Rush: Trump Will Beat Hillary, Perhaps With A Landslide

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I've listened to Rush Limbaugh on my car radio since the 90s.
When it comes to Rush talking politics, I've learned not to ignore even what he calls a gut feeling.
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  • Posted by  $  Thoritsu 3 years ago
    He can, but he has to change his approach. The mud slinging wild west approach that won him the primaries will not win the general election. He has to move to being more professional, and remain the agent of change outside Washington, and make Hillary out to be the status quo, which she is and worse.
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    • Posted by term2 3 years ago
      I agree that he must remain the agent of change, but I would disagree he has to be "more professional" (whatever that means). He is the rebel, people voted for him on that basis, and he needs to keep on pressing ahead. Now that he invaded the repub party, the establishment people in the party want him to change and be like them (to let them maintain the party power).

      I say we are seeing beginnings of the dissolution of the two party system in the USA. We dont need the parties now that we have social media and the internet, and it should be one person=one vote with no phony
      "delegates" to help maintain party power at OUR expense.
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      • Posted by  $  Thoritsu 3 years ago
        Hillary will tear him apart and look like an adult vs a wayward adolescent if he continues to throw around insults. She will be ready for this, and the will play the "hitting a girl" card. She is not dumb, even though she is a nasty, totalitarian, socialist, constitution evading harpy.

        Some, almost universally less educated, republicans voted for Trump. The broader population is not going to go for this behavior when they are thinking of the person with their finger on the trigger.

        Regarding your other statements, I agree we need more parties and better choices. Not sure about the one person one vote. I am more of a state power guy, and the republicans haven't won a popular vote in a very long time. Socialism would be on us in an instant.

        Regarding "professional". It means of relating to or connected with a profession, synonym white collar. My intent was specifically to exclude making off color comments about women's cycles. The adjective is not too hard to understand, but the prior behavior is pretty hard to defend in any executive in the course of work, much less the chief executive. This kind of nonsense puts him in the company of indicted heads of state all over, and makes him completely vulnerable to the Hilde-Harpy.
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        • Posted by term2 3 years ago
          Hillary is a reincarnation of the self-serving Nixon, who hid his actions all the time so people wouldnt know. She does the same thing. The whole e-mail thing was solely for that purpose- so she could quietly delete whatever might hurt her image. She has been involved in so many bad things that eventually they will come out.

          Trump is not a woman hater at all. Check out Ivanka, his daughter. He just said with Hillary that "womanhood" is not a qualification for the presidency any more than manhood would be. She twisted and turned it, but I think people are not so stupid as to accept his actual statement as being against women.

          As to having a trigger finger, that is ridiculous. He would never have gotten ahead in business if that was his way of acting. I was much more worried about Obama on that score. Hillary would just let the other countries just walk over us and she would never fire back.

          If we had an ironclad constitution, which we dont, and it was adhered to, this whole presidency thing would be a boring selection of an administrator.
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          • Posted by  $  Thoritsu 3 years ago
            I didn't say Trump was a woman hater. I said his comments were unprofessional (inappropriate if you prefer), and left him vulnerable. In addition, my comment about finger on the trigger was not my opinion, but one the general population will be concerned about. You are welcome to advertise that his business acumen demonstrates this isn't an issue, but I doubt you'll convince many.

            My point in all this was noting what needs to happen to get him elected over Hillary with the masses, not what my opinions are about voting for him.

            My own opinion about him is that his present fortune and four bankruptcies demonstrate that he has less success in business than most businesspeople. If he had taken his trust fund and invested it in an S&P fund, he'd have even more money now. His biggest successes have been paying off politicians to get what he wants. Hardly the sharp-eyed strategist.

            However, he is better than Hillary, and can win if he changes his childish tactics.
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            • Posted by term2 3 years ago
              He is NOT politically correct, and shouldnt be. They arent childish tactics at all- the establishment needs to be shown for the power hungry policies it pursues. They are the ones who are childish.

              The woman hater charge was leveled by the Hildebeast crowd.

              I am so tired of the people who constantly dump on trump when they should be dumping on the wicked witch of the west Hillary. I do hope we dont get Hillary. I think I would indeed shrug at that point.
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    • Posted by MinorLiberator 3 years ago
      Absolutely agree. He smartly avoided any further debates once the field narrowed, but if he takes on Hillary (if it's Hillary,but anyone, really) she'll clobber him. I detest her and her ideas, but they can't be opposed by trite slogans and, as you say, mudslinging. I just hope he's educatable...I've never really been impressed at all by his "accomplishments", and he's shown no substance whatsoever. Even bad ideas will defeat no ideas...
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      • Posted by  $  Thoritsu 3 years ago
        It is amazing to me. Trump was pretty my least favorite R candidate, and Hillary is my least favortie D candidate (Bernie is economically nuts, but socially wants to leave freedoms (e.g. 2nd amendment); he will accomplish nothing, and is at least "honest"). Hillary is a disgusting lying totalitarian harpy.

        Now it is down an unpredictable, shoot-first guy, and an unconstitutional, lying socialist with a clear history of government mistakes.

