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Trump: Primary Three functions of government are Healthcare, Education, Security

Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 11 months ago to Politics
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This wasn't even a gotcha question. It was an open-ended solicitation for opinion. That Donald Trump thinks this is the role of government tells me all I need to know about his suitability to be President. He either doesn't understand the proper role of government, or he is just as socialist as Bernie and Hillary. Either way it tells me what my research has continued to tell me all along: Trump will not be a Constitutional President if elected.


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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Aside from the fact that it's been decided for 70 years now, it was the English's land to do with what they wanted. And why not their ancestral home? They certainly had more of a claim to it than just about anyone else...
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Absolutely, People have a right to their own thoughts, and shouldnt be saddled by political correctness. We should all be who we are, even if that means we dont like black culture, or the muslim culture. Personally I think the entitled black culture sucks, and I dont like the islam claim that infidels should be killed. And so what if this is politically correct- its what I think and I should say it. Doesnt mean I string up blacks or muslims by any means.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have a different idea of how campaign contributions should work, but the question I pose still remains: do you want to limit the office of the President to the uber-wealthy? If not, drop the campaign contributions issue. It's a fantastic talking point - until one actually looks into the matter.

    In regards to the Carson thing, that one has been covered ad nauseum. CNN reported that Carson's people in NH had left him (and it was true) to work for Cruz. Cruz' people then used that in a last-minute campaign effort. There were no lies told. Carson felt sorely done by, and Cruz did apologize to Carson. (Interesting side note: Carson said that Trump offered him a place in the cabinet in exchange for his endorsement.) Did Trump ever apologize for calling Cruz a liar? Nope. In fact, he still keeps using that line.

    In regards to the ad in Utah, it wasn't run by Cruz. He didn't sanction it. It was run by an anti-Trump PAC. If you want to harp on one political candidate being responsible for the acts of others, you're going to get hammered on the whole David Duke endorsement fiasco AND on the recent hit piece done by one of Trump's friends at the National Enquirer. Do you really want to go there?

    For a measure of who is actually bringing real solutions to the table, let's look at the last several debate performances. Trump's victories in the debates came only at the very first when he didn't have people coming after him on his record and when he was getting a 2-to-1 airtime allotment! Rubio killed Trump in the debate just before Florida. Cruz won the one before that. As the number of debate participants has dwindled, so has Trump's ability to dodge his policy problems. And did you hear him in the few interviews he did right after the Florida debate? He couldn't stop going on and on about Marco Rubio's jab and even turned it into a supposed reference about his manhood. Seriously? And now he throws a pretended fit about Fox so he doesn't have to go toe-to-toe with an experienced debater. What is he going to do if he wins the primaries and has to go up against Bernie or Hillary? You think he's going to get a pass then?
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If enough people are of my ilk, Gary Johnson will get 3-4 million votes and the next Libertarian candidate will get into the presidential debates. Then the march toward socialism and fascism could be reversed. If they listen to you, instead, then Benito Trump will be the Republican nominee and socialist Hillary will still be elected.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe the english who "owned" those holy lands should have found another place to put the jews.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why would anyone spend millions for the job? Perhaps they are power mad egomaniacs with money to burn. Who fits that description?
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I guess you will be intellectually pure and vote for someone who is exactally what you want...but who will not get elected. If enough people are of your ilk, you and all the rest of us will end up with Bernie the Commie or the wicked witch of the west. But you will have clean hands. Good for you.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 11 months ago
    No its not, you can't ever make these people happy, unfortunately, they will always just demand more.

