The God Question
As some of you know, there are a number of people in the gulch who follow a religion, but also follow the principles of Objectivism. At least that is what they say. The following is an except from Rand which clearly states her position when it comes to God. I would be interested to know how the religionists get that square peg into the trapezoid hole.
"They claim that they perceive a mode of being superior to your existence on this earth.---To exist is to possess identity. What identity are they able to give to their superior realm? They keep telling us what it is not, but never tell us what it is. All their identifications consist of negating: God is that which no human mind can know, they say - and demand that you consider that knowledge-God is non-man, heaven is non-earth, soul is non-body, virtue is non-profit, A is non-A, perception is non-sensory, knowledge is non-reason. Their definitions are not acts of defining, but of wiping out."
There's more, lots more, but knowing this, I would be interested in finding out how one can claim Objectivism as a philosophy while holding a religion as a philosophy as well.
"They claim that they perceive a mode of being superior to your existence on this earth.---To exist is to possess identity. What identity are they able to give to their superior realm? They keep telling us what it is not, but never tell us what it is. All their identifications consist of negating: God is that which no human mind can know, they say - and demand that you consider that knowledge-God is non-man, heaven is non-earth, soul is non-body, virtue is non-profit, A is non-A, perception is non-sensory, knowledge is non-reason. Their definitions are not acts of defining, but of wiping out."
There's more, lots more, but knowing this, I would be interested in finding out how one can claim Objectivism as a philosophy while holding a religion as a philosophy as well.
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Of the voluntary kind the kind of organizations
That the founders of this country
Envisioned as a safety net for the mentally or
Physically handicapped.
Instead of a welfare state.
While I agree that that many aspects Of ALL organized religions are evil.
I know of many wonderful loving productive inventive people who are Christians.
I don't demand people think like me.
and I damn sure don't let others make me think like them.
Excuse me while I drive over to Jimmy Hale's Mission in downtown Birmingham and torment all the sheltered homeless people.
I'll stop donating so they can't eat also.
The basic concept being that since Religion, God, Supreme Being, Answering only to thyself is paramount you in essence would have over 7 billion separate moralities always in conflict with no standardization at all except the individual concept of reason.
Reason if taken to the individualistic extreme, would also validate the liberal mindset since they apply their own morality, and reasoning and their own version of logic which is just as diametrically opposed to Ayn Rand, as are some of the people here in the Gulch expressing their own personal version of reasoning and morality.
THAT is the flaw.
I think you've confused me with someone else. I would never say the right to self defense is a flaw. It is one of the few legitimate times to use force.
However, there are so many posts on this topic, I'm not sure that yours was meany for me.
(Gimme a Tylenol)
Particularly the Catholic version. There is almost as much chicanery in the politics of Catholicism as there is in Washington. It's just quieter.
The argument that you started was about the incompatibility of religion and capitalism. While deism is not equal to Christianity, it is a form of religion that is compatible with capitalism, thereby refuting your argument.
You are the one spouting revisionist history. In fact, I almost said so in my previous response, but did not do so out of professional courtesy.
You just saved me from making a response. Thanks.
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