        I hope Donwaldo calms down, listens to some good advisors and starts wooing the Bernie crowd as an agent of change with comments for "more affordable" college (not free. there is a numerator and denominator here). Make the college themselves into the villians with presidents and professors salaries and lack of interest in undergraduate education. He can turn the entitlement issue on its head with words like "opportunity" replacing "free" and some simple Milton Friedman statistics.
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        • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years ago
          Honest but misquided and wants to follow a path which has consistently failed everywhere and is currently failing in the USAA. Hone in his beliefs maybve but his beliefs are neither practical nor pragmatic but fairy tales requiring magic wands.. the dreams of uneducated college students yet to grow up and face reality. He is Toby Tyler as are his flock.,One pats them on the head and sends them back out to play.
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    • Posted by conscious1978 3 years ago
      So, if we ignore the reality of what we have heard with our ears and seen with our eyes, from Trump...and if he 'acts' more "professional"...that will make him worth voting for??? If he Acts more 'presidential', then that changes him into a different person philosophically?

      It's not shocking, but still a bit surprising, to see people buy into this chameleon-like morphing.
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      • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years ago
        Why not people do it all the time. A friend of mine described it this way. Any good politician and that includes an attorney in front of a jury and judge must present at the same time a different facet or reflection to each of the others. Designed to get the bulk of their point across without losing favor with any of the group. Do that you win the case or get elected. The rest is BS.
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  • Posted by  $  AJAshinoff 3 years ago
    Yes, Rush is remarkable astute with his estimations. Even so, on this I think he's wrong. Trump and Hillary are the same beast. The difference is that Hillary is sincere and has a voting base that doesn't care if she tells bold faced lies (violated law or even kills people). Trump will be weighted by Rs and by Conservatives. He can only peddle so much BS and move left only so far before the people he's courting, those beyond his "base" acolytes, abandon him as a NY moderate/liberal.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 3 years ago
    non-farm payroll for april was below expectations...the economy is slowing to a recession...voters vote jobs...no jobs, the party in power is usually kicked out...the Fed will meet again in June, but with just a .25 interest rate, there is not enough room or time to turn things around...Trump is in the right place at the right time...not that i support him...he is an opportunist and a pragmatist...
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    • Posted by term2 3 years ago
      You must think that Hillary (or the rest of career politicians) are not opportunists and pragmatists. With her $268 million in investments made by her "investors" in exchange for political favors when elected, she is bought and paid for.

      At least Trump spent his own money and isnt beholden to anyone (one of the reasons the establishment hates him so much).

      You can always say that a popular leader is in the right place at the right time- or he wouldnt be popular !! Cruz just didnt have the popularity required at this time, so he dropped out. And blew $100 million +- doing so.

      I am voting for Trump to break up the entrenched establishment and tell us when the emperor has no clothes. For 4 years- then lets see how he does. CANT be worse than Hillary or Sanders.
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      • Posted by MinorLiberator 3 years ago
        Sorry, I disagree. I may hold my nose and vote for him, but he is just as much an insider and part of the Establishment as Hillary, only on the crony capitalist side of the equation. And believe me, he is quite beholden to a lot of people, including Democrats and Liberals. She's just a whole lot worse, and he may actually have some chance of learning and doing something good. I was Anybody But Trump and Anybody But Hillary until a few days ago. If it comes to it in November, I will remain Anybody But Hillary.
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        • Posted by term2 3 years ago
          He is a business insider, but definitely NOT a political insider. We desperately need a political outsider to shake up the entrenched bureaucracies and power centers that are controlling us all behind the scenes. If Trump just looks around and speaks his mind on things, that will go a long way to making me happy. I have no idea what goes on in real time in our government, but I think they are all up to no good. Trump spent his own money on this so far which I think is a good thing.

          Trump is also like 70, richer than he ever needs to be, and I almost think he is doing this to help the country. That might be wishful thinking, but I am very impressed with his kids after watching them on the CNN town hall a few weeks ago. I say the apple doesnt fall far from the tree. They are great kids, particularly his daughter Ivanka.
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          • Posted by MinorLiberator 3 years ago
            I understand what you are saying, but still disagree. I lived in both NYC and NJ from the 70's through the 90's, Trump years. IMO, you simply cannot "make it there" in his two big success areas, real estate and casinos, without playing the political game in full force. While he may not have been a "politician" per se, the reality is that he simply could not have succeeded as he did without political pull - making him a political insider. It's simply not possible. And we won't even go to his huge political contributions to both parties. An outsider that does not make. A true outsider would give to no political party, and if you say he "had to", you've proved my insider point.

