Here we go again - trying to legislate behavior instead of changing the acceptability of that behavior.

Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 11 months ago to Culture
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Just one more thing for the police to ignore, leading to a disdain for all laws.


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    Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So would I, but that wasn't an option. If I'm going to be screwed with, I'd prefer it up front and honest.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We went from a society where it was considered intolerable to perform acts of sodomy to one where it's a protected class; we went from a society where inter-racial relationships were considered as immoral as homosexual relationships to one where you are persecuted for even suggesting they might be immoral... in half a century. To suggest that that is "persuasion" and not "brainwashing" is irrational. But the biggest example of brainwashing is the war on tobacco, which is now being expanded to fast foods (but not mind-altering substances! Oh no! Must keep the citizens pacified with their Borloi...)

    If you want me to agree with you... use REASON. Do not insert tokens into movies, television, books, video games... do not portray protagonists as thinking and acting in ways you wish to promote, do not portray antagonists as thinking and acting in ways you wish to demonize.

    Yes, I believe it far better for a society, through its legislature, to honestly declare, "this behavior/item is now illegal", such as with the 18th Amendment, than a society that keeps it legal, but demonizes the product and its users *because it's profiting from the product's use*, such as with tobacco. The 18th Amendment can be repealed, but you can't repeal brain-washing.

    It's always assumed by moderns that the current state of modern society is a result of our "enlightenment" about the "evils" of our past; feeds the proles egos just fine, just kind of hard for me to reconcile with objective reality.

    I watch a guy walking down an aisle with his pants below his ass, and some giggly girl next to him thinking he's all that, and I find it hard to swallow that these creatures are somehow wiser or superior to the society that discouraged a man from leaving the house without a hat. And where did this... cough... fashion statement come from? Pop culture. Nobody got up in the morning and said, "you know, my pants hanging below my ass making me walk like a penguin is a good look for me, and the chicks will dig it." It came from scum in jail not being allowed to have a *belt* and wearing clothes that didn't fit. Somehow, those emulating this fashion got it brainwashed into them that that's the way to look powerful and attractive. I wonder where it came from.

    That's not the brainwashing. See, if I had a piece of clothing that didn't fit, like a hand-me-down from my elder brothers... my mother *mended* it. But, thanks to the brainwashing you pretend never happened, momma pursuing her career in the food service industry is more important than momma maintaining her children's appearance. Then, brainwashing upon brainwashing, the cart is placed before the horse and the brainwashers try to pretend that momma *had* to go to work, not that the feminazi's propaganda campaign, and the media's support with fiction glamorizing their agenda, led to the idea that women *deserved* a career outside the home, even after having dropped get, followed by the propaganda campaign that housework wasn't "women's work", followed by the campaign that anything culturally feminine was de facto sexist... and on and on, relentlessly. And this is just one facet of one aspect of the tremendously MASSIVE brainwashing campaign, relentlessly hammering the populace from every venue and walk of life. Big Brother has left no stone unturned.

    On the one hand, stealing from children the ability to reason, and on the other, spoon feeding them, through emotional triggers and associations, what the progressives wanted them to think, feel and believe. 1984 indeed.


    There's almost nothing I can watch, read or listen to anymore without a feeling of disgust deep in the pit of my stomach at the countless "truisms" and modern moral assumptions being shoved down everyone's throat. If there's an old movie or book I liked, and I hear there's going to be a film version or remake, I won't go see it, anymore. Not after what they did to Starship Troopers. (in point of fact, the straw that broke the camel's back came long before that movie, when they altered the ending of "Enemy Mine" to be a humanity-bashing PC screed. And Enemy Mine was one of THE best stories about cultural conflicts I've ever read).

    Even the movie critics on Youtube recognize that the movie "Avatar" is just a remake of yet another "White men suck" appeal to emotion story. Massive box-office success, with no one questioning the basic assumptions (like, why a pacific, harmony with nature culture would develop a warrior class...)

    People will flock to museums to look at "Guernica", but never read "Homage to Catalonia". Emotional appeal winning out over reason.