    I'm equally insulted at the 'bully' tactics that have grown out of Black Lives Matter. Look at North Carolina, Apple refusing to do business there if they sign a law requiring people to use the bathroom and locker room that reflects their natural plumbing. What an f'ing concept, and only serves to protect the rights of others. My answer "Fine - we can pull those Apple Store occupancy permits in Raleigh, Durham, etc., we can send the Fire Marshall by at every new product release date so they can count how many people are in the stores, we can stop buying Apples for k-12 and colleges schools, and ban state employees from using iphones. BofA doesn't like it, fine, we don't need to offer direct-deposit to BofA accounts for state employees either. That bullying has gotten out of hand. People have rights to their beliefs and the culture of their communities.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Is there anything Trump could say that you couldn't rationalize? How about prison for women obtaining abortions?
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    Posted by term2 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    First of all, I want the office president to be restricted to administering a constitution that forbids any transfer of wealth from one to another. We dont have that, so the president and the congress together are dictators that can do what they want essentially. That said, I think the whole campaign contributions thing is flawed and I would like to see something that doesnt pander to the one who spends more. I dont know at this point how to do that, but sander's points are well taken I think. Cruz got a lot of wall street money as I understand it- his wife works for them....
    Cruz has done a number of underhanded things that he hasnt disavowed. First with the whole "carson has backed out, vote for Cruz" thing. Then there was the whole printing of Trump's wife pictures with the caption about "do you want this as your first lady" thing. You can say what you want that it was someone else that did it, but I say its obvious that at least Cruz and Romney knew about it (they havent disavowed it at all). Cruz hasnt said that he disapproved of using Trumps wife in that way. Its got nothing to do with Trumps qualifications. If Cruz didnt approve of it, he should have said so and publicly withdrew it. He brought in the wife and family thing. Trump's response was just to show pictures of both wives with the caption- a picture is worth 1000 words. Cruz had a hissy fit, but he DID start bringing in the wife thing. The two of them should have apologized to each other and put the issue to rest. Wives are wives, not publicly elected officials anyway.
    Now, Cruz is after Trump openly and almost everytime he speaks. Its stupid and annoying, as well as unprofessional. Its obvious Cruz is feeling the heat of losing and just wants to tear down the will of the people who support trump. I think Trump has been pretty good at talking about what he brings to the table, and Cruz should do the same.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How bad does the Republican have to be to get some people to abandon their "lesser of two evils" mantra? Apparently there seems to be no limit.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, England owned that land and ceded it to create a new State for Israel where the Jews could turn after being annihilated in both Germany (Hitler) and Eastern Europe and Russia (Stalin). Look up the UN Charter. The "Palestinians" as they call themselves never owned that land. They are a convenient proxy in the holy war between the Arabs/Muslims and Jews.

    Here's a radical idea: why don't the other Muslim nations take in all these refugees - including the original "Palestinians" who were displaced? It's a very simple solution to the problem.

    The real answer is that both Islam and Jewry consider the city of Jerusalem to be theirs by divine right. The Jews believe the Temple Mount to be the only site acceptable on which to rebuild the Temple originally commissioned by David and built by Solomon. Islam believes the Dome of the Rock (the Mosque currently occupying the Temple Mount) was the site where Mohammed received a vision from Allah and thus became a holy site similar - but not quite as holy - to Mecca or Medina.

    The issue is never going to be resolved until one of those two religions is utterly wiped off the face of the Earth. The Muslims have already tried three times and gotten their tails whupped, but when you have a numerical superiority of more than 1000 to one, there is only so much military superiority can do for you...
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 11 months ago
    Education is mentioned in the Constitution he means brain washing.

    Health care ...mmmmm didn't find that in their either

    When he added the last point was he thinking protective echelon?


    He means preparation for senicide or killing off the elderly.

    On the other hand it could be
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not a lot different from the unwashed hordes right here complaining about the 1% rich people. What can you say really to an envious mob...
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You can choose to believe what you wish. I merely point out that to this point, you have nothing but your own beliefs that Trump will win to support you.

    If you want to go back on the campaign contributions thing, again, I will ask: Do you want to restrict the office of the President to the ultra-wealthy? Cruz' campaign is based on grass-roots donations - not the Republican Party. They backed Jeb Bush and then Marco Rubio.

