My Business Degree Qualifies Me as a Social Worker!

Posted by davidmcnab 4 years, 7 months ago to Business
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Last year, I finished a Bachelor of Business Studies degree, majoring in Entrepreneurship and Small Business - something which has given me skills and perspectives to work my way "off the tools" as a software developer.

Anyway, a couple of days ago, it occurred to me that this new degree is actually a prime qualification for me to succeed as a highly effective social worker. I am equipped to go into the field, assess people in poverty, audit their skills, interests and capabilities, teach them business and economics, provide them a framework for developing and managing their own business, and project-manage them into bootstrapping themselves into prosperity.

But - do you think any agency would actually hire me in this role? No way, they only hire the soppy wet nurses, enabling and encouraging victim consciousness and keeping people stuck in a rut of humiliating dependency.


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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 4 years, 7 months ago
    "do you think any agency would actually hire me in this role? "
    I think they would hire you, but then they would have fixed processes in place that prevent you from executing. You'd come up with an idea to donate an insignificant part of their budget to buy kits for a local hackerspace that you would use to teach people to create UIs on Beaglebone on Raspberry Pi or how to remove and replace parts on a PCB, and the agency would say it the idea has to works its way up through the management silo and will require more hours of writing grants and reports than it would take to do the class. They would give you $10 gas cards or transit cards, though, to hand out monthly to poor people who say they're looking for a job. You'd quit in disgust.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 4 years, 7 months ago
    You'd have to do it on your own...until they determine that it's a hate crime, racist or sexest anyway.

    I can give no odds on how long you'd have to accomplish your intentions.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 4 years, 7 months ago
    As has been apparent for some time now, American universities have for the most part stopped teaching anything useful. If they still did, the very first thing that a business major would have learned is that business is built on bringing a product or a service (the supply) to the consumer (the demand). Then one would also learn, from observation as a minimum, that people in poverty are a) not really in poverty, except for the mental poverty and b) are not interested in changing that condition (words aside; based on their actions) and, finally, the trillion dollar industry that is built around so-called poverty is not interested in going out of business. In other words, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Of course, after four or five years of expensive "education," one needs to learn on their own.
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    • Posted by 4 years, 7 months ago
      My business degree, which was not through a US institution, did place strong practical emphasis on agile business model development, market validation, and the practicalities of setting up a small business or business startup. It especially focused on teaching people to get real, and not assume that because they thought a product/service is great, that it would automatically succeed in the market.

      I do support the concept of some kind of social safety net, because for society it can make good economic sense compared to the alternative which would involve a lot more expense through crime , but I believe the system needs to incentivise effort and initiative, and punish laziness and apathy.
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      • Posted by strugatsky 4 years, 7 months ago
        One more point - poverty, or economic hardships have absolutely no connection to crime. Society's laws, expectations and culture are the drivers of crime. A sense of entitlement or perception of injustice result in crime. One's financial well being is not the driver. This is a common fallacy, promulgated by certain members of the ruling classes, even extending to a totally disconnected from reality claim that terrorism is a result of poverty. In fact, almost all terrorists, Islamic and of other ideologies, have been middle class or upper middle class (at least since the beginning of the 20th Century through today). Likewise, most criminals do not live in poverty and if we include white collar crime, which is very much the result of culture and the legal system, the average criminal is quite well off.
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      • Posted by strugatsky 4 years, 7 months ago
        Addressing your last point first - social safety net. If you drill down to the fundamentals of the concept of a social safety net, you will find that it is the opposite of incentive and initiative, as it ultimately rewards laziness and apathy.

        As to the business education, of course I do not know the specifics of your school, but very often the words are good, but in practice the schools redirect efforts into wrong, or dead, ends. For example, teaching people in poverty how to run a business (in America; I can't and don't speak for conditions in other countries, which very well are likely to be different). The greatest handicap that these people have is their poverty mentality. Getting them to reliably show up to work would be an accomplishment. Taking responsibility for their actions, instead of blaming the world, may very well be an impossible task. Altering their mentality to be self-motivated and to take risks - don't waste your time. It is just too bad that too many schools do not present reality, but leave graduates with an unrealistic, rosy picture of the world. And the result - people with degrees end up as waiters and live in their parents' basements. My advice - don't try to help the world; help yourself, and the world will benefit.
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  • Posted by wiggys 4 years, 7 months ago
    If you personally have no experience in the field of study for which you received your degree how can you teach someone else the methods needed to potentially succeed? You are amply qualified to get hired by a government agency to do just that. After all we do have a community organizer as president, based upon his qualifications or lack there of. Maybe you can follow suit.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 4 years, 7 months ago
    IMHO, your business degree over-qualified you to
    do what "social workers" do, these days. . you are
    qualified to teach people -- maybe kids, if the teachers'
    union would get out of the way -- to succeed in a new
    life of entrepreneurship. . Go For It and grab all of
    the bucks you can get! -- john
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 7 months ago
    No agency would hire you basically because the people who go to social workers would rather do nothing than actually go to work.

    I think people know what their skills are already, and just need to find a job where they can do what the boss needs- so he pays them.

    Not rocket science.
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  • Posted by $ skidance 4 years, 7 months ago
    I was a social worker for 24 endless years, and found that few of my clients had any real drive, ability, or motivation. Nevertheless, I did my best to nurture those few bright lights that I encountered.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 4 years, 7 months ago
    Get ahold of information on small business loans from the Small Business Administration. Assisting people in getting that sort assistance is quite intricate but you sound like just the individual. They don't hire you per se you work as a consultant assisting applicants between them and the loaning bank etc.

    The rules are very catch 22 and so are the preferences if you speak a foreign language it helps as those just arriving get priority.

    Anyway that might be a niche for you

    and you don't have to deal with all the sob sister crap. (do brothers ever sob)
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  • Posted by Lucky 4 years, 7 months ago
    "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
    So, the industry obviously prefers the first as it creates more government jobs and enhances their importance.

    What you are suggesting is altruism in the better sense of the word. Try starting as a part-time personal venture, aim for private clients or perhaps their parents. Later you can try the usual agencies as a contractor.
    Hey, what you want to do for others, do for yourself first!
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