot himself in the foot.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Distilled version they were booing themselves. Why? For havinig chosen evil in what they consider to be a lesser degree. Just like the thirties. Russia got Stalin, Germany got Hitler, My parents got FDR. All three countries got concentration camps.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And your point is what? That Trump shouldn't be called on his positions or his below-the-belt tactics? That one person should be held to one standard while another is given a pass simply because he wins?

    I notice that you chose to ignore my points about the Constitution seeming to matter to only one person - that person not being Donald Trump. That tells me you aren't nearly as interested in Trump's position as merely denigrating Cruz. That's all I need to know, really.
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  • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Also isn't that in the spirit of Ayn Rands' Selfishness and her endless lecturing on the virtue of selfishness?

    I would think you would be praising Trump then for his selfishness.
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  • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Really> in it for himself? What is he personally gaining from this run. He has already lost over 500 million in deals, i.e. Profit.

    He has to give up his 757 Jet that is much nicer than AF1, he has to give up his helicopter which is way nicer than Marine one, he has to move out of his Gold plated Penthouse,, he gives up all the personal privacy and freedom he had to go where and when he wants without Government documentation around him. Before this run he was able to get on the phone and call any world leader he wanted to and probably get answered faster than Obama.

    And before you say he gains for his ego how is that bad? Do you think a person with that level of ego would not work his damndest just to look at you and say TOLD YOU SO!!!
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If it was not Cruz it was his "staff (Team Cruz)"--wink, wink, nudge nudge-- who put out that risque magazine photo of Trump's wife before Trump did anything as a spouse reprisal.
    Believe I do recall reading that Cruz was playing up to the evangelical Christians at the time.
    It was all, "Hey, Brother Believer, see how naughty Trump's wife is?"
    Yeah, I'll grant Trump was more vicious. Hit Trump? Trump hits back harder. That is the way he is.
    Yeah, he had every right to speak at the convention. Shoulda? .
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    DT is not a conservative.

    DT is an opportunist and he's a businessman. He lacks principles and is entirely in anything for himself. This is fine in business, not as POTUS when you have 320 million people counting on you. If he's elected and If he serves the people of this nation he will do good things, BUT if he has a choice between serving the nation or serving himself we're screwed.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It looked like he picked up his marbles and went home after his. "Stop trump" campaign failed
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