            Don't get me wrong, I hope you're right, and I hope he is doing it for the country. But you can have all the money in the world, and still mean to do harm to this country and Capitalism. See: George Soros, Bill Gates and a whole line of rich bastards who support the Far Left...Trump is not necessarily in the same category, but there is also no evidence that he's not. Early in the campaign someone called him a RINO, I said, and still say, he's worse: he a ?INO...
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            • Posted by term2 3 years ago
              well, I live in Las Vegas, and its very crooked here too. I had to buy the building department head a trip to Alaska to fish for him to let me build my house. Do I blame trump for paying off the damn politicians? Absolutely not. So did Rearden and Dagny when it was needed to get them out of the way. A real "insider" would be the one accepting the favors, not one that has to pay for them tho.
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              • Posted by  $  CBJ 3 years ago
                I live in Las Vegas too, and the political system in Nevada is totally broken. Two of the last three Republican governors have rammed through huge tax increases for “education,” to the delight of Democrats statewide. It’s gotten so bad that a Republican state legislator has defected to the LP and will be running for re-election as a Libertarian. Our political system needs a shakeup at all levels. Trump’s not perfect but he is orders of magnitude better than Hillary on most of the important issues. For example, check out his position on health care:
                https://www.donaldjtrump.com/position...
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                • Posted by term2 3 years ago
                  That clip on Trump's approach to healthcare is not perfect but is MUCH better than Obamacare. My premiums have tripled and my deductible by a factor of 2.5 and my max out of pocket by 6x since Obamacare came in.
                  As far as I am concerned I would never vote for Sandoval for anything. He put in two terrible taxes out here under the guise of "education for our children". That was a sham.
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                  • Posted by  $  CBJ 3 years ago
                    Sandoval is the poster boy for everything that is wrong with the Republican Party, and why it is unfit to continue in its present form. If Trump succeeds in tossing out the current crop of party "leaders," more power to him. If he proves unsatisfactory down the line then he can be replaced also. But the GOP in its current incarnation is done, and rightly so.
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      • Posted by mia767ca 3 years ago
        i think Trump should appoint HillaryBeast as fund raiser for the debt in his administration...we would be swimming with surplus...i would even give her a 10% finder's fee...
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        • Posted by term2 3 years ago
          The first think I want is for Trump to beat Hillary. The second is that he exposes the nonsense in our establishment and tries to fix it. The third is that he appoint the best people to make good decisions in government free of cronyism. The fourth is that he get rid of useless regulations and lowers taxes on corporations and middle class. Hillary isnt going to do any of these things.
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          • Posted by mia767ca 3 years ago
            let's hope he does all that and more...but the title of his book is...the art of the deal...the good thing is that he has worked with both parties to get business deals...the bad thing is that he has worked with both parties to get business deals...reagan commented after his presidency that he was happy if got 70% from the democrats of what he wanted...
            the most recent disturbing statement from Trump was his willingness to raise minimum wage...that shows a complete lack of understanding of economics...
            HillaryBeast is 8 more years of Obama-style dismantling of free market system...
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            • Posted by term2 3 years ago
              Actually Trump said he "would consider raising minimum wage". That sounded like pablum to the media. He can consider it as he would consider anything else, but do nothing about it. I sincerely hope he doesnt increase minimum wages. We alreay have plans to cut our workforce the day it goes into effect and buy more labor from china. Our labor bill will stay the same in the USA.
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  • Posted by  $  blarman 3 years ago
    We'll see. Trump has to win the support of his own party first, and that is anything but a given.
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years ago
      Especially the part that counts. The leadership and their backers. That does not necessarily include the members. After all popular vote isn't counted to find the winner in these elections. It's the electoral college or vote of the delegates or the openly undemocratic pro fascist vote of super delegates.

      We'll have to see what the leadership and their backers decide they want and the objective may be something entirely different than what you read in the news.
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    • Posted by  $  CBJ 3 years ago
      Trump doesn't need the support of the party "establishment" that has given us Democrat Lite ever since Bush I took office. Their failure to defund Obamacare even with large congressional majorities shows that the party is better off without them. So is Trump.
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      • Posted by  $  blarman 3 years ago
        Actually, he does. He needs their money. So far, Trump has put little of his own into this race to begin with and there is speculation that he doesn't have a lot in liquid assets to begin with. If Trump really were going to finance the whole thing himself, he wouldn't have bothered with the Republican Party and just gone independent from the beginning.

        Here's my second question, however: How is Trump also not a Democrat in principle? Other than his newfound support for the Second Amendment and his wall, nearly every other policy is identical to that of Hillary. Nominating Trump isn't going to move away from the "Democrat Lite"...
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        • Posted by  $  CBJ 3 years ago
          Is Trump’s health care policy identical to Hillary’s? Looks like the total opposite to me:
          “Completely repeal Obamacare.”
          “Modify existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines.”
          “Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.”
          “Allow individuals to use Health Savings Accounts (HSAs).”
          “Require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure.”
          “Remove barriers to entry into free markets for drug providers that offer safe, reliable and cheaper products.”
          “The reforms outlined above will lower healthcare costs for all Americans. They are simply a place to start.”
          https://www.donaldjtrump.com/position...

          How about taxes?
          “If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax.“
          “This new tax code eliminates the marriage penalty and the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II.”
          “No business of any size, from a Fortune 500 to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living job to job, will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes.”
          “No family will have to pay the death tax. You earned and saved that money for your family, not the government. You paid taxes on it when you earned it.”
          https://www.donaldjtrump.com/position...

