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  • Posted by strugatsky 11 years, 1 month ago
    Using physical force against someone is, generally, not excusable. But understanding the reasons is also a generally good idea. Let's put it this way - if a person decides that they want to physically change their sex, for whatever reason, why should this be advertised? Change your sex in private and there is no reason why strangers should even be aware of it. But, more often then not, being private about it is just not good enough. They need to advertise it; they need to make a statement; they need to rub in to all others. Why? They are challenging other people, so why are they surprised that others respond? Did they really expect the response from most people to be hugs and kisses? Really?

    I have a person at work who is in the middle of his/her transgender transformation. OK, fine, I don't really care that much which bathroom he/she prefers at the moment. What does bother me is that in a professional organization this person comes to work in less than mini skirts and other dress attributes that would get an award on Times Square and in every way tries to provoke a response and then immediately complain to management. So, really, this is not an issue of sex change, but of behavior and constant challenges to everyone around. BTW, on the website where this story is published, notice the reference to Obama: "President of Our Hearts Barack Obama Proclaims LGBT Pride Month" - again, do they really expect everyone to embrace them?
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry to disagree, but I have trouble with people passing judgment on others because of their looks... Ever talk to any of them, rther than judge from afar? I bet... none of them bite. --shrug-- I've hired some of those kids, not on their looks, but on their KS&A's... talked to them and found them fascinating. Sometimes brilliant.
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  • Posted by Lucky 11 years, 1 month ago
    I will join Map here in being appalled.
    The question of whether the person was truly of the sex they portrayed is not
    relevant, an assault took place, it was unprovoked, bystanders became voyeurs and not defenders of the victim.
    There may be a few old fuddy duddies here who (like me?) find a lot objectionable, orange hair, rude words in tattoos, not being sure if a person dressed as sex A is in fact sex B,
    such is life.
    As our younger generation say- 'Chill it'.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The question of whether the person was truly of the sex portrayed is relevant to the veracity of the article. Where they a "pre-op"? Were they a drag queen who claimed to be trans once they were assaulted?
    The claim is that they were assaulted because they were trans... but again, how did the assailants know? Were they assaulted in a "normal" mugging, and then stripped once they were somehow found out?

    Hey, I don't agree with "hate crime" laws, but if we're going to have them, they should at least be applied accurately.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 1 month ago
    So were the assault victims women or men? You and the article are unclear.

    I have to wonder how the question even came up?

    This sounds terrible. Almost as bad as what happened to Twana Brawley...

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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 1 month ago
    that was awful. Tempers are high in a small space, lots of people. That people stood aside and did nothing was evil.
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