Mississippi Governor Signs 'Right to Discriminate' Bill Into Law

Posted by Maphesdus 11 years, 3 months ago to Legislation
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*sigh*

Looks like we're going to have an extended battle all the way to the Supreme Court. Oh well, I guess that's what it takes to preserve human rights in some states.


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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    None of this has anything to do with discrimination, but with the right of liberty. I have the right to choose with whom I associate (it's in the first amendment in case folks need a pointer) or conversely, not associate. Only protected classes have an argument against such.

    "implicit in the right to engage in activities protected by the First Amendment" is "a corresponding right to associate with others in pursuit of a wide variety of political, social, economic, educational, religious, and cultural ends." In Roberts the Court held that associations may not exclude people for reasons unrelated to the group's expression, such as gender (a protected class).

    However, in Hurley v. Irish-American Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Group of Boston (1995), the Court ruled that a group may exclude people from membership if their presence would affect the group's ability to advocate a particular point of view. Likewise, in Boy Scouts of America v. Dale (2000), the Court ruled that a New Jersey law, which forced the Boy Scouts of America to admit an openly gay member, to be an unconstitutional abridgment of the Boy Scouts' right to free association.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    p.s. I have nothing against the LGBT, black, hispanic, asian, indian, native american or any other group -- it's just the principle!
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    1) Only for a protected class.
    2) Only if you don't believe that the constitution says what it actually says.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    M v M was wrongly decided. Like I said, SCOTUS has often been wrong. There's nothing in the constitution that gave them that power. They created it out of thin air.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    hey, y'all -- if I had a business (well, I do) and was forced to serve a customer (say, a child rapist) whom I did not want to serve, I'd shut down. that proves that it's the business person's decision.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Where do you get that the business owner would use the courts? It says that the business owner gets to decide whom they do business with (except for protected classes). They don't do anything except say, "no thank you" to the potential client. If anyone would try to use force, it would have to be the said client.
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  • Posted by g4lt 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How does a law stating that a business may use the court system to enforce discriminatory practices have anything at all to do with "The gov't would only be using force in this situation to make a business serve a customer that they chose not to. "? Do the actual facts at hand have anything at all to do with your rhetoric?
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  • Posted by NealS 11 years, 3 months ago
    I still want to know, "What Happened in Benghazi?" Whether it be demonstrators attacking or a terrorist attack, I could care less. We all know how politicians re-label things to their advantage. I want to know who ordered a non-response to the attack and why. We know the attack was real, why didn't we respond? After Benghazi is settled we can go to the LGBT issue or some other diversion from the big issues. Until Benghazi is settled we need to focus on the important things, like supporting those we put in harms way to defend our freedoms. LGBT right now is just something new to distract us from other important unfinished business. Of course I only speak as an old combat vet from Vietnam, so you know I'm going to be taking a dirt nap in a few years. I know how our people and our government watch your back.
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  • Posted by $ iamfrankblanco 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They interpret the Constitution, "the law of the land". It is their job to interpret what the law is. Marbury v. Madison.
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  • Posted by $ iamfrankblanco 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Federal law barring state-sponsored discrimination would supercede state law allowing it. The Supremacy Clause.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Due process is only a right owed you by the federal government. Not a private business.
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  • Posted by $ iamfrankblanco 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A whole slew of precedent from the Supreme Court. State Action, which in this case would deny citizens their due process rights gauranteed by the 14th amendment, would invalidate any law that allows for state-sponsored discrimination. If the state didn't get involved, there would be no problem.
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  • Posted by $ iamfrankblanco 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Typically, SCOTUS has stated that state laws are only held to be constitutional as long as they meet the purpose of furthering a legitimate state interest. Namely to protect the health, morals, and welfare of its citizenry. There are distinctions of course between citizens and non-citizens, but the line is *mostly* the same.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Where do those things happen as a consequence of law? They might do so to serve more customers, but I haven't seen that they have been legally required to do so - it might be true, but I am not aware of it.

    However, on the other side of the issue, there are still remnants of the "blue laws" that restrict a business from certain practices to serve their customers - no liquor sales on certain days, or certain hours, cannot sell raw milk, etc.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How do you figure? All this does is make explicit that a business does not have to serve all potential customers.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Frank: Where do you get that states are limited as you say? They are constructed by state constitutions or similar organizing document.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You've got it wrong. The gov't would only be using force in this situation to make a business serve a customer that they chose not to. This law does not use force against the potential customers.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 11 years, 3 months ago
    I love the way the article refers to The Family Research Council as ..."an anti-LGBT hate group". Don’t you love it when liberals are so intellectually consistent with their other pronouncements? Are not we always hearing them piss and moan about "Hate Speech" and here they are at it again. I noticed at the bottom of the webpage a link to an article about Mozilla’s CEO getting bounced out of his job for merely sending a $1,000 donation to to a campaign to ban gay marriage in California, http://abcnews.go.com/Business/mozilla-c...
    Don’t we always hear them talking about free speech….not if it is the wrong sort of “Speech”!!!
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  • Posted by Boothby171 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Really? A Kosher deli forced to sell pork by the federal government? Links & proof, please.

    I think all the federal government is asking is that if your store is selling Nazi flags and KKK robes, that you must be willing sell them to everyone, including blacks and Jews. Simple enough, eh?
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  • Posted by Cincinnati_Joe 11 years, 3 months ago
    Just So Sad that government is getting in the middle of EVERYTHING and screwing it up. Even creeks and ponds on private property are now to be under government control. And God forbid, you should want to collect rainwater in a barrel!! What the hell is wrong with this country?
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