Trump is more of an Objectivist then any Libertarian – BOOM
I can make this argument short and sweet… None of you on the board have any evidence to prove that Trump wants to destroy this country, dismantle the constitution, prohibit free enterprise the list goes on… I’ll agree that he isn’t a politician… +1 point for Trump. He is causing a media sensation because he gets free publicity. +2 points for Trump for being very smart. His message, Boarder Control is spot on and not a Libertarian position. It’s a rational decision of self-interest. +4 points for Trump.
I agree with the vast majority of the Libertarian Ideology but it’s not Objectivism. Ayn Rand spoke on this topic many times, for an example:
Above all, do not join the wrong ideological groups or movements, in order to “do something.” By “ideological” (in this context), I mean groups or movements proclaiming some vaguely generalized, undefined (and, usually, contradictory) political goals. (E.g., the Conservative Party, which subordinates reason to faith, and substitutes theocracy for capitalism; or the “libertarian” hippies, who subordinate reason to whims, and substitute anarchism for capitalism.) To join such groups means to reverse the philosophical hierarchy and to sell out fundamental principles for the sake of some superficial political action which is bound to fail. It means that you help the defeat of your ideas and the victory of your enemies. (For a discussion of the reasons, see “The Anatomy of Compromise” in my book Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal.)
Ayn Rand stated her thoughts on Libertarian loud and clear many times. Gary Johnson is not an Objectivist, +2 points from Trump.
Trump is self-serving, isn’t rational self-interest a major tenant in Objectivism? So far, he has done fairly well for himself. Another 10+ for Trump.
I agree with the vast majority of the Libertarian Ideology but it’s not Objectivism. Ayn Rand spoke on this topic many times, for an example:
Above all, do not join the wrong ideological groups or movements, in order to “do something.” By “ideological” (in this context), I mean groups or movements proclaiming some vaguely generalized, undefined (and, usually, contradictory) political goals. (E.g., the Conservative Party, which subordinates reason to faith, and substitutes theocracy for capitalism; or the “libertarian” hippies, who subordinate reason to whims, and substitute anarchism for capitalism.) To join such groups means to reverse the philosophical hierarchy and to sell out fundamental principles for the sake of some superficial political action which is bound to fail. It means that you help the defeat of your ideas and the victory of your enemies. (For a discussion of the reasons, see “The Anatomy of Compromise” in my book Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal.)
Ayn Rand stated her thoughts on Libertarian loud and clear many times. Gary Johnson is not an Objectivist, +2 points from Trump.
Trump is self-serving, isn’t rational self-interest a major tenant in Objectivism? So far, he has done fairly well for himself. Another 10+ for Trump.
Supports progressive taxation - not Objectivist, Not Constitutional
Revoke O-care and replace with Universal Health Care - not Objectivist, Not Constitutional
Lies and Fabricates things to slur his opponents - not Objectivist, very Alinsky
Supported Gun bans (until he needed to wave the flag for office) - not Objectivist
I'm sure I can find more than I can pull off the top opf my head.
Trump is a NY moderate (read liberal) opportunist. Liberals are not FOR this country and can't be seen (because of their ideology) as objectivist or republican or Conservative. Liberals can be seen as socialists, communists, and totalitarians.
Just wait and see which RINO he chooses for his VP. An, if elected, the Moderate to Left SCOTUS recommendations.
Enjoy your vote.
Good news: Trump’s new finance chair has given more than twice as much to Democrats, worked for George Soros
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/05/05...
Tell me again what Trump is?
I’m nervous as hell that Trump is a plant but our options are limited. If we rip him to shreds, our only hope, then that is exactly what the opposition wants. The point of the post is this exactly. We better grow up and hold our nose to vote for the lesser of two evils. I fully understand that he isn’t an Objectivist nor a Conservative, he is a Trumpest.
For us meaning non leftists neither Trump nor Hillary is the best choice no mattere what the plants and shills say.
Not according to Trump’s website. Excerpts:
“Completely repeal Obamacare.”
“Modify existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines.”
“Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.”
“Allow individuals to use Health Savings Accounts (HSAs).”
“Require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure.”
“Remove barriers to entry into free markets for drug providers that offer safe, reliable and cheaper products.”
“The reforms outlined above will lower healthcare costs for all Americans. They are simply a place to start.”
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/position...
http://truthinmedia.com/trump-obamaca...
Healthcare - Agreed that wouldn’t be acceptable, can you provide a link to this statement as I have not heard it. Still, at this point, will not change my vote because the Hilary wants this and more.
Lies – agreed… Not very presidential is he? But what choice do you have? By the way, no Objectivist has every ran for office? I personal don’t lie, I have but not for personal benefit. Most people lie, especially people running for office.
Sure, I’ve heard those but again, what are you options? The candidate that says that they want you to keep your guns or the candidate that says that she intact more gun control? Remember that Ronald Reagan was also a Democrat before he was a Conservative.
Wake up… This idea that we vote for the person we want is rubbish, we are simply little Dutch boy with our finger in the dike. I give Trump the slime possibility of becoming good president while giving Hillary the no chance at all. Cast your vote…
Healthcare: http://truthinmedia.com/trump-obamaca...
I'm awake. I'm fedup. And I'd rather his country finally go down the toilet then be forced into voting for a democrat or a democrat wolf in sheep clothing.
I hope I'm reading him wrong but Trump is a D plant into an election they should have lost.
Shame on the one party system that we have devolved to.
The lying party consisting of dems and rino's.
Nearly 50% of the democratic side thinks socialism is good shit, I’m flabbergasted by the results that Bernie has received. We lost the battle for the narrative because they own the news media (mostly) and schools. This is a concerted effort on their part.
Don’t be a tool, hold your f’ing nose and vote. We can crawl out of Trump…
Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton will destroy anything left of this country.