More Common Core idiocy

Posted by Robbie53024 12 years, 2 months ago to News
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 12 years, 2 months ago
    Yeah! Go mom for giving to cop some forms, but a huge raspberry to the Mark Twain school's principal! (Mark Twain must be rolling in his grave to have his name on such a school).

    This is what I will expect if I keep pushing back on the CC bull$hit agenda. Can't wait..... }-)
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  • Posted by exindigo 12 years, 2 months ago
    I went to the Common Core website and searched for materials used in support of common core standards. On the surface, the standards seem OK. However, we really need to see what supporting materials are going to be used by teachers. Already the collective consciousness is apparent when the opening statement of CC reads that parents, educators and students MUST. . . That is ominous in itself.

    However a random reading at the third grade level gave the following:

    Ask and answer questions to demonstrate understanding of a text, referring explicitly to the text as the basis for the answers.

    exindigo comment: All this is fine and quite traditional. It will depend on the text used because the text can be propaganda.

    CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.RL.3.2
    Recount stories, including fables, folktales, and myths from diverse cultures; determine the central message, lesson, or moral and explain how it is conveyed through key details in the text.

    exindigo comment: This also is pretty traditional. However, it means adopting a "meaning" in stories and tales. It is unclear what stories will be selected and when elements appear in stories that are in contradiction to religious or other systems of knowledge.

    CCSS.ELA-LITERACY.RL.3.3
    Describe characters in a story (e.g., their traits, motivations, or feelings) and explain how their actions contribute to the sequence of events

    exindigo Comment: The same as the other comments. All this would depend on the source materials. If we take current history books and even some English language books, we see a lot of anti-American (As a system.) trends. With CC, this could become institutionalized in the same way that alternative history has become institutionalized in our educational system.

    I wouldn't focus on the idea of Core Standards but on the materials used to support these standards.

    Remember New Math? What a colossal failure was that? I went to a Southern California teacher's conference some years back and was surprised to hear the state head of CA education state: ". . .Schools are not primarily places of education but of social experiment."

    Many teachers found this intolerable. Other, younger, teachers found the idea exciting. Younger teachers are more inclined to propagandize and use specifically slanted materials to influence students.
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    • Posted by 12 years, 2 months ago
      And still, those who have compared these standards to other advanced nations see a two grade level LOWER standard - in other words the same item shows up two grade levels earlier than in CC standards for other advanced nations.

      That said, you are correct - the standards are one thing, it is really the exemplar material that is being used in the curriculum. To whit, proportions are proper things to teach in math. Using a scenario about the number of slaves owned by Thomas Jefferson as a proportion of the overall number of people on the Jefferson farm is intentionally being used to subvert the moral standing of Jefferson (my opinion) so as to ultimately subvert the moral standing of the Constitution (again, my opinion).
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  • Posted by NealS 12 years, 2 months ago
    Wow, does anyone notice any similarity to what they are trying to do with Common Core as compared to Gun Control, compared to Unionization, to Free Speech, Politics, to our Constitution? How long are we going to put up with it? What do we need to do?
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    • Posted by 12 years, 2 months ago
      This is intentional. Overwhelm the populace with so much that they cannot fight it or even comprehend it all. The majority don't have the drive or capability to think for themselves, and with so much coming at them, they just tune it all out and go watch their "Housewives of ..." or whatever sports is currently on TV.
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  • Posted by redoty09 12 years, 2 months ago
    Public school systems all over the country are trash. Last I knew about 15 tears ago the federal government sends $6000 per student to schools for each student enrolled in their school. While I sent mine to a private school for $2800 and got a better education than a public school. Plus kids are made to behave, no bullying allowed, dress codes. That is why there should vouchers so the federal government sends that money to the school of the parent’s choice.

    Compare the schools in America to some of the schools in other countries. My sister has had several foreign exchange students over the past several years. Every one of them could speak at least five languages. A girl she had about eight years ago from Italy was outstanding. She spoke five languages, English, French, German, Spanish and of course Italian. The first day of school here in the United States in her first hour or home room class, the teacher discussed punishments for unacceptable behavior. Afterwards he gave the class a quiz on what he had told them. She said she had to go and admit to him that she did not pay attention to what he said, because in Italy we would never think of acting that way. She said in Italy the teachers change classrooms, not the students and when the teacher walks into the classroom all of the students stand up out of respect.
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