    Who STARTED the negative campaigning? That would be TRUMP! Cruz for the first several debates and in speeches said that he wasn't going to stoop to attacking other Republican candidates. Trump started the whole thing with his "lyin' Ted" mantra after he got beat in Iowa and threw a hissy-fit. It wasn't Cruz who went after Trump's wife, but Trump didn't bother checking that before he went after Cruz' wife. It isn't Cruz who seemingly in every interview has to disparage his opponent. Trump started throwing it and now you want to throw a fit if some splatters on him? Please. Trump has no claim whatsoever on the high road.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, and the reason I'm a little charitable on the Israeli side is the fact that they HAVE tried, they built houses for the arabs, gave them land back, resettled their own people away from arab settlements... the place was a desert, no one knocked down anything to build Israel. All they have gotten for working through the peace process was rockets lobbed at them 24x7.

    This is about the Palestinians being jealous of Israeli prosperity, nothing more. Short of Israel giving them more money for doing nothing than they already do, there is only so much. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it. If the Palestinians want to hang out on street corners all day instead of building an economy for themselves, its a very difficult problem to resolve, and it needs to start from within.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    we can stop enabling bad behavior I suppose. If I lived next to a neighbor who hated me, I would try to come to some reconciliation moving forward. Israelis have a lot to offer a bankrupt arab culture.
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  • Posted by chad 9 years, 11 months ago
    The promises made by candidates of any 'party' subscribe to the emotions and ideals of those party members to get elected without thinking of how to or even if they want to fulfill those promises. Once elected the country continues on the same path to socialism, in fact the USA has moved to a communist democracy with the advent of many of its socialist programs and the removal of many constitutional rights under 'The Patriot Act' in the name of security. The political machinations are nothing more than a magic act with distraction providing the entertainment while the public is fleeced. Taxes under the Regan administration did not go down as the majority believes. Taxes were reduced on individuals and increased at a rate on corporations that eclipsed the tax decrease. Corporate taxes are passed on to the public through higher prices and the people paid the higher price (tax). America functions on fiat currency which is nothing but debt, few people are taught the principle of being mortgage free for almost any purchase so with extra money the populace borrowed more to spend more and drove the economy into what seemed like success until it finally ended in the 'Great Recession'. There are no candidates offering liberty, a constitutional republic or a free market and if there were and the individual were voted into office it would have no effect, congress and the rest of the socialist nation will not tolerate being free.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 11 months ago
    Trump is a New Yorker. When you hear him spout such nonsense, what you are hearing is the New York attitude which one who was raised there was subjected to from birth. While he can espouse certain points that he thinks are "republican" at heart, he is a New York liberal.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The problem with Israel is that the english carved out a section of arab territory and declared it Israel, causing immediate hostility among the arabs who lived there and a declaration of war against Israel that has lasted over 60 years. The jews basically were slated for extermination by the Nazis, and then after the war no one in europe wanted them (interesting that they couldnt even go back to their homes). I wonder why the intense hostility to the jews (another subject completely tho). As I understand it, they had no where to go as refugees and started piling into the middle east. The english stepped in and carved out Israel, which was probably not a good idea. And now, we enable Israel to claim its their territory. They should make peace with their neighbors and we need to stop enabling this ridiculous conflict.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wonder where all that money went? It didnt come to me I can guarantee you. I make less than I did then, with inflation accounted for, and I get nothing for savings now. I think it went to Obama's supporters who gave millions to him to get elected. Same as what Hillary is after. No one spends $200 million to get a $400k salary for 4 years !!!!!
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wish I were a cartoon artist. I can see Hillary asking her Goldman contributors "what do you want me to do? They reply- "get elected so you can do our bidding". Then she asks her handlers "what do I do to get elected?" They reply 'tell the voters whatever will get them to cast votes for you since you wont have to carry through on any of the promises once elected"
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