Obamrica
Posted by jyokela 9 years, 11 months ago to Government
All this separatist talk about Ukraine has got me thinking that I would like America to separate from Obamrica!
America, just say "NO!" to Obamrica!
America, just say "NO!" to Obamrica!
Watch Ukraine. If we don't reform our immigration policies Ukraine is our future.
What keeps us from doing it? First, we are told that pursuing our own interests can not possibly coincide with others' - that everything is a zero-sum game in which some win and some lose. This is the first great fallacy we must overcome.
The second is that there is nothing we individually can do to affect anything, so any effort is futile. I call this the Borg mindset (my apologies to Gene Roddenberry). It is precisely BECAUSE everyone individually makes up their mind to do something that things change.
Third, that part of getting things to change is by advocating the need. That means getting the word out and giving everyone the chance to decide for themselves whether or not to support the cause.
All three of these are vehemently opposed by our current Administration, whether by IRS targeting, misinformation, or social welfare programs.
They wouldn't have to put up with gringos anymore.
Maybe an anti-Gadsden Purchase too.
Texas is a special case, since the people of Texas fought for and achieved independence from Mexico. While foreigners joined the fight, about half of those who fought against Santa Anna and declared themselves an independent republic were native Tejanos, so it's tougher for Mexicans to make the case we "stole" Texas. However, in the case of the lands that traded hands in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, because the difference between conditions north and south of the border results from differences in government, a few years after we cede those lands back to Mexico they'll become violent, poverty stricken shells of themselves, and the Mexicans living in them will complain we somehow "ruined" the territories before returning them, and they'll once again migrate north across the new porous border to participate illegally in the smaller, but still more vibrant US economy. Mexicans are no different than anyone else in the world; they blame their failings on whomever and whatever is convenient. Most of them don't see that the lands of Guadalupe Hidalgo and Gadsden were once exactly like Mexico, and if returned, would once again become exactly like Mexico.
I understand that Kenya is lovely, this time of year.
Shrugging in the Ayn Rand sense is not the way we will regain the freedoms of the past. Ms. Rand used a ploy to make a point. It was a marvelous way to do it, the woman could really write, but it cannot work even if it's limited to America. Let's not shrug, let's think.
Rand sought a method which she could share in a book. I see the AS story as a time-compressed re-claiming of the country. how might it REALLY happen?
Rick Perry has me thinking east texas, sometimes.
my wife and I went to Belize ... interesting.
but we may not need to relocate. the tea party people have shown that, in miniature.
think ... think ... has AS been translated into spanish? could we do a Gideon thing and put copies in gas station rest rooms?
this electronic gulch inspires thought -- and we MUST not let the internet be controlled into oblivion.
think ... think ... -- j
p.s. the potential separation -- between the predominant-givers and the predominant-takers -- is partially revealed in the "blue" and "red" county maps which I'm sure that we all have seen, as from the 2012 election. the predominant-givers are gradually leaving, say, cities like detroit. does this offer a clue?
You are thinking productively, thank you. By the way, I haven't seen a great book mentioned in the Gulch that has the A.R. answer to every argument anyone can give you. I do recommend, however, not to bother with died-in-the-wool libs, but fence sitters and seekers should be the goal. The book is the Ayn Rand Lexicon edited by Harry Binswanger. What a great resource! I don't know if it's still in print, but if it isn't, a good idea might be to try to get it reprinted. It was published in 1986 by NAL Penguin, Inc. 1633 Broadway NYC 10019.
As to the Tea Party, those folks are worth working with Some are misguided, but when I communicate with some of them, they seem inclined to listen, learn and read.
I particularly like Jenny Beth Martin of TPPatriots, and hope that they keep traction into the future.
Let's Keep The Faith, regardless of our faith, or not! (keep the confidence?) -- j
db&khalling, are you listening, too?!
p.s. -- just did a search & need to do more; there's a lawsuit about the film at::
http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/at...
more as I find it. smells like the movie folks know about book rights, or the reporters are being imprecise, as usual. -- j
What do you mean "shrugged friends?"
just as I have lots of tolerance for homosexuality.
But, tolerance isn't acceptance...
On another tangent, if several AS investors banned together to purchase a 1000 acre spread. We fenced it. Gated it. Had guard houses at the entrances. Drilled wells, built generation facilities and a road system. We declared it a tax free zone. We are. finally in a place where the mooches and takers could not pollute the lifestyle, what a vision. Then the President of the HOA gets a letter from the EPA informing him our sewage is not compliant, our wells have been condemned, the roads we built interrupted the breeding cycle of the coyotes and also created excess run off of rain. Since we were not solar and wind powered our generation plant would have to pay a carbon tax, to be collected from each individual in the community. If we had a place, the agencies and regulators would soon turn the gulch into their vision of Utopian paradise; all of the collective surrendering their property for the sake of those in need. After all, it's only fair.
Even if the feds would permit secession (and as you state, that is very doubtful) it would likely only be agreed to with a stipulation of a repayment of the population's share of the national debt, currently at over $52k per person. That's over $1.3 Trillion just for Texas.
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The State of Florida serves as a major provider of winter vegetables for the rest of the country. Florida could also partner up with the other Gulf States; Texas, Louisiana and Alabama, as a consortium of energy producing centers. Florida is also a major dairy and beef cattle producing state as well as a leader in the aquaculture of Tilapia, a delicious and versatile food fish. Florida is also the home of several state and private universities engaged in all manner of scientific and medical research.
If It really hit the fan, Southeast Florida would be my first choice as a place to settle for the climate as well as the other pluses I mentioned.
For several months, I commuted three hours down each way twice per week to just south of Fort Lauderdale as part of a biosensors company. With that long a commute, I hated all the traffic jams. I disliked the very high level of government interference at multiple levels below the state level with the business that I was a partner in.
Florida has also subsidized a lot of solar energy research in direct competition to a second company I helped start up to convert solid waste of several types into energy, fuels, or chemicals. When Obama took office and put solar energy into favor, we sold our company and shrugged. Solar energy will never be economical. It will always have too high a capital cost.
I mention nothing racial nor ethnic by my statement. My second best friend is Jewish,
and now he makes the same three hour commute I dreaded. I employ people from all over the world in my research group, including one Jewish student, one Hispanic student (the next John Galt), a Jamaican, one from India, one from Libya, one from Brazil, and three other Americans, including one Chinese-American.
Southeast Florida is a little too hot for me, and way too crowded. In the last several statewide elections, southeast Florida has more than cancelled out my community's votes from east central Florida.
East Central Florida is perfect.
Miles (oops, Km) upon miles of pristine and nearly empty beaches and nothing like the traffic or hurricane possibilities in FL.
And then there is that little natural wonder the Great Barrier Reef.
Gun control sucks though.
The proposed sales price was $370K ($358K after the incentive). The thick condo prospectus listed hundreds of rules. The condo association fee was going to be $405/month! The real estate taxes were estimated at $575/month! When you add in fire insurance, those 3 items were almost equal to my monthly rent. That doesn't even count the principal and interest on the proposed mortgage loan. If I remember correctly, the total monthly mortgage was around $3500/month. There was no way I was going to say yes to that deal...
Today I'd do well to get $200 for the place because the federal dept of corrections built a prison 1 mile down the highway from my place. Of course the acreage could be sold for enough to make up for the loss, but I was going to hold onto that as a gift for the kids. Right now it's my private range - but the zoning board is trying to stop that. If they do manage to ban my shooting down there, I will sell it and move.
Here's a couple of theories:
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