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Real Americans Are Ready To Snap

Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 1 month ago to Government
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"Despite popular belief, every culture of every nation draws a line in the sand against government tyranny. The problem is, many draw this line so close to total defeat that it rarely matters....
I believe the same feeling hangs in the air of modern America for REAL Americans, and by “real”, I mean those who actually support and defend the constitutional values and principles that lay at the foundation of our society. We sense that something is coming; a great change, or an unstoppable reckoning."


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  • Posted by SpiritMatter 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    There exists a fascist Big Gov/ Big Biz elite quietly living at the top of the wealth/power pyramid with the help of many Dem and Repub administrations. They secured the deep pocket resources of the upper/middle/lower working classes in 1913 by way of the Fed and the income tax. They hide like cockroaches and let the Dem and Repub puppets bathe in the lap dog media lime light. They keep our focus off of them by distracting us with guilt from unjust laws, with the struggle to survive with wages stripped by unjust compensation and taxes, with disagreements among ourselves that are not the real source of our repression and suffering. They thrive under government (communist), gov/biz complex (fascist), or business (monopolistic capitalism) run societies. Without checks and balances, all humans will abuse that power. One of the primary jobs of government is to defend our equal rights and be a check against any human or group of humans who try to implement superior rights for themselves or a special interest group. Instead the government is infringing on our rights and granting various special interest groups such as conservative religions a superior say in the laws of the land. We must restore our equal rights through a restoration of the checks and balances which are part of the written and unwritten (privileges not granted the government in the constitution are retained by each individual, collectively known as, the people) intentions of the Founding Fathers and our Creator who is not a respecter of persons unlike man.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    5+ parties mean 5+ succinct political/social ideologies to chose from and a lower likelihood that they will all work in unison to screw the American people. Even Soros can't consistently throw money into protracted elections.

    ALSO, we need a non of these option on every ballot for every office. The parties will be less likely the resurrect their decrepit standard bearers if they'd have to repeat (and sink ridiculous money into) a process only to lose to "none of these" several times.

    You can't limit campaign contribution or spending without limiting free speech. O had many small un-reportable donations.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Pretty sure that parties are not the whole answer, but I certainly agree with the sentiment. As election process tsar (taking a lot of liberty here, pun intended) I would place a very low cap on election campaign spending in the interest of getting many more non-professionals to run (and to increase the chance some would win.) I would discourage career politicians by reducing campaign spending limits much more on re-election campaigns. Assuming we don't want elections being bought I would limit campaign contributions to very small donations by individuals only (and unspent monies allocated to provide firearms to all sane adults in the district. Hey, I am the tsar!) The entire election process should be re-evaluated by citizens at the local level and proposals made for replacement legislation.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I admire your patience, but I think that approach is not nearly enough for the situation. I am glad to hear there is another benefit to you for the time you spend in this effort.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    You may be correct. It may be naive of me to believe that the majority of Americans still believe in truth and freedom. I hope not, as that truly will be a dark age that leads to a true scenario such as that depicted in "Atlas Shrugged". The question will then be who will rise up to lead America out of the ashes again?
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 1 month ago
    Great change could happen peacefully and legally through voting and lobbying organizations. I really hope we don't have some violent reckoning.
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  • Posted by redoty09 10 years, 1 month ago
    Any congressman or woman, the president and members of the supreme court should be impeached or kicked out of office if they do not follow and uphold the Constitution of The United States and The Bill of Rights!!
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  • Posted by wiggys 10 years, 1 month ago
    it is my belief that americans employed employed by the government will take up arms against other citizens of the country. there are to many warriors from previous wars starting with korea who have realized that there was no reason to be involved there and saw to many of their friends lose their lives for no good reason other than some useless politicians need. I believe they will side with the citizens. that is what we saw with the situation in Nevada.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    This country needs no less than 5 parties and run off elections throughout when a clear consensus cannot be reached. In a country such as ours just having two parties is a recipe for corruption.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    My hope is people bounce back and forth between Democrat and Republican, and someone with moderate libertarian leanings either gets one of the nominations or runs as a third party candidate. It would be a tough sell b/c the parties will always have a laundry list of problems to solve (foreign dictators, elderly people who can't afford meds, keeping people in jail longer, people want help paying their mortgage or for fuel), and the libertarian has to be a one-trick pony answering every issue with a call for reducing those programs but giving people back their tax money.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I never know when they vote my way if they would have voted despite citizen lobbying and also if they maybe went to their party leadership and got permission to vote their constituency as long as the leadership had worked out they would not prevail.

    I think lobbying to allow HSAs to continue under PPACA is why we still have HSAs today.

    That's really bad in the case where they blatantly break their promises.

    My worst negative experience is when we donated from someone and as a hail mary he bought some mud-slinging adds just after the fundraiser.

    Part of the reason for going to political fundraisers is to say hi to various people I might otherwise not touch base with. Lobbying is a secondary benefit. I reject the whole left/right struggle that politicians use to get elected, so I prefer non-partisan humanitarian events to political ones.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that you are much mistaken about the American people and their stand for the Constitution. The 47 Million on welfare think of the Constitution as their right for welfare. Of the remainder, half have been brought up with this huge guilt trip that tells them to appease the moochers with whatever they can steal from the producers. And a great many of the remainder care more about their favorite sports team than anything else. Like someone said elsewhere, every century has it's dark age.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Disagree with regards to Obama. We have never had a president who holds the Constitution in such contempt as this one, nor one so aided by a complicit Senate and media.

    To me, that is where change needs to start: the media. When the truth gets exposed to the American people, they generally stand for Constitutional principles.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The rank and file of the Tea Party may be exactly as you say, but imo the power is not.
    (There are also good people who are GOP and Dems, but they have no power.)
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    What results can you report?
    What I see are lying politicians only interested in their own power doing nothing they promise to get elected, and voting in favor of more dictatorial laws and regulations, and ignoring their oaths to defend the constitution. They have been doing the same things for all of my adult life. I wouldn't even consider giving them any of my production as a bribe; they already steal at gunpoint 99% more than they are worth. One example: People I know have worked to get one senator elected based on specific promises to accomplish a certain thing once elected. Afterward the senator said "I looked into that and it's fine as it is." No further discussion or explanation. What was the issue? The Federal Reserve Bank.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Have to disagree. Many in the T.P. are as disgusted with the Republican Party as many of us are. True, there are some repubs in the T.P. but its very existence came about as a rebellion against the G.O.P.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't see how you can go to fundraisers without providing the funds. Of course the staff has their own advancement agenda. So does the representative.

    If their mail is running heavily against something and/or contributors are calling mostly on one side and saying they're following the vote, they won't go against the mail and contributors.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    There was a time when I also talked to politicians with whom I agreed on most things at fundraisers, but freedomforall is right, the bribes, er, contributions, is what politicians are all about. That is one of many reasons I am past my tipping point.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Unless you are one providing funds at the fundraiser you are just wasting time. The staff that you talk to have their own advancement agenda, and won't pass along your concerns unless they are (1)accompanied by bribes, er, contributions, or (2) allied with big money interests. They will promise to do everything possible, but the fact is that nothing is possible,
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe lobbying is the wrong word. i call it lobbying when I talk to a politician and staff at a fundraiser, contact them when an important vote comes up, and let them know I took note of their vote. I don't do it as much recently. So many people looking to maintain a specific program do it. It's important that people who just want contain the size and intrusiveness of gov't do it.
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