          Does any of this sound like Hillary?
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          • Posted by  $  blarman 3 years ago
            http://humanevents.com/2016/05/09/the...

            Completely repeal Obamacare, yet he supports government-run healthcare.
            “Modify existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines.” See above. I'm in favor of it, just skeptical that it will ever be proposed by Trump. Same as with the rest of this. These are great policy lines, but what he is actually saying in speeches causes me to believe that he didn't write any of it.

            Same with Taxes. I support the policies outlined, I just don't see him advocating any of these points from the stump or in interviews. What I do see him advocating is:

            - more debt - to get our economy on track.
            - defaulting on/refusing to pay our debt (a position not even Hillary will touch)
            - that education is a fundamental role of government
            - that the rich should pay more in taxes

            These are all positions he has advocated for openly in interviews, while I haven't heard anything of the policy positions from his website. Nope, nein, nada, nil. If he isn't talking about them on those shows, why should I believe HE really advocates for them?
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  • Posted by Herb7734 3 years ago
    Trump Should beat Clinton in a landslide. If she is not indicted on myriad felony charges, then she should be beaten as far back away from the presidency as possible. If Trump can make this vividly clear, then even the low information voters should get the message. If they don't, then the Idiocracy has started and there's no turning back.
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  • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years ago
    There will be no landslide. Start with the pool of available voters. a bit more than half don't register. Many have good and valid reasons as they are not represented and their votes will be stolen by and twisted into something else by wiunner take all crowd. So there are some who could become part of the active side if they had some leadership and or representation.

    So about half register. a large chunk of them do not vote many for much the same reasons or they confine themselces to purely local issues.


    but of those that do the last figures I could find showed 23% GOP 28 % Democrat and 46% non -affiliated (independents. Libertarians and a few others take up the rest of it.

    Since only the GOP and the Demos are allowed on most ballots a bit more than half of those registered or one quarter of the available voting pool bother to vote. and a smidgen for the Libertarians.

    I'll call that one 28% to be kind with the two allowed candidates dividing up 25%

    To win it takes a plurality or the majority of those voting but not a majority which wiould mean no one would win already.

    So 14% plus one of the available voter pool is all that is necessary to win.

    Let's suppose the split is as much as 15 to 13 with the rest going to winnere take all. or or maybe 18 to 13 percent.

    That's a landslide? No. A mandate? No. it's a crappy little minority electing a President.

    It's a show of no confidence

    It's a clear win for None of the Above.

    even at 25 to three which isn't going to happen it's at best a joke.

    But it's all that is need EXCEPT it's only the popular vote which has no legal standing anyway.

    At the most by a long stretch the electoral college could produce a n EC mandate if something like Hillary being handcuffed and indicted occurred or Trump going overboard and pulling a Steve Martin at his acceptance speech wearing nothing but boxers.

    Sorry Rush the only landslide is a vote against rigged elections and taxation without representation.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 3 years ago
    Rush is an entertainer.
    He deserves as much serious attention as Alec Baldwin.
    (I admit I'd rather listen to Rush and mute Baldwin instantly.)
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years ago
      comparing anyone to Baldwin is a really cold thing to do. My dog thinks with more reason than Baldwin.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 3 years ago
        What kind of dog? Our Lab/Pit could definitely beat AB in retrieving tennis balls from the pond.
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        • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years ago
          Any dog I went by their HQ in Norfolk Area one time on the ICW - no sign of life. Then went by on the street side. - no sign of life. Walked up to see what they had. For a name of PET A they are not at all the friendly folks one would have hoped for but the send $$$ sign smell was in the air.

          Maybe they would have been more polite and welcoming if i had arf-ed on the floor and shown a SAG card.
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  • Posted by  $  3 years ago in reply to this comment.
    So to you Trump is the door-kicker for a wrecking crew as yet to be appointed.
    The craven weasels who run the mainstream GOP do deserve to have their fiefdoms wrecked.
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    • Posted by term2 3 years ago
      Same needs to be done with Democratic Party. Sanders cane close to kicking their added actually. Sanders support is a real wake up call for us. The minds of a lot of the young people have been hijacked by statism already
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  • Posted by Lucky 3 years ago
    If wishes were horses then beggars would ride,
    If turnips were swords I’d have one by my side.
    If ‘ifs’ and ‘ands’ were pots and pans
    There would be no need for tinker’s hands!

    Old Scots nursery rhyme.
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 3 years ago
    Sounds to $5Au like Mr. Limbaugh is engaging in wishful thinking. Mr. Trump might win in November, but it is highly unlikely he could win in a landslide. That would require a major shift in the present electoral college alignment. His negatives are just too high. Mr. Rubio might have pulled off a landslide victory had he not beached himself on immigration and lost the primary. Of course, these are uncharted waters given Mr. Trump's performance thus far, so $5Au could be off base. $5Au almost said "off the reservation," but that might be offensive to hotel clerks who might read this and have to flee to safe spaces and therapy.
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    • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years ago
      A landslide is impossible without the 46% who aren't taking part. Simple math All that's needed to win is in the area of 18% of the available voter pool to get a majority of those registering and voting. The rest are voting for the other guy or voting for None Of The Above and that and it's been trhat way increasingly for years is the only group that will landslide or mandate anything. Zero confidence vote from the get go.'