    Of course, old movies and books can't cut it in the modern mainstream brainwashed culture; one of the things brainwashed into them is the bigoted intolerance for anything not PC. And I promise you, my definition of PC is far more extensive than yours.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We said things like "That's cock!" instead of "That's swell!" can you get arrested for that?
    my kids grew up hearing "that's so gay!" I'm pretty sure you can get expelled for that
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  • Posted by 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, to be precise here, schmuck means jewels, but yes, it has been extended to mean the "family jewels."
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  • Posted by 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Depends on the time of day. What's permissible after 9pm eastern (8 central and mountain - never understood why the kiddies in the Midwest were able to handle that language, but those on the coasts couldn't - guess we're just more mature, probably comes from watching all those farm animals procreate ;-)
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You know, that's a hot-button topic, guaranteed to draw out heated conversations...
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  • Posted by Solver 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hopefully this fine won't be extend to written.words deemed obscene any time soon.
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  • Posted by helidrvr 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh, after decades of trying to move the mountain I am only too aware, but every painful step in the right direction is still a step. Ultimately I care less about how many people are awakened by my effort than I do about living up to my own expectations of myself. It's also about exponential growth.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are wrong - vulgar and indecent speech is protected all the time. In fact, that's one of the reasons for the 1st Amendment - to protect speech that the majority find offensive. Heck, just recently the SCOTUS let stand a lower court ruling that a PA school district didn't have the authority to ban "I heart boobies" bracelets, which the school district tried to argue was vulgar.

    Yelling "Fire" in a crowded movie theater is different in that it causes panic and resultant injury. You can yell "Fire" all you want in the middle of a grassy park. It all depends on context.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You forgot "Moochers", "Socialists", and "Obamists"... Oh wait, those are the @$$#()!#$ who are drafting and legislating this nonsense into existence. :-)
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  • Posted by rayvaughn 10 years, 11 months ago
    Who said this:
    Is there any casualty other than your feelings? Are you or others being threatened with violence or vandalism? No? Then it's a shame your feelings are hurt but that's too bad. You'll live.
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  • Posted by TheOldMan 10 years, 11 months ago
    In my case, the nannies would have to outlaw the words "Democrats!", "Liberal!", "Welfare lovers!", as these are few of my choice swear words.
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  • Posted by wiggys 10 years, 11 months ago
    the "outlawed" language heard on the streets of Brighton is perfectly legal on television programs.
    I always wonder who started to use the word "schmuck" on television because it is a Yiddish word that literally translates to a mans private parts. Maybe it was Mel Brooks. You have to watch out for those who administer the laws not the law makers. And it is the police officer who does not use any common sense. What if the police officer uses those same words who tickets him? Stupidity abounds in the usa today.
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Legality needs to align with reality and morality, true...but have you ever worked for the government? Once they set a precedent, reality changes form.
    For instance, to say "this is what I think, this is what I feel" can be made illegal and fined IF it is something that a law has been passed to prohibit.
    Again, this is a VERY slippery slope and I fear for our future if this trend continues.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You reject your own ability to choose for yourself whom to listen to! You reject your own rational thought!

    Communication is 90% persuasion. People are always trying to get you to agree with them. If you want to call that brainwashing, you are the very zombie product of society you fear becoming! Even in an honest society, you are going to have people who want you to agree with them. The education process is full of it - teachers who have knowledge they want to pass along. Do they not want you to agree with them? Of course!

    Wow. Please tell me that this post is a complete joke and that you really don't believe your own statements.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You have your legality wrong. No right goes unfettered. The right to free speech does not cover vulgar or indecent speech, nor does it cover speech that harms or inflames (like the proverbial yelling of "fire" in a movie theatre). Such speech is not protected, as SCOTUS has held in numerous opinions.

    Is it ridiculous? Perhaps. Legal? Absolutely.
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It seems to me that someone was fined for speech. I don't know how your bank balance looks but $200 is not a small sum for me. If police are empowered to punish for speech deemed offensive, people will eventually go silent. Another example of police brutality in my opinion and it needs to be stopped.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But don't you understand? Those politicians DID SOMETHING. Never mind that it will totally be ignored and have no effect whatsoever.
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