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Time for Gary Johnson to seize the moment

Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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With Cruz dropping out tonight, there are no main party candidates left who behave in accordance with the Constitution. If there is ever a time for someone else to rise up, now is the time. I doubt it will be seized, however.

The GOP RINOs would not allow my county's elected GOP chairman, a Tea Partier, participate at the Florida GOP convention a few years ago. The Florida GOP RINOs also were largely responsible for John McCain getting nominated in 2008. The GOP establishment is now getting its just desserts.

GOP - Rest in Pieces

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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Obama and Sanders support is my evidence that it is past the point of salvage. With it being over 50% now, as you say, that is further evidence.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I hope that isnt right. I suspect Romney was right then, and its over 50% now. Look at the support for Sanders, an admitted pure socialist. Its very scary
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    the founding fathers were revolting against the king of england. They wanted to be done with kissing the butt of the king. Today, its the establishment that is antagonizing people. Both Trump and Sanders picked up on this and got a lot of support. Its way too early to tell if its a real revolution from within, or just some papered over alternative establishment. I do think Trump will shake things up. Remains to be seen if he can actually get rid of some of the cronyism and wasted tax dollars and regultions. I think its worth a shot. Hillary IS the establishment in all its evil forms, and continuing that is not good.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Did not pertain to Fosterj717.

    Most of the social media is a home for air heads and those seeking safe spots. Those whose time is so value less they spend most of it doing nothing.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The popular vote and the primary process means what? Nothing. Each party has the unquestioned legal right to select their own candidate under their own rules. Popular vote and State Laws mean nothing more than any poll. That's all they mean.

    Should rules challenge as they are planning his delegates he will have less than Cruz the quitter. which may have been the plan all along., A delegate challenge is rule don only by the rules committee. Plurality wins are not allowed.

    Someone should have read the fine print. Trump is not presumptive but presumptuous and on thin ice.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If they get off their dead butts and do something to show they are worthy besides "Send money" Of all the reasons to present as a demonstration of value that is the most 700 club worst one imaginable.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    More important than just sending money is being willing to put some time in going door in your neighborhood, "convincing" people how "YOU" feel and why they should consider your views on a particular candidate! That has more meaning than just paying for an ad. Nothing beats door to door canvassing and speaking from your heart and not just saying hi.

    Politics have gotten away from that type of personal commitment and that is why we have the garbage that we have. Million dollar soundbites only means that people are making decisions base upon silliness dreamed up by Madison Avenue and spouted in 30 second increments, most of which have very little substance meaning "where's the beef?!"..
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And in doing so is proving our case he's a left wing socialist .. so why would I vote for something like that? What makes you think it isn't the 30's. The parallels are ominous.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't mind doing that. All i ask is to be represented in some form other than a dollar bill.

    What are you going to do for the rest of us in the 46% who have turned their back on the system and are not represented. Only answer is exhibiting some leadership and form a coalition.

    Just one little task as a sort of act of faith that the rest of non-libertarians count. For example I am a Constitutionalist who believes it is the center. No party just a strong belief as a retired soldier who took the oath to defend that document.

    Where's the beef? You go to to show something besides where's the money...
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Therein lies the problem!! It is time to get back to face to face communications otherwise this garbage is only going to get worse. It is up to the individual how they are to communicate however, I can tell you that social media is not the panacea that many believe it is......nothing beats face to face, personal communications! For what its worth!
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's an excuse not a reason. Here's another one from the movies. Winners never quit and Quitters never win.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nothing much the head due stated it publicly but you were asleep. They are planning on challenging winner take all votes and some others. They do have the sole legal right to make those decisions. the state laws do NOT matter neither does the popular vote.

    Where you been playing Ostrich.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A business man who has a number of failed businesses, all ending in bankruptcy! Furthermore, what makes you think that he is not of the "Establishment" mold? He has paid money to both Rs as well as Ds and is friends with Hillary & Bill as well as Boehner. His populism shows very little Conservative leanings and his rhetoric about walls and what not do not stand the sniff test as to how he proposes to accomplish anything.

    For these reasons, I think one can surmise that he is a lot of smoke and mirrors and very short on substance. I for one would not hang my hat on any of his stump speech rhetoric but rather I would spend more time looking at his history (can hide from that and can't really embellish it either".......For what its worth!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That may be a part of it, but this is not a 1930s movie. The reality is that it takes millions just to get attention. We are in an era in which personal communication is done less face-to-face than by personal media. Talking to persons on Face Book, and Twitter will be even more popular by '20, not to mention Instagram, etc. TV spots should start as the coverage building up to the election warms up so that the Libertarian becomes a part of the debates.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are an optimist and I think that is a bit of wishful thinking on your part. I think that the damage that the Republican party has done to its brand is far worse than many think. It is dying and in its death throes. The Trump candidacy is not the cause but rather it is definitely the manifestation of the terminal nature of the party. Perhaps the same to a lesser extent for the Democrat party as well.

    My guess is that all bets are off on this one!
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately, I don't believe that is going to be the case for one simple reason. In the past, folks have held their noses and voted for the lesser of two evils (I.e., McCain and Romney) after the Establishment destroyed the principled True Conservatives. It is now at the point where a whole bunch of us have had it with voting for the "lesser of two evils"! Evil is evil no matter which way you slice and dice it! I will bet that there will be a very large segment who do not follow the old model and will either vote their consciences or not vote at all.......For what its worth!
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Red is the color of left wing international socialism. La Bandera Rosa the Red Flag is there marching song. Brigada Rosa, By rights it should have been the color of the Democrats. Red Ties make excellent targets though.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, we as a country are getting exactly what we deserve! Cicero said "A nation deserves its leaders because they are only a reflection of the people who elected them.....(paraphrased)"....
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If the Kochs put up the money and a really good ad agency is used, I can see the possibility of getting enough attention to make a mark in the election of '20. Particularly of Trump screws up.
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