      Not voting for either of these two is not the same as not voting they are spitting on the system.,
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  • Posted by term2 3 years ago
    Both Trump and Sanders (as well as a number of politicians in europe) have identified a great upset on the part of the electorate with the establishment power structure and actions. For good reason. A lot of what the establishment does is hidden from view and mired in cronyism and power protection- at our expense.

    This is a crack appearing in the current statist system, and should be exploited. Although we cant expect instant conversion to objectivist principles (witness even Cruz bombing in his campaign to return to constitutional principles), we can help exploit the failures of current socialism and statism. Trump and to a certain extent Sanders are doing that. Sanders wants MORE socialism as the answer, while Trump wants less. The tide is coming in for some real change and we should ride it rather than fight it.
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    • Posted by Sp_cebux 3 years ago
      Careful..., term2.

      You must look past the numbers to see what's going on.

      Recall how Trump won the nomination (presumably). He won it primarily in the states that permitted cross-voting: Open Primaries. In closed contests, Ted Cruz fared much better.

      We have heard accounts, numerous accounts, of democrats crossing over to vote for Trump. The news media, and Rush as well, love to attribute this to enthusiasm for Trump. But is that really what's going on?

      Will those same democrats show up to support him in the general election? FOX, Brietbart, Rush, et. al., love to think the ol' Reagan Blue-dog Democrat swing is in play this year... leading to an upset of drastic proportions for the Republican party this year. I dare say, this has been a ploy all along. No... Trump is not a Democrat mole. Trump's history and past far outspeak Donald's current futile attempts at conservative rhetoric. Still, I do not believe he is a mole. I think he is, however, a tool for the Democrats.. for the Clintons in particular.. to win the White House for the Democrats this November.

      Recall that Donald and Bill had a conversation prior to Trumps entry in to the nomination race. No, Bill did not tell Donald to run, per-se, but Bill and Hillary know what they are doing. They (Bill & Hillary) knew how to a.) push Donald's buttons in to running, and b.) get him the nomination. Bill and Hillary knew from early 2015 that Hillary already had the Democratic Primary nomination locked up. Bernie is/was/has been just for show. Therefore, the Clintons knew they had plenty of political capital to throw Trump's way in Trump's push to get the Republican nomination. That engine went in to full gear in the open primaries. Droves of democrat voter drones flooded over to vote for Trump... and no one else. Only Trump. You never saw/heard stories of former Democrats crossing over to prop up Cruz. No, they supposedly glommed on Trump's "Make America Great Again" speech, or promise to Build A Wall, etc. Didn't really matter---when they came over, it was only to Trump.

      Rush touted Trump as a populist. He took endless calls of supposed "conservatives" and "former democrats" alike claiming of boundless admiration for Trump. Trump could do no wrong. Meanwhile, it was Cruz that had far out-done Trump in the ground game. Trump had rallies. But, Cruz had a ground campaign going in every state. Is it any wonder why Cruz totally out-played Trump in the delegate selection process up to the day of Cruz's departure? Whether Trump's team was incompetent or Cruz was 'unfairly' sticking in his supporters, the real truth of the day is, in most of those Open Primary states, Trump won from the graces of the Clintons sending over their minions to vote for him. In the party box one day, voting for Trump, out the next and back to the Democrats.

      The Washington Post and others reported that Donald called the Clintons just prior to running. (Source: http://wapo.st/1ObdUL4) Is it any stretch to conclude Donald called in a favor easily converted by the Clintons - to help Donald win the Open Primaries and secure the Republican nomination? And, yes, it was an easy transaction to conclude for the millions Donald's donated to the Clinton Foundation over time.

      Sure - you will find a few devout Trump supporters here and there touting their devotion to conservative principles, like term2 and others here. But, they have been duped by the media (Rush included) that Trump's bringing Democrat deserters to the Republican party en masse.

      The Rush to throw accolades on the Trumpster are far from reality. The Clintons have set him .. and the Republican party up. All they need to do now is cash in this November. Buh-bye country.
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      • Posted by  $  CBJ 3 years ago
        Your theory that the whole election is a setup by the Clintons can easily be refuted. How can they “send over their minions” (tens of thousands of them) to vote for Trump in the primaries without it becoming widely known? And how many Democrats are willing to go to the trouble of re-registering as Republicans just so they can cast a primary vote for Trump? In Pennsylvania alone more than 46,000 Democrats switched parties primarily due to Trump. Have you heard anything about them switching back after the primary? http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/0...

