What About Black Lives Matter?

Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 6 months ago to Culture
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For two years the protest movement called "Black Lives Matter" has caused demonstrations all around the nation. It was triggered by the police shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, MO in August of '14. It holds that racist police are the greatest threat to young black men. This has triggered riots, and the murder or attempted murder of police and an attempt to eliminate grand juries when police use lethal force.

The U.S. Justice Department has completely disproven that Brown was merely a Gentle Giant and was shot in cold blood while trying to surrender. Even though it was shown that Brown had just stolen from and intimidated a store owner and was charging at the officer who shot him, and had attempted to get the officer's gun, he is venerated as a martyr.As a result, officers are backing off in the face of the hatred which is relentlessly directed at them on the street and in the media. As a result, violent crime is on the rise. The question becomes do the police pose the greatest threat to young black men? Or is it the far greater threat of black-on-black crime?


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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Police should find non lethal ways to immobilize perps who are a danger to other people. They dont have to kill them right off. This is 2016 and its hard for me to believe that bullets are the only way to take care of this problem. Cops like to shoot people I think. They hire cops who get a thrill out of it.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Police in this country dont protect individual rights. They only show up AFTER the crime has been committed anyway and typically start shooting. Then there is a big investigation to figure out who is guilty of violating a law or laws. Its kind of a useless exercise.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago
    I am tired of the black entitlement movement in all its flavors. The government has coddled black people into thinking they are something particularly special and deserve special treatment over and above the rest of us.

    Its not an issue of black, white, yellow, or whatever. People are people. If they say 'black lives matter", I say "white lives matter just as much".

    All this has made me just want to NOT live around the entitled culture, whether black or white. There must be someplace in the world that is nice to live in that doesnt have entitlement (other than an uninhabited desert island)
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  • Posted by jk1212 9 years, 6 months ago
    Kinna reminds you of the whole Horst Wessel background, doesn't it?
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Racism and bigotry in its public incarnation virtually no longer exists in America. Privately may be a different matter, but I would bet that even there it has diminished greatly. The only exception seems to be anti-Semitism, which is growing here and abroad. However, that becomes another topic.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    70% or 80% -- is there really much difference? I confess I heard the 80% on a radio show, and you may be correct, but does it matter if its 74.5% or anything near that figure? It is the same shameful result.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think it all depends on who is doing the measuring, but either way it is still way too high and disproportionately high when compared to Hispanics (50%) or even Caucasians (40%).
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  • Posted by skidance 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I thought it was 70% of black children are born to single mothers. Has the percentage increased lately?
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 9 years, 6 months ago
    The greatest threat is the policy of warping an incident, any incident, to create a division, in this case, racial strife. The government is good at that.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 9 years, 6 months ago
    The greatest threat to young black men is our current government...the police are merely the "face" that people see, on a daily basis.

    If the government would stop trying to "help" the poor, this whole issue would eventually die. Sure, we'll still have racism and bigotry, but on a substantially smaller and more manageable scale.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What black activists also don't want to tell anyone - or admit - that incarceration probability statistically correlates to no single factor more than the lack of a father in the home. And with 80% of black males being born to a single mother, it is no wonder whatsoever that they join gangs and end up in prison.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You can clean shit off your shoes. Unfortunately, in the case of our discussion, you'll need to get a new pair.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    80% single families. Hard work and education denigrated. Cultural icons sport the foulest language and images, and glorify a world of degenerates. And the spokespersons for the black communities defend that behavior, accusing those who disagree of not being truly black. If there are any blacks in the Gulch, I surely would like to hear from them. If not --- why not? That would be a whole 'nother topic.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Dear Z:
    Accurate and profound.
    As mega methods of communication take over and electrons deify words through easy and speedy sound and image, truth, lies, and nonsense are spewed out with equal gravitas, making the rational and the inane seem equal.
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    Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 6 months ago
    In 2015 police killed 1,207 American citizens/rresidents, and so far this year, 427. See: http://www.killedbypolice.net/kbp2015...

    In 2015, 13 police died from gunshot and so far this year, 18. Though that number includes accidental, fraudulent suicides, and friendly fire incidents. See: http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-f...

