Concious1978, it looked like you were going down the path I described above, which has caused me to roll eyes in so many other Internet discussions. Perhaps I should have more carefully worded my statement like "... rationality of Islamophobia presumably...". You assured that you were not doing what it looked like. Good enough for me. clink Tips cold Guinness to you for St. Patty's Day!

Right you are.
Islam is a religion in the form of a political system. Or it is a political system in the form of a religion. Either way, it is the successful melding of the mystic and the Hun. A truly fearful combination. To date, no movie monster compares with this dreadful creation that we have Mr. Mohammed to thank for.

PHOBIA - A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.

ISLAMOPHOBIA - hatred or fear of Muslims or of their politics or culture.

Islam demands jihad, eternal warfare until everyone in the world is converted, conquered or dead. Over 250 millions were killed in the 1400 years of “peaceful” Islam. Islam imposes a brutal legal system - shari’ah. It’s “perfect man” was a plagiarist, pedophile, kidnapper, rapist, murderer, and warlord, who is to be copied as the “ideal.” Blood thirsty jihad and peaceful spirituality are simultaneously embraced. No other religious ideology teaches the inferiority of women, the killing and hatred of all infidels, the execution of homosexuals, the silencing of free speech, forced amputations, the stoning of rape victims, genital mutilation, and the violent overthrow of all non-Islamic governments and civilizations.

If you aren’t afraid of Islam or hate its evil nature, you are irrational, abnormal, or a candidate to be converted. Because Islam is a contradiction, expressing sublime morality on one hand (Mecca period) and bloodthirsty pillage, conquest, slavery, pedophilia and rape on the other (Medina period). All manner of evil and predation is condoned as long as the victim is Kafir (infidel), or it advances “pure” Islam, or mimics their Prophet, the “Perfect Ideal.”

One can only conclude that Islam is not a religion, but is a predatory system. Islam is destructive to any civilization that is based on the Law of Love and that is opposed to the Law of the Jungle. The fact that Islam is entirely combative, contradictory and intolerant toward all non-Islamic societies makes it clear. Non-Muslims must come to grips of what Islam actually is, and close down all Mosques, Muslim schools and deport them all.

Or “surrender.”
There is no “peaceful co-existence” with endless jihad.

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You've definitely have appoint.

I think that's a whole 'nother topic.

Ok. I'm ok with starting there, and then taking all the power from the communist pope next. Interesting argument whether the Vatican or individual evangelical nuts are the next more violent wastes of time.

I'm not quibbling about purity, Mac. :-) You were tilting at windmills, and I happened to be in the way. Your expressed disagreement, in response to my comment, illustrates the problem with a "generalized lumping" of individuals into a poorly defined group.

It would suck, if you incorrectly fell within someone else's "margin of error". ;-)

So, why not just call him Joshua? I guess the writers figure that a different sort of man should have a different sort of name. Pretty sure thing that Joseph and Mary didn't speak Greek.

Whew!
Thank you.
I'm beginning to get Objectophobic with so many inferring that I'm prejudiced against Muslims.

But they don't commit atrocities.
Yet.

Big whoop, Conscious. My second last sentence wasn't "pure" enough for you. So what. The gist of what I'm saying is the same. Very often on discussions where the topic is radical Islam there are those who immediately start interjecting "what about the Crusades", "what about the Inquisition", "what about the IRA", "what about Timothy McVeigh", etc, etc, etc in attempts to hijack the thread. It looked VERY much you were going there. You're telling us you are not, well, OK then.

I thought this was Herb7734's cookie jar. :-)

attitude, attitude Herb .... That 10% (a randomn figure not proven anywhere) are a radical terrorist element and not representative of the Islamic religion as a whole (which is what you attempted to do)

no causes, just honesty ... I am personally a white, christian male with a daughter who converted to Judaism and has traveled to Egypt.

Are you adept in English?
I specified the 10% or radical Muslims who use their religion as an excuse to perpetrate atrocity. Words have meanings sans innuendo.

Oh, gimme a break, John.
All discrimination is not bad. I discriminate against murderers and rapists. Against anyone using coercion. Which, by the way describes radical Muslims.
Since it is not clear who is or is not a radical I'll remain cautious. If I see a spider and I don't know whether it is venomous, I won't take chances trying to find out. Also, If I dwell in a place where there's lots of spiders, I'll be sure to carry an anti venom kit. Mine's by Drs. Smith & Weston.

Trump comes out with what people think are outlandish and stupid comments, but it seems some of what he says isnt so bad when you really think about it.

I agree. It will take a while to sort it out, but why take chances. It only takes one or two to cause a catastrophe.

If there is a bigger problem, Islam needs to be dealt with first.