Thanks for the clarification. I thought for a moment something was amiss. LOL

...and quickens.
Seriously...how unAmerican is it to rub butts with the Chinese? This country has lost it's marbles...(AND it's balls) and it is up to "we the people" to push them back to where they belong. (not the balls...the cronies.)

Helo LS,
Indeed the plot thickens and sickens...
http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/harry-reids-l...
Regards,
O.A.

Thank you for clarifying my statement that glaringly lacked of proper info. They are all in corrupt crony cahoots and WE'RE paying them. Shame on US.

he was the lead lawyer for the proposed deal between the Chinese manufacturer (that his dad was an investor in) and Nevada utilities company. As well, he is a former County Commissioner for that area and worked in that capacity to get the land value reduced.

And Reid's son is head of some other crony crap and land development or something. Arg!

The oligarchy is rising. It is difficult to keep from choking... :(

It sounds like a range war is brewing. There is one in California's Central Valley, and the issue here is water.

Thank you! I was thinking about doing that, and you convinced me!

how incestuous can you get. Thanks for making me gag. :)

The Head of the BLM is Neil Kornze... a longtime senior adviser to none other than Harry Reid...
http://benswann.com/harry-reid-labels-bu...

Hey kittyhawk consider posting the first link. I think it will be seen by more people and start a conversation of its own.

Senator Inhofe was playing semantics with the BLM is public owned comment. The fact is the Government is not respecting the people and is playing cronie capitalism games with our lives. Its time to send EVERY incumbent home for good. Career over.

If there is a round two I will going down to help out. As a reporter and will bring my "field kit."

You do not understand the whole picture. He has been fighting this for 20 years in the courts and the courts are stacked against him..all other ranchers have been run out..he's the last man standing. Read and watch the videos of him explaining the whole story. Are you for or against freedom? What happened with the BLM is NOT freedom...it's brute thuggery. And "these militia guys" did NOT put their women and children on the front lines. Good grief, where are you getting your info? Harry Reid? Watch the footage. I'm also against eminent domain. (Starting to understand why we have the 2nd amendment yet? Our founders KNEW these things would happen if the majority got complacent about upholding freedom....and here we are.)

I don't think you understand the whole history of the BUndy controversy. It has been mis-reported in multiple places in the press.
1. Bundy's held property rights en perpetuity for both water and grazing on those lands.
2. In violation of 5th Amendment, the dept of interior, ie BLM, those property rights were removed from the Bundy's with vague promises never fulfilled. In fact, a similar case was ruled on differently than this case but the basics were the same. They removed the value of the rights by charging grazing fees and eventually limiting the ranchers to the point of not having any real rights at all. 50 ranchers went out of business because of this. Bundy fought.
3.They used these illegal rights to charge the owners for exercising rights that were already theirs. there is strong precedent against the BLM's actions in the courts.
4. They then used the endangered species act in specious ways to further hamstring Mr. Bundy. That is when he said he would pay his fees to Nevada not to the BLM.
5. I have not read about the Canadian pipeline case. Is this Keystone you're talking about? I don't like Eminent Domain either. Look how Kelo turned out. All those homes razed and people displaced for absolutely nothing. what a waste. Immoral.
rmcd, maybe you could post something on the issue you have brought up?

Um. "...put their women...on the front lines..."??!

It is not as if we are little puppets, rmcd. Had I been there, no one would have 'put me on the front lines'. I would have walked up to the front on mine own little two feet.

Thinking tactically, there have been times in the past when I felt that a pending confrontation needed to be defused and I put my fingers in my pockets (palms clearly visible) and strolled up and began chatting with the aggressive parties. It is more difficult to maintain toxic testosterone levels with a smiling, polite woman chatting amiably with you. I think that if the situation had become explicitly dangerous that everyone would have dived to protect the children, but that 'women and children' in the front lines may have contributed materially to keeping the situation cool and not letting anyone pull the trigger. You will note that in the confrontations between the Russians and the Estonians in the late 1980's, women and children were also present.

One of the realizations that my reading these lists has brought home to me is the degree to which we live in a hodgepodge of laws. Many of the local laws that have been passed would not survive contact with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, but there is no easy touchstone to use to qualify a law for existence within that structure. Per my exchange with MikeMarrota yesterday, there is apparently no functional scientific division between 'disobeying a bad law because you are a patriot' and 'disobeying a good law because you are a nutcase'...but that does not mean that we cannot all make as best a judgement on this as we are personally able.

And I do not think you will find many folks on this list who will defend eminent domain!

Jan, hands in pockets

In my opinion, your statement "If you are mad about a law try to change it" amounts to a recommendation of futilely banging one's head against a wall. I've long suspected that the laws and regulations are not affected by the people's will, and a recent study proves this true. See http://rt.com/usa/us-democracy-oligarchy... and/or http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambe...

I wonder how the militia could turn this into a push for larger reforms.

I oddly think of them the same way I thought of OWS. I don't agree with everything they're doing, but I like people getting together and petitioning the gov't to change.

I find this very interesting:

"You’ve got a bunch of people there trying to take the law into their own hands and they shouldn’t be doing that."

Aren't we a government of/by/for the people? There's a whole bunch of people that think that some government regulations aren't what's best. Instead of saying "Shut up, citizens," elected officials should be putting the law IN the hands of the people.

"And the Bureau of Land Management is not government-owned, it’s publicly owned. There’s a big difference there. I blame both sides."

If the BLM is not affiliated with the government, how in the world can they STEAL Bundy's cattle at gunpoint without resulting in countless BLM idiots going to jail? And if the BLM is PUBLICLY owned, wouldn't that make them the same as the government, which is (again) of/by/for the people? Private companies can do what they want. Public government groups have to do what the people want.

the most striking difference is a private company could not take action against another private citizen in this way. AS well, public agencies should also have to respect due process and law enforcement should be separate from those agencies. Instead, each agency has its own law enforcement and this recent use shows us how powerful. If dumpy little BLM can reek this much havoc over the public, we are doomed. I fully expect to see National Park Rangers training as snipers soon-(they probably already are!)

And why no interview with the head of the BLM.. Who IS the head of the BLM anyway? Is this another entity where they have ultimate power and no one who's EVER held accountable? Time to expose the wizard!

More and more of so -called public land is restricted or off -limits to the public, for reclamation, breeding seasons, no motorized vehicles, permits requird etc. It 's hardly public if the public can 't use it

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Well dad-rat-it, there's that pesky 2nd Amendment again. Militias are springing up all over the country. What a revolting development!

With all due respect to Sen. Imhoff, I've generally preferred: "alternate path to justice" to "taking the law in your own hands."