    In my opinion, the skin color of those deaths is the least significant data of all. I'm personally tired of any side in this issue trying to advantage their group or beliefs based on an individual case, culture, ethnicity, inequality, or any other "ity".

    The fact is that we hire, train, and license police for the avowed purpose of protecting the individual rights of all residents of this country at all times in all circumstances. That includes the license to use force after a crime (initiation of force against another) to apprehend the guilty person to stop the force and/or bring the guilty person before a court. Our judicial and criminal system is predicated on the requirement that the state has the duty to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that an accused is guilty in court before he is punished, not based on the perception, mis-perception, error in home address, or mis-deed of an LEO in the heat of the moment.. The reason for all of that is to protect our freedoms against tyranny and/or misuse of that very judicial and criminal system.

    In recognition of the potential danger to the individual LEO, we provide extensive training in why and how to contact and/or apprehend an American resident accused of a rights violation, offensive (both lethal and non-lethal) and defensive equipment, and even the use of psychological techniques. All of that is so effective that of some 900,000 to 1,000,000 LEO's with innumerable public contacts per year, the mortality is less than that of roofers. LEO's don't even rank in the top 10 of dangerous jobs.

    However, we've allowed our Constitutional protection of individual rights legal and justice system to be so inverted, subverted, and perverted that the most insignificant basis for LEO contact (walking in the street by a teenager. selling a cigarette, 12yo child playing with a toy gun, your address being invaded in error in the early hours of the morning, a broken taillight, even a rude response to the LEO, etc., etc.) can and does result in the use of excessive and deadly force against the citizen. Yet the state, the agency, and the individual LEO will face no repercussion in some 96% or more of cases.

    And we're discussing whether LEO's or other black men are more dangerous to black men? How easily we are led by our noses into trivial nonsense and away from the real danger facing all of us. Our life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and our unalienable rights are no longer a matter of concern to those that we elect, hire, and license to only protect those rights which we all possess by virtue of our birth. They actually fight us to further limit them if not outright eliminate our belief in them. I fought and killed and watched friends die within a foot of me halfway around the world, came back to public ridicule and hate, and still made an Objective success of my life--all to be labled a potential terrorist by those we've made responsible to protect my individual rights. And now at this stage in my life, every time I see a Police Cruiser I watch to see if he turns around and comes after me.

    How ignorant, simple minded, and propagandized have we become that instead of seeing the reality in front of our faces, we look where we're told at what is of little or no significance, while the reality we're no longer seeing is our liberties and rights being boxed and locked away to leave us as no better than compliant slaves.

    That's it folks, come one-come all, watch my left hand wave in your face while my right takes your wallet out of your pocket. Ta-Dah.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Our black Americans were a mere generation away from full assimulation into American society (except for the demoncrapic south) when teddy, taft, and woodie put a stop to that. The so called "Great society" shoved them all into the cities which gave them a reason to riot, steal, murder and sell and do drugs,(as Dobrien has noted)...from birth they are denied their own consciousness and it perpetuates itself. Yes, it's still no excuse and they are still accountable.

    Only those that had a halfway decent upbringing have escaped it.

    Don't know about you but I never realized this until the last 20 years or so...before that, we rightly criticized their behavior...not the color of their skin.

    We fell for the ruse of the left also...
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  • Posted by Dobrien 9 years, 6 months ago
    Herb to answer your question" do police pose the greatest threat to young black men"?

    In the time period 1/09 to 12/31/12 police shot and killed, justly and unjustly 112 black men and during the same time period black men killed 4472 other blacks according to the DOJ.
    This fact should provide a reasoning individual the answer. It should also cause that type of individual to realize the damage the "great society" has done to the black community. It has destroyed for the most part the 2 parent family. The lack of role models , education is not valued , a victim based mentality , no work ethic , riot and loot when a perceived injustice occurs. The flame of anger fanned by civil rights leaders and the president in the case of Michael Brown. These so called leaders never telling their constituency that their behavior has consequences. Oh and gangs kill more Americans than terrorists likely ever will.
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