The immigration debate was start by a white supremacist because his math show minorities will outnumber white people and new immigrants voted democrat, therefore we need to keep them out. Read this from National review 1997 “electing a New People”. https://heartland.org/sites/all/modules/...

“So let anyone in regardless of their place of birth? Why have a border?”
YES! A border does not enter into the equation because a border does not mean restricting one right to migration or preventing a native born from hiring immigrant workers. Individuals have the right to trade and migration. Our individual rights are not based on race, sex or national origin.

I agree. But thats not how things are set up, we do pay taxes whether we like it or not and the fed gov is dishing away billions to foreign countries while being trillions in debt. Because of this reality I'd rather invest in us rather than them. At least investing in our children we have some degree of return.

I think your tax dollars are not being invested in American youth quite the way you'd like, these days. Actually your tax dollars are used to further the acceptance of illegal immigration via public schools... removing American flag shirts on cinco de mayo and stuff like that... fear of guns too...and much much more.. :(

Like I said, what a shame. We visit FL every so often to look in on my Dad and his wife, and like it. Been talking about moving there for a while, maybe not if the prog plague continues.

Not so much enraged as deeply irritated that folks like yourself can buy into anti-American leftist rhetoric to the point that you can’t process actual historical facts. Then you present the fabricated propaganda you’ve swallowed whole as if it is a fact. Your post I am responding to is high on rhetoric but low on fact and is also a “shotgun” approach to my post. That is, if you can spew a bunch of rhetorical pellets of drivel maybe you’ll get lucky and one or more shot will find the target. Amusingly, none of the pellets in your shotgun shell have anything to do with or supports your proposition that the US is somehow exploitive or oppressive. You also don’t address the contradictory notion of why anyone would want to emigrate, legally or illegally, to such an oppressive and exploitive country. Whatever. If that’s the style you’ve been programmed to use, I’ll deal with it one pellet at a time, if I have time. For now I’ll offer you this:

Pellet 1) Unlike you, I do believe Britain and the US are the best examples of civilized history. Starting from the Magna Carta on up through the Declaration of Independence and beyond where individual liberty (economic and political) have come to hold sway most of the time for most of the people and has resulted in the greatest advancements and living conditions in the history of mankind. Any nation that accepts those tenets will prosper. Any nation that rejects those tenets, including contemporary Britain and the US, will falter. This holds true for individuals as well, but that’s another subject. You may have a point regarding brain and brawn, though, but not the way you think. That is, as America becomes more socialist it will lose its brain, but the brawn created while the nation was more free will still remain (for a while). That loss would be a sad state of affairs because it took a great deal of effort and growing pains since 1776 to create the American civilization we are blessed with today.

Pellet 2) You say Germany is a thriving economy. Yes it is. I agree, for now. If the US was as oppressive and exploitive as you would have us believe, Germany (or part of it) would be flying the Stars and Stripes as its national flag. It would not be an autonomous nation. Neither would Japan or South Korea. President Reagan’s “Mr. Gorbachov, tear down this wall” was hardly a statement made by an oppressive American. Modern, free, and robust Germany wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for US generosity and non-imperialism. Neither would modern, free, and robust Japan as well as a lot of other places on the planet.

Pellet 3) You mention China as an industrially powerful nation. Yes, it is, but probably not for the reason you think. You see, I’ve had the opportunity, as an independent contractor, to live and work there. Multiple times in multiple cities in multiple manufacturing facilities. China is becoming more powerful industrially because the Chinese have been rejecting all that Marxist/Maoist nonsense and have been adopting good old made in USA Capitalist enterprise. Capitalism is alive and well in modern China (and so is the mini-skirt) and the Chinese people are loving it. Yes, China is still a top down totalitarian government, but the leadership knows a good thing when they see it and are in no hurry to screw it up. The people will put the leaderships’ collective heads on a pole if they do screw it up. [Side note: I was sitting at an outside cafe in Beijing near Tiananmen Square enjoying a great mug of beer (big breweries were built by the Germans and the beer is freakin’ good). When we mentioned the big picture of Mao to some of the folks we were with, I was told the Mao years were so bad that they want to distance themselves from him, but can’t take down that picture because when they tried do so in the past, all the local businesses squawked because it was a huge tourist attraction. Ha, even Mao’s image now serves as a capitalist enterprise advertisement, LOL! Sitting there, I also bought a Mao watch from a street vendor for about four bucks. It had his arm waving to the tick-tock. It was so hilarious a bunch of us bought them for mementos. Hey, everybody needs a waving Mao watch, LOL!]

Pellet 4) “Successful” socialist countries like Sweden and Finland. They have been “successful”, for the most part, because they are a homogeneous people with a strong work ethic needed to pull this charade off. It shouldn’t be hard to predict it isn’t going to last. As the socialist policies breed out the “work ethic” gene from the national DNA and the producers wan as the the looters multiply, there will be a comeuppance. Margaret Thatcher hit the nail on the head when she said socialism lasts until it runs out of other peoples money. I like to say “Socialist policies can be made to appear to work as long as there is a strong capitalist base to support them”. Socialist policies can be held in place by bayonets, too (a la Stalin et al), but I wouldn’t call that “working”. Countries like Sweden, Finland, and even the US remain successful because they haven’t completely bled out and destroyed the capitalist base. China is succeeding because it is feeding vitamins to its capitalist base and paring back the socialist nonsense.

Pellet 5) Your first paragraph is pretty much disjointed nonsensical pronouncements attempting to disparage the American free market system (correct me if I’m wrong on guessing this). I assume the “six years ago” is in reference to the housing and real estate crash, which was created by government interference in the mortgage market. It’s amazing what havoc a handful of leftist politicians can create in the name of “social justice” when they are allowed or even encouraged to get away with it. Free stuff is very expensive, especially free money. This is a complex and lengthy subject that can’t be fully covered here. Maybe you should rewrite that paragraph and use it to start another thread and open it for discussion. This thread has been hijacked enough, don’t you think?

Jiminy crickets!!...a typical liberal reply if I ever heard one...attack the messenger rather than attempt to refute the argument. I assumed the usage of the term "My house" would be self evident as a figure of speech. Especially considering I used quotation marks to highlight it. Oh and by the way6, you are darn right there is a lot of energy coming off the post, we are collectively being robbed every day by these illegals, many of our politicians and liberal apologists like you. Just because you use a politician to steal money, does not stop it from being theft.

As a person living in a border state I can tell you that his "energy" on the subject is not creating a self-fulfilling reality. Like it or not THEY, the illegals, are here, few have any desire to assimilate into American culture and too many have no problem with breaking laws, milking the system, or even hurting people. Odelia, I agree the boundaries are becoming more an more of an illusion that's to this one world mindset prevalent today. We do not need to "blame mexico" because the problem is Mexico (like it or not). I can provide amble evidence of this or you can search on my name to find my commentary. As for the one world government - no borders being acceptable - try reading my books to see the Achilles heels that you may not have considered.

Reality is that bad along the border and Mexico and their people in the US are violating law and hurting Americans in a variety of ways regardless of whether you see it (I live it).