        In addition, every crossover primary vote for Trump is one less potential primary vote for Hillary. Did she deliberately lose Wisconsin to Sanders so that Trump could achieve a blowout victory there?
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        • Posted by Sp_cebux 3 years ago
          They are not required to switch back... not even immediately. The general election does not care which party you belong to... its entirely the decision on the voter to vote D or R or write-in in November. Sorry, your argument has no logic to it.

          Hillary does not need votes... ever. She had the nomination sewn up before they even started thinking of running in early 2015. All the Super Delegates were hers.. all she needed was a few more. Cripes, she walked away with MORE delegates than Bernie did in his 'landslide' victory in New Hampshire!
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          • Posted by  $  CBJ 3 years ago
            How logical is it to believe that the Clintons have the power to orchestrate both the Democratic and Republican nominations? Do you really think Hillary wants Trump unloading on her daily for the next six months, harping on her vulnerabilities that more “polite” Republican opponents would have downplayed for fear of being labeled sexist or racist or xenophobic? Or that Sanders is a shill for Hillary, and that her image and political capital are not being eroded by his string of recent primary victories and his constant attacks on her Wall Street connections? Or that tens of thousands of rust belt Democrats, sold out by their party leadership, are eager to switch parties and vote for Trump in order to pave the way for a Hillary victory in November – and to hide the fact that they are doing so? And if the Clintons are such expert puppet masters, why can’t they make the email scandal go away?

            RE: “Hillary does not need votes... ever.” Sure she does. She needs votes in the primaries to demonstrate her popular support and ability to win in November. Sanders’ recent victories, especially Indiana, have called her electability into question. And her reliance on superdelegates will undercut the legitimacy of her nomination in the eyes of many in her party.
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            • Posted by Sp_cebux 3 years ago
              Wake up. Seriously, get a cup of coffee and wake up.

              Sanders is but a place-holder for the Dems. He's there to continue to push and gently harass Mrs. Clinton so it seems like she had a hard fought victory come the Democratic convention. Sanders never had a chance no matter what his supporters may think.

              Therefore, the Clintons turn their attention to the field of ~15 in mid-2015.. they look and find the most beatable of the Republican field and spend time/effort propping up that candidate.

              Hillary cares not what Trump might say, she's just going to shrug it off like anything anyone has ever said or accused the Clintons of doing. If Ken Starr cannot seal the deal and get Slick Willy impeached, then there is nothing the Clintons cannot do to face persecution. This email scandal is a slam dunk for ANY mediocre D.A. Yet, its taken YEARS... YEARS to come to a conclusion. Its been nearly 5 YEARS since Benghazi happened and hardly a finger has been pointed in her general direction. Sure, Trey Gowdy has given her a grilling here and there, but what of it? She's still running for the presidency.

              Take off the blinders. Go outside. Get some fresh air. When the Trump-kool-aid wears off, we'll chat more.
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              • Posted by  $  CBJ 3 years ago
                Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Your theories require that the Clintons have the power to control everything that happens in the R and D parties, and those theories ignore all the evidence pointing the other way (which is pretty much all the evidence, period). If the Clintons are really as powerful behind the scenes as you suggest, how in the world did Hillary manage to lose to an upstart like Obama eight years ago?

                I’m sure the Clintons would love to have all the influence and control that you ascribe to them, but a realistic assessment shows Hillary to be an out-of-office, widely mistrusted politician facing numerous ethical and legal issues, including one that has the potential to instantly derail her path to the White House anytime between now and election day. Hillary isn’t a cinch to lose, but she’s looking more vulnerable by the day.
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          • Posted by  $  3 years ago
            It was Hitlery winning 6 straight coin tosses that really pooped of outhouse scented methane.
            That was back about when I saw a cartoon of the Teflon tit-willow and Bolshevik Bernie standing side by side both dressed like boxers.
            Killery was all beat up and Bernie did not have a mark on him.
            The referee representing the Dimwitcrat Party pointed at the punched out hag and cried, "We have a winner!"
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            • Posted by Sp_cebux 3 years ago
              Yes, and it was that night that neither my brother nor I could recognize even 1 of our Democrat neighbors heading in to their caucus rooms that night... that's when it all made sense to me.

              Hillary was driving them in from out-of-town, and they were not checking IDs, as I heard from other democrat friends that night that voted for the Bern.

              And, yes, miraculously, somehow, later that night, she had the infamous 6-coin-toss win over Bernie. Although Hillary still came out with 30 delegates to Bernie's 21, with an essentially split vote total... which, is questionable on so many accounts.
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              • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 years ago
                Two wrongs will not make anything right. What a waste of brain power to even discuss these cheating lying privileged Looters!
                Neither has ever produced any thing but body waste and bad results.
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      • Posted by term2 3 years ago
        Interesting theory I have concluded that the entire election process is crooked. From the parties themselves, the primary process, right through the electoral college sham. It needs to be scrapped completely. One person=one vote period. Vote for anyone who is registered to run. Count the votes and determine the winner. Winner has to win by some reasonable percentage.
        I would never vote for hildebeast because she is plain evil, Cruz because he is power hungry and sneaky, or sanders because he is a wack job. I hope trump wins this time because he just speaks his mind and isn't beholden to contributors. Also because his kids are amazing and the apple doesn't fall from the tree. I am ready to shrug and be done with all this. The USA is going to crash
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        • Posted by Sp_cebux 3 years ago
          You are infatuated with his kids?!?!? Who Eric with the grease-ball hair-do that highlights his incompetence in his attempts to look like 'Dad' ? Or Ivanka for her model looks? Wonder why she's always by Daddy's side on the lectern...

