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The Romantic Manifesto and Music Preferences

Posted by $ SarahMontalbano 8 years ago to Philosophy
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I was given The Romantic Manifesto for my birthday, and I was reading the essay "Art and Cognition." As a musician, the section on the nature of music was especially fascinating to me.

"Music is experienced as if it had the power to reach man's emotions directly (41)."

"Music communicates emotions, which one grasps, but does not actually feel; what one feels is a suggestion, a kind of distant, disassociated, depersonalized emotion- until and unless it unites with one's own sense of life (42)."

One of the ideas I was intrigued by most was her statement here:
"Until a conceptual vocabulary is discovered and defined, no objectively valid criterion of esthetic judgement is possible in the field of music (46, italics original)."

This leads me to a question and informal survey for all of you: what is your favorite piece of music (or musician), and what emotions do they inspire in you? How does this unite with your sense of life?

My favorite piece of classical music that I play routinely as a violinist is Bach's E-Major Concerto. It is triumphant, disciplined, and although it goes through some minor sections, it always returns to its wonderful, glorious theme. It makes me feel so alive.

I am expecting a wide range of answers here, since there is no "objective" criterion. (Feel free to discuss this, too - is there, isn't there, how would we define objective criterion, etc.)


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  • Posted by EAJewett 8 years ago
    Aaron Copland's music, the Red Pony score in particular, evokes a limitless potential, with obstacles to make me value what I've accomplished.
    I will also agree with the Yes proponents here; there is an imaginative complexity, layering multiple song-worthy lines, wheels within wheels.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years ago
    shall I explain why the leap from Clasical and Baroque Classical, skipping Romantic Classical to the more Modern Classical of Finlandia?

    Our national anthemn as music just sits there and says ho hum.

    Sibelius's Finlandia makes you you want to jump up salute and brings tears to your eyes. That's what music is all about. Star Spangled Banner may have history but it doesn't gladden the heart and the soul. Finlandia does all of that and serves as a fitting funeral finale

    Ode to the Common Man sucks just from the title and is fitting for the new USSA insultingly socialist to the core. i can't imagine as a soldier dying for such cRap.
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  • Posted by philosophercat 8 years ago
    Hi Sarah
    Bach's Goldberg Variations
    Mahler Symphony #1 It was my theme music when I DJ'd classical at U Michigan
    Rodrigo "Concierto Heroico" almost everything
    Beethoven SOnatas, Sym's # 3,5,9 Chistof von Dohnanyi conducting the Cleveland
    BUt I change, Love Rachmannoff Preludes
    Casals, Horowitz, Andras Schiff
    Texas Swing, Jazz, Bluegrass
    Music is the love and feeling of motion and emotion in the body expressed in dance and voice.
    Philosophers love music!
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  • Posted by mccannon01 8 years ago
    Don't know where to start because I love listening to music and like something about almost type except rap. I have a varied collection and play whatever I feel like at the time. Most of my CD albums have been put into my iTunes library so I can roll a selection of them on/off my iPhone, which happens frequently. Right now the albums on the phone looks like this:
    JS Bach
    Mozart
    Wagner
    Beethoven
    Rolling Stones 40 licks
    Bob Seger Hits
    ZZ Top Hits
    Traveling Wilburys
    Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
    Simple Minds: Glittering Prize
    Creedence Clearwater Revival (Chron 1)
    The Cars: Hits
    Roy Orbison: In Dreams: Hits
    Movie: Dirty Dancing
    Movie: Stand By Me
    Movie: The Commitments
    AC/DC Back In Black
    Fleetwood Mac: Rumours
    The Who: Best of
    Swing Collection (various artists, Benny Goodman et al)
    Blondie: Best
    Talking Heads: Stop Making Sense
    2nd South Carolina String Band (Civil War era music)
    78th Frazer Highlander Pipe Band (Being Scots Irish I love the pipes!)
    George Thorogood and the Destroyers: Baddest of
    Jimi Hendrix: The Essential vol 1
    Greatest Hits of the 60s Vol 2 (various artists)
    The Animals: Best of
    Iron Butterfly: In-A-Gadda-Da-Vita
    Three Dog Night: Best of
    U2: Joshua Tree
    Neil Diamond: Greatest
    War: Best of
    Elvis Presley: 30 #1 Hits
    Ricky Nelson: Greatest Hits

    Two months from now the list may be considerably different.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years ago
    Wow! I have a lot of listening to do tonight while finishing homework! Thank you everyone for your suggestions and keep adding them if you think of more!
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    • Posted by Flootus5 8 years ago
      The list could be huge, but I would add the album Trick of the Tail by Genesis. Some very haunting stuff. Part of the classic rock era of the seventies.

      That was such a cool time to be in college. And then Disco came along and ruined it.

      Also, listen to some of the 70's Renaissance albums with Annie Haslam's singing. The most beautiful voice I've ever heard.
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  • Posted by gsaunder 8 years ago
    Just about anything with Sinatra from his Capitol years with Nelson Riddle or Billy May. The perfect intersection of great songs, thoughtful lyrics, amazing musicianship, maturing recording technology and Frank in peak form.
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  • Posted by lone_objectivist 8 years ago
    Where to start? Absolutely everything written by Chopin, and nearly everything by Tchaikovsky. For Bach, I’m partial to all the Brandenburg concerti but especially no. 5, with it’s long and climactic solo for the keyboard. Also the organ prelude and fugue in E minor (“St. Anne”) whose fugue has shattering emotional power, but one must appreciate fugal form (I think) to “get it”.

    Additional favorites are Respighi’s “Pines of Rome”, but especially the last segment “Pines of the Appian Way”. (I have a tendency to like bombast.) More favorites are Ravel’s “La Valse”, the wonderful double fugue from “Schwanda the Bagpiper”, Dukas’ “Sorcerer’s Apprentice”, and the opening to R. Strauss’s “Also Sprach Zarathustra”. This last I consider, from a musical analytical standpoint, one of the treasures of Western music, truly embodying “multum in parvo”, being the simplest of themes with the maximum of effect. It’s a travesty that it is used so much in the popular culture for the most banal reasons.

    Not to be forgotten is Rachmaninoff’s FIRST symphony, part of the last movement of which always conjures up the scene from AS where Dagny is racing to the oil fields, only to find them in flames, and her first view of what became known as “Wyatt’s Torch”.

    One must also consider the performance of the music: The first time I heard an old recording of Luisa Tetrazzini singing “Caro nome” it brought me to tears. The aria itself is again the simplest of themes: a descending major scale. This wasn’t even original to Verdi, the old carol “Joy to the World” does the same thing. But her accuracy, beauty, and artistry elevated it far beyond anything commonplace.

    I’ll close now, or I’ll go on for another ten pages. Thanks for introducing one of my favorite topics!
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