          If kids make a president... wow.. I'm glad you're limited to one vote.
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          • Posted by term2 3 years ago
            Perhaps you didn't see the cnn town hall with Anderson cooper with the whole trump family. If you had, you would have seen very articulate and intelligent offspring. I knew nothing of his children before that and was totally surprised. The significant thing was the way all of his children talked about how their father raised them. Anderson cooper was his normal arrogant self trying to make his interview subject look bad, and he got shut down by trumps kids all by themselves.

            I can tell you are a 100% trump hater, and you probably won't get to see this town hall, but it was a good demonstration of pretty good parenting.

            This whole election process has made me realized how flawed the process is in the USA. If John galt himself were running for president, he would receive unbelievable criticism before he ever got a lick of praise. The only ones that are accepted today are true statists and evil witches like the Hillary YOU are going to wind up with in a few minths
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            • Posted by Sp_cebux 3 years ago
              I can tell you are a 100% trump dreamer, and you probably won't get to see the reports on Trump's real history -- with donating (http://wapo.st/1SIvRxf) .. with other people's money and not following through with his promises (e.g., in 2009 -- not honoring a $1 million prize if someone made a hole-in-one in one of his tournaments. Someone made a hole-in-one. Trump settled (something else he claims to 'never do') for $158,000 with the guy who made the shot.

              Another shady side of Trump. He began his campaign in mid-2015. One of his first campaign stops was hosting a party for veterans aboard the USS Iowa. Tickets went from $100 ~ $1000; not one dime has made it to veterans. Ditto for his veterans event in Des Moines where he claimed to have raised $6million for veterans... still less $3million has been accounted for.

              Trump runs his 'charities' in the same precise manner as the Clintons run their Foundation.

              Care for more?

              Trump's character has more flaws than Bill Clinton giving a sermon as a marriage counselor. And, you want this guy to assume the highest office in the land, .. because he was a good father?
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              • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 years ago
                Pick your poison . Sanders has never had a real job always sucked on the govt teat. He will break the constitution , destroy our economy and blame something or anything for the devastating results his plan will achieve.
                Hillary lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie cheat cheat cheat lie lie some more with plenty of evil actions like Benghazi in between the lying and cheating.
                Trump a privileged inheritor an egotistical, ignorant deceiver a fascist lying leftist looter with delusions of grandeur.
                We lose no matter what the result of this media manipulated election.
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                • Posted by Sp_cebux 3 years ago
                  So you're just going to look past the facts and create an image in your mind.. the lesser of three evils?

                  I'm not saying the Dems are better. I would not exonerate Hillary for one moment.

                  The whole point of this thread is that "Trump wins in a landslide" according to Rush.

                  My counter is that that is not so. My counter is not to support Hillary or Sanders. My counter to Rush's statement is that it is a false notion given Trump's own baggage. And none of you Trumpsters care to LOOK at what he's done; who he is; who he claims to be. The discord between Trump's actions and Trump's words is wider than the Gulf of Mexico. Yet, you pretend it does not matter... Trump will part the Gulf of Mexico for everyone. *Great... *
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                  • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 years ago
                    I repeat ,We lose no matter what the result of this media manipulated election.

                    You say "And none of you Trumpsters care to LOOK at what he's done.Yet, you pretend it does not matter... " your previous comment "Yes, and it was that night that neither my brother nor I could recognize even 1 of our Democrat neighbors heading in to their caucus rooms that night... that's when it all made sense to me.
                    Hillary was driving them in from out-of-town, and they were not checking IDs, as I heard from other democrat friends that night that voted for the Bern."

                    Manipulated election...... Not Checking ID's
                    I say "Trump a privileged inheritor an egotistical, ignorant deceiver a fascist lying leftist looter with delusions of grandeur."
                    If that makes me a Trumpster what do you call someone who likes him?
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              • Posted by term2 3 years ago
                If not trump then hildebeast. Perhaps sanders could be worse than hildebeast, but trump is much much better than either of them. His major function will be to upset the establishment power structure giving us all an opportunity to make some good changes. Again- if not trump, then hildebeast in November
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                • Posted by Sp_cebux 3 years ago
                  No comment on Trump's past history of being who he is? .. you're so in love with the guy, he can literally do no wrong. Infatuation at its worst.
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                  • Posted by term2 3 years ago
                    Its either Trump or Hillary this time around. Period. Pick one cause there are no other choices in the political system we have right NOW. None of them are perfect, and the perfect John Galt would not want to be president in this system, nor would he ever be elected at this stage in our culture. That is hardly "in love with the guy". He will shake things up for sure, and hopefully we all can use the crack in the armor to insert libertarian ideas and inspire young people away from sanders.
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                    • Posted by Sp_cebux 3 years ago
                      We had an alternative. His name was Ted Cruz.

                      Ted Cruz would have shook it up even more-so, yet, without all the excess baggage carried around by Trump.
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                      • Posted by term2 3 years ago
                        But Cruz didnt have the popular support to even get nominated, let alone elected. I think it was the preacher aspect of his personality which worked against him. He got about half the support that Trump did among repubs. That meant to me he would never have won over hillary. This is a terrible time in our political system. We are right at the tipping point to go totally socialist (look at the support for Sanders), and I think this might be the last election here where we still have a chance for freedom to survive at all. It sure didnt with Obama. We lost a LOT in the last 8 years.
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    • Posted by conscious1978 3 years ago
      Your ability to put "makeup on a pig" knows no bounds. At least the Trump magnet makes it easier to see the other Pragmatists drawn to him.

      That's no "crack" in the "current statist system"...it is the current political philosophy giving birth to the logical extension of populist ideas. Trump is more dangerous than Sanders by force of his personality. I want no part of his "tide" of cronyism or whimsical wielding of the law.
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      • Posted by term2 3 years ago
        By "crack" I mean that the current statist system isnt working and people are starting to realize its not working as configured. We have Sanders out there saying that it needs more socialism (and money) to work- which I totally disagree with. We have Hillary out there saying that the current system is OK and shouldnt be changed. And theres Trump out there prying the crack open a bit more. Thats better than the other two.
        You are of course entitled to your analysis of the various people. We will be stuck with either Hillary or Trump as president. Its hard to believe you would rather Hillary. How bad do you really think a Trump could be??
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        • Posted by conscious1978 3 years ago
          He reminds me (in some measure) of "Sam "Ace" Rothstein".
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          • Posted by term2 3 years ago
            I think your imagination is getting the better of you. I hope he is elected, and then we will see what happens. CANT be worse than Hillary would be.
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            • Posted by conscious1978 3 years ago
              That's the same logic that got Obamacare passed.

              A disastrous Trump presidency will poison the "businessman" concept and push the country over the socialism cliff. Capitalism will be written off (shallowly and incorrectly) as a total failure because of the poster child for cronyism that markets himself as a business hero...so yeah, it will probably be worse.
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              • Posted by term2 3 years ago
                I would ask. What is it you fear trump would do that is so bad? He had already said he isn't a fan of executive orders, he will try to get obamacare repealed and reinstall free market principles. Hillary won't do any of that
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                • Posted by Sp_cebux 3 years ago
                  You have to pass it to see what's in it, though, right?
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                  • Posted by term2 3 years ago
                    Doesn't that apply to Hillary though? Trump CANT be worse than her and it will be one or the other in nivember
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                    • Posted by Sp_cebux 3 years ago
                      "Trump CANT be worse than {Hillary}" ... wow.
                      That's the best argument you can make FOR Trump to be president?!?!?

                      You've never looked at what Trump was doing right up to him beginning his nomination, have you?

                      Trump was Hillary's donor. Trump was propping Hillary up as "one of the best secretaries of state" we've ever had until he decided to start running. Ever pause to think WHY Trump might ever flip-flop so casually on his own statements?

                      I really wonder how many Trump-dolls do you have in your bed at night..
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                      • Posted by term2 3 years ago
                        I don't really care about your hatred of trump. You will be stuck with Hillary. That will be your punishment
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                        • Posted by term2 3 years ago
                          I don't wish Hillary on anyone
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                          • Posted by  $  CBJ 3 years ago
                            Well, maybe Bill . . .
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                            • Posted by term2 3 years ago
                              I'm kind of done with these family dynasties in politics like the Clinton and bush families
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                              • Posted by  $  3 years ago
                                I'm beyond done.
                                If Sir Jeb of the Royal House of Bush was now standing there instead of Trump, I would already know I would be voting Gary Johnson, even writing it in if Alabama did not provide a circle to mark.
                                I signed a petition to allow a Libertarian candidate to be voted for sheer minutes after after I voted for Cruz in the primary..
                                It may take until November before I decide to vote for Trump or not. There are things I like about him and things I don't.
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                                • Posted by term2 3 years ago
                                  I think there is a real movement out there to bust up the two party political establishment and control. It's a good thing and an opportunity For real change. It's spearheaded by trump and sanders in the USA and others in Europe. Sanders says socialism is the answer. Trump leans toward free markets. Johnson leans towards free markets more consistently. This is the time to use trumps ability to mobilize the anti establishment masses while we do some real education. Without trump the establishment will keep the door closed and it might be the last time in this country to keep the sanders crowd from making the country totally socialist. The young people today are willing socialists, and that is very scary. In spite of socialisms dismal internal failures, they think "it's just done wrong". We have maybe one more election before the socialists just take over. Trump is definitely cracking open the crony establishment system. He knows how to do that very well. He isnt a John galt and I am not suggesting he is. But he is opening a